Upzoned

A surge of homes may flood the market as baby boomers downsize, potentially outstripping demand by a million units. The hosts delve into the implications of demographic shifts on housing stability and the risks of an oversimplified construction mantra. They discuss the need for diverse housing solutions that cater to various lifestyles, while exploring financial incentives that hinder adaptive housing. Interestingly, they even touch upon NASA's findings on ancient life on Mars, weaving together an engaging narrative about housing and beyond.

For years, investors and speculators shaped Canada's housing market. But now, people who actually live in those homes are beginning to have more influence. Today, Abby is joined by Norm Van Eeden Petersman, Strong Towns' director of membership and a Canadian, to discuss how this shift happened, how it'll affect Canada's housing market, and the implications for the rest of North America. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES “End-users, rather than investors, expected to drive Vancouver housing market higher” by Kerry Gold, The Globe and Mail (September 2025).‍ Abby Newsham (X/Twitter).‍ Norm Van Eeden Petersman (LinkedIn)‍ Theme Music by Kemet the Phantom.   This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Click here to learn more about membership.

Several high-profile members of the government have been accused of committing mortgage fraud recently, including Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton and Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook. Today, Chuck and Abby explore how mortgage fraud distorts the housing market, why it happens so frequently — and why no one in the financial system is interested in stopping it. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES “Ken Paxton Claimed Three Houses as His Primary Residence, Records Show” by Pooja Salhotra, The New York Times (July 2025). “Mortgage-Fraud Accusations Are Trump’s New Political Weapon” by Gina Heeb and Brian Schwartz, The Wall Street Journal (August 2025). Chuck Marohn (Substack) Abby Newsham (X/Twitter). Theme Music by Kemet the Phantom.   This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Click here to learn more about membership.

In this insightful discussion, John Pattison, a community builder with Strong Towns, shares his expertise on the innovative concept of sponge cities. He explores how these urban designs, inspired by nature, aim to tackle flooding and enhance stormwater management. The conversation dives into the balance between ambitious infrastructure and gradual improvements. Pattison highlights real-world examples, like Copenhagen, showcasing how integrating green space can lead to resilient communities. This blend of nature and urban planning is positioned as a promising solution for future cities.

Data centers power everything from cloud computing to artificial intelligence, and they use a massive amount of electricity, sometimes even rivaling major cities. Watchdogs claim that tech companies aren’t absorbing the costs of this electricity use, causing rate payers’ electricity bills to spike as they’re forced to subsidize these data centers. Today, Edward and Abby discuss the far-reaching implications of this kind of land use. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES “As electric bills rise, evidence mounts that data centers share blame. States feel pressure to act.” by Marc Levy, AP News (August 2025). Want to bring the conversation to your community? Book Edward as a speaker. Abby Newsham (X/Twitter). Theme Music by Kemet the Phantom.   This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Click here to learn more about membership.

Join Katy Claggett, a small-scale developer and commercial real estate appraiser from Kansas City, as she dives into Colorado's looming senior housing crisis. With one in five residents soon to be over 65, Katy discusses the urgent need for adaptable living spaces. Learn how seniors are trapped in oversized homes and the impact on younger families. Discover innovative solutions like co-op housing and shared living arrangements, and hear about the importance of community-focused advocacy to reshape the housing market for all ages.

Edward Erfurt, chief technical advisor at Strong Towns, dives into the slow recovery process in Los Angeles post-wildfires. He discusses the complexities of rebuilding in fire-prone areas, particularly the impact of suspended environmental regulations. Erfurt highlights the political and bureaucratic hurdles that homeowners face in securing permits. He also calls for a reevaluation of laws like CEQA to better balance environmental needs with urgent community demands during crises. Additionally, he draws parallels between human behavior and rat studies to shed light on recovery challenges.

In this lively conversation, Edward Erfurt, Chief Technical Advisor at Strong Towns, discusses the hefty $50,000 fee a milk facility faces for road use in Lincoln County, South Dakota. He and Abby Newsham explore the delicate balance between infrastructure costs and rural municipal budgets. They dive into the complexities of zoning laws and the need for better collaboration between businesses and communities. Edward also advocates for improved funding strategies to ensure sustainable road management while enhancing community engagement in the development process.

Rachel Leonardo, a video producer at Strong Towns with a keen eye for architecture, joins the discussion on the changing landscape of the American Sunbelt. They explore how rigid zoning and suburban sprawl are leading to rising housing costs and stagnation. Rachel advocates for innovative solutions that prioritize community resilience. The conversation also touches on the need for adaptable living arrangements and local initiatives to enhance urban vitality, blending creativity with practicality in urban design.

Today, Abby is joined by Bernice Radle, a small-scale developer and historic building preservationist from Buffalo, New York. They cover two developing stories: First, a new bill was proposed that would give the Buffalo housing court more power to sell or repair buildings taken from absentee or negligent landlords. Second, the Historic Preservation Fund is currently at risk. Bernice and Abby discuss how these changes could affect small-scale developers and historic preservationists. Bernice also explores how these two fields are closely linked and should work together to save urban spaces. ADDITIONAL SHOW NOTES “Proposed bill would give Buffalo housing court greater authority over derelict properties” by Nate Benson, WGRZ (May 2025). “Preservation Under Threat: A Critical Moment for the Historic Preservation Fund” by Preservation Buffalo Niagara, Buffalo Rising (June 2025). See more from Bernice: Strong Towns Neighborhood Evolution Preservation Buffalo Niagara Abby Newsham (X/Twitter). Theme Music by Kemet the Phantom.   This podcast is made possible by Strong Towns members. Click here to learn more about membership, including member-exclusive perks.