
The Good, The Bad & The Rugby
James Haskell, Mike Tindall and Alex Payne return for season five of The Good, The Bad & The Rugby. Expect more great guests, insight, laughter and tears.
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Jun 4, 2025 • 41min
Henry Pollock, Ellis Genge & Michael Cheika Join Us At The Rugby Awards!
Join James Haskell from the 2025 Rugby Awards as he dives into the Gallagher Premiership semi-finals, featuring Bath v Bristol and Leicester v Sale Sharks. This episode also brings an update on Michael Tindall's new global franchise "R360" with GBR promising to deliver all the facts when the time is right. Special guest Ellis Genge shares his deeply ingrained animosity towards local rivals Bath, a feeling cultivated since his academy days. Plus, a blossoming bromance unfolds as Haskell chats with rising star Henry Pollock following his Lions call-up, discussing his sponsorship aspirations and house renovation plans. Hear from Leicester coach Michael Cheika on the turning point in his team's Premiership journey and the vital impact of the Welford Road crowd.
Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres
00:00 🚀 Strap in with Continental Tyres
02:00 💡 Update on Tins' R360
04:30 🔥 Ellis Genge on the Lions
12:00💥 Bath v Bristol
16:00 ✨ Henry Pollock's stellar year
27:00 🎉 Amazing Lions Prize!!!
29:00 🧠 Michael Cheika
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Welcome to The Good, The Bad & The Rugby with journalist and former broadcaster Alex Payne, England and Lions flanker James Haskell, and World Cup Winner Mike Tindall.
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May 28, 2025 • 1h 20min
From Champions Cup Glory To Sevens Slashes: Mike Friday & Rugby’s Future
Vive Bordeaux! Ex-England, Kenya and USA Sevens coach, Mike Friday dives into a jaw-dropping week of rugby alongside Payno and Hask. The lads debate the titanic final between Bordeaux and Northampton Saints, centring on accusations of foul play against Rugby’s greatest showman, Henry Pollock. What did our young Lion learn? & as the EPCR announce a new Club World Cup, we look to rugby’s future.
Sevens guru Mike also reacts to the sport’s management in the face of heartbreaking headlines that Ireland Men’s Sevens team will cease to exist and Great Britain men and women will move to a part-time programme. Is its Olympic status at stake?
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🛞 00:00 - Strap In With Continental Tyres!
🤼 03:32 - Kabaddi v Rugby: Sevens Stars In India’s RPL
🔥 07:33 - Northampton v Bordeaux - The Breakdown
🌟 16:18 - Pollock Steals The Show
🤔 28:26 - Did Penaud Make The Difference?
🏆 33:04 - Bath Bring It Home
🌍 35:31 - A New Rugby World Club Cup?
‼️ 45:34 - Sevens Revolution: Changes To The World Series
📉 58:53 - Why Were Ireland and GB Sevens Cutback?
🥇 01:06:16 - Flag Football v Sevens: An Olympic Battle
🦁 01:10:12 - Solutions… A British & Irish Lions Sevens Team? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 22, 2025 • 1h 13min
"Are You Not Entertained?!" Why Saints v Bordeaux Will Be Epic!
Get ready for the Investec Champions Cup final! This week, we're breaking down the Anglo-French showdown between Northampton Saints and Bordeaux, with Ben Kayser's inside track on the big-budget French side and their attacking genius Jalibert.
We also delve into Bath's Gallagher Premiership dominance and their upcoming Challenge Cup Final. Plus, huge news on Red Bull's potential takeover of Newcastle Falcons and Antoine Dupont's move into American rugby ownership. All this, plus our final picks for the ultimate Investec Champions Cup Dream Team.
Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres.
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00:00 🛞 Strap in with Continental Tyres
02:25 🛁 Bath's Premiership Dominance: Is Their Squad Unstoppable?
10:19 💸 Rugby Ticket Prices: "Obscene" for Fans!!!
13:02 🐯 Leicester Tigers' New Era: Geoff Parling Appointment Discussed
20:03 😇 Northampton's Champions Cup Cohesion
24:39🍷 Bordeaux's "Freak Attack": Jalibert & Lucu's Magic
48:55: 🦓 Investec Champions Cup Dream Team: Our Ultimate Picks!
55:36 🪽 Red Bull Buys Newcastle Falcons?! A Major Game Changer
01:05:49 🇺🇸 Antoine Dupont's American Rugby Investment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 15, 2025 • 1h 25min
Freeman's A Lion, Your Defence is Terrified!
Northampton and England winger Tommy Freeman joins the pod for a laugh-out-loud, raw and at times deeply personal chat. Fresh off a Lions call-up and in red-hot form - with 15 tries in his last 10 games - Tommy reflects on the moments that shaped him, from the heartbreak of missing out on the 2023 Rugby World Cup to living with epilepsy. With Saints heading into the Investec Champions Cup Final, we look ahead to his blockbuster showdown with Louis Bielle-Biarrey as Northampton prepare to face Bordeaux.
Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres.
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🎧 00:00 – Strap in with Continental Tyres
🦁 02:00 – Freeman’s a Lion
💥 10:00 – Tommy on Pollock
🔄 19:28 – Mr Versatile - winger, fullback, centre... and maybe even a 10?
👬 23:07 – Mitchell & Smith - the big kids of Northampton
👑 27:00 – Hampton Court & Royal Questions
🔥 33:00 – Try Machine
🚨 38:28 – Hooked by Eddie Jones
🐯 42:28 – Why Tigers Passed
💔 43:57 – Missing the 2023 RWC
🧠 45:00 – Living with Epilepsy
🔵 54:36 – The Leinster Recap
🙌 01:00:00 – Fraser Dingwall Appreciation Society
⚡ 01:04:00 – Final H2H: Freeman vs Bielle-Biarry
🏆 01:08:00 – The People’s Final – Saints vs Bordeaux
⌚ 01:14:30 – Watches of Bath Quiz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 7, 2025 • 1h 4min
Oh When The Saints Go Marching In!
Filmed in style at the House of Rémy Martin, this week’s episode finds Alex, Hask, and Jonny May enjoying life in Cognac-deep in wine country and not far from Bordeaux’s dismantling of Toulouse-as they unpack a seismic weekend in the Investec Champions Cup.
Northampton’s young guns stun Leinster, prompting big praise for Pollock, Smith, Freeman and more. But how might the Saints’ heroics shake up Andy Farrell’s Lions selection? Plus, Jonny faces another pronunciation test-this time courtesy of Bielle-Biarrey.
Please enjoy your Rémy Martin responsibly.
Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres.
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🚗 00:00 – Buckle Up with Continental Tyres
🥃 02:53 – Welcome Rémy Martin!
🎤 05:00 – Hampton Court Live Show Details
☘️ 06:33 – How the Saints Stunned Dublin
🔥 14:51 – Fearless ? Northampton’s Mindset
🎨 24:00 – Pollock’s not so secret talent
🦁 31:30 – How the results will impact the Lions selction
😱 46:24 – What happened to Leinster?
🍷 50:00 – Bordeaux make their first Champions Cup Final! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

May 3, 2025 • 1h 28min
French Lessons: England's Cross-Channel Wake-Up Call
As French club rugby thrives, English rugby finds itself at a crossroads. Alex and Tins are joined by Jonny May, Courtney Lawes, and rugby powerbroker Simon Gillham [OBE] for a timely conversation on what England can learn from across the Channel. From the dominance of ProD2 and the booming Top 14 to the structural chaos at home, the team digs into the future of the English game.
Plus: Courtney’s Lions ambitions & Investec Champions Cup semi-final previews. Tickets are selling fast for finals weekend in Cardiff on the 23rd and 24th of May, head to EPCRugby.com for more details.
Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres.
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🛞 00:00 – Buckle Up with Continental Tyres
🎙️ 02:00 – Meet Simon Gillham OBE: Rugby’s Quiet Powerbroker
🤝 05:47 – When Brive Signed Courtney Lawes: Inside the Transfer
🏆 11:14 – Why Promotion & Relegation Still Works
🇫🇷 21:13 – What English Rugby Can Learn from France
📺 27:30 – Prem Rugby’s £200M TV Deal: Gamechanger?
⚠️ 40:18 – The Hidden Problem with Premiership Academies
🏗️ 45:47 – Franchise Model: Big Questions
🔥 51:35 – Investec Champions Cup Semi-Final Preview
🔍 56:59 – Courtney’s Saints Scouting Report
🦁 01:04:00 – Lions 10 Debate: Smith, Prendergast, Ford, Farrell?
🇫🇷 01:09:49 – Bordeaux v Toulouse: All French Affair
🔮 01:11:50 – Semi-Final Predictions: Who’s Going to Cardiff?
🎯 01:13:50 – Courtney on a 3rd Lions Tour?
🧠 01:18:00 – England’s New Coaching Team & Players to Watch this Summer
🐉 01:21:25 – Dave Reddin Joins Wales
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Apr 22, 2025 • 1h 4min
From Lions Coach To Life Coach: Craig White
The Godfather of Strength and Conditioning.Fresh from the misty mountains of Peru, Al and Hask are joined by Hask's former Conditioning Coach at Wasps, Craig White; a man whose influence has shaped the face of High-Performance Coaching in rugby. With troublesome tales of managing Trevor Leota at Wasps alongside Shaun Edwards, Craig shares the biggest lessons he learned working with Clive Woodward and Warren Gatland on the 2005 and 2009 Lions Tours. For Craig, everything changed when he took a breather from the hyper-masculine world of rugby just months before the 2011 World Cup to go on a yoga retreat that opened his eyes to mindfulness, nature and a more spiritual style of coaching…Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres. 🛞 00:00 - Strap in with Continental Tyres🐝 01:00 - A Wasps Reunion💪09:38 - Prescribing Brotherhood⚽🏉 16:07 - Football V Rugby, Allardyce V Gatland🤯 20:26 - How Do You Manage Trevor Leota?🦁 25:02 - 2005 + 2009 Lions Tour Double🐯 34:54 - Crouching Tigers Hidden Craig🧘♂️ 38:24 - The Life-Changing Yoga Retreat💥 45:19 - Hitting Rock Bottom & Learning How To Feel🌿 52:03 - Get Children Off Screens & In Nature🌍 55:46 - Tier 2 Champion: Uruguay and Chile Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 15, 2025 • 1h 32min
Henry Pollock: He’s in your head! PLUS Jack Willis joins from Toulouse
2-time Investec Champions Cup Winner Geordan Murphy joins Hask and Payno to break down the weekend’s action. Leinster have activated cheat mode with Jordie Barrett at 12 and the RG Snyman wrecking shop. Jack Willis checks in from Toulouse to reflect on a gritty win in Toulon, life without Dupont, and his Lions ambitions. Plus: Furbank’s return, Vesty’s attack and Pollock’s swagger lighting up English rugby. Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres. WOB Group & GB&R Competition Entry Form🛞 00:00 – Buckle Up with Continental Tyres🤣 03:28 – Hask’s WILD Rory McIlroy Story ⚡ 06:15 – Leinster Go FULL Cheat Mode🧠 14:52 – How should Leinster deal with Pollock? 😲 26:54 – The Reason Tommy Freeman Left Leicester🔥 29:00 – Just How Lethal is Sam Vesty’s Attack?!🇫🇷 33:20 – Bordeaux Lucu Good👬 39:16 – Willis x Hask Reunite⚔️ 41:51 – Toulon vs Toulouse: Hostility & History 🔍 45:00 – Who Really Is Ugo Mola? 😢 53:29 – The Dupont Void: How Big a Loss?🫡 57:30 – What It Means to Captain Toulouse📈 01:00:00 – Jack’s Rise On & Off the Pitch❤️ 01:07:00 – Brotherly Love: Tom & Jack’s Bond🦁 01:11:00 – Jack’s Lions Nibble🌟 01:17:30 – Investec Dream Team🧩 01:25:00 – New Tigers Coach? No.10? Fin Smith Rumors Fly! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 8, 2025 • 1h 15min
Epic Cup Knockouts & Lions Spots on the Line!
Benjamin Kayser joins Hask and Tins to break down all the action from the Investec Champions Cup knockout stages.What’s next for La Rochelle under O'Gara’s leadership? Has Tadhg Beirne’s recent performances shifted our Lions XV? And with 4 English teams falling in the Round of 16, the guys question whether England's eligibility rules should be changed for Jack Willis.Plus, don’t miss the latest round of Who The Ruck Is That? Can Connor from Aylesford Bulls Rugby Club win £5k for his team?Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres.WOB Group & GB&R Competition Entry Form🦓 00:00 – Welcome to the Investec Quarters🪂 01:00 – Parachute Chaos in Toulouse🤔 04:30 – Can O’Gara Turn La Rochelle’s Fortunes Around?👑 11:20 – Tadhg Beirne: Sorry Not Sorry🌹12:30 – A Tough Weekend for the English Sides🧠 21:19 – The Marcus Smith Dilemma🇫🇷 26:00 – Jack Willis: The French-Based Lion?📈 32:32 – Lions Watch: Who’s Rising? Who’s Falling?🎯 39:00 – Munster’s Miracle Run: Can They Go All the Way?🇫🇷 41:22 – Why the French Still Care About Europe💙 43:23 – Leinster’s Dream Draw🔮 48:15 – Quarter-Final Predictions: Who Makes the Final?🍚 49:30 – Elevate Your Plate: Tilda Rice Time🏉 50:59 – Ultimate Investec Partnerships: The Half-Back Debate🛁 58:53 – Bath for Bath: Tins Caught in a Club Conundrum🏟️ 59:43 – Worcester are Back! But What About Wasps?🕵️ 01:01:17 – Who the Ruck is That?! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Apr 1, 2025 • 1h 6min
Richard the Lionheart: Wigglesworth’s Next Crusade
Fresh from his appointment to the British & Irish Lions coaching team, Richard Wigglesworth joins The Good, the Bad & the Rugby for a deep dive into his remarkable journey—from record-breaking Premiership player to key figure in England’s coaching setup. Hask and Tins catch up with their old teammate to discuss the challenges of Lions selection and his reflections on England’s Six Nations campaign under Steve Borthwick.With the Investec Champions Cup knockout stages looming, and with his Lions hat on, Wigglesworth shares his thoughts on the key games and match-ups.Season 5 is sponsored by Continental Tyres.WOB Group & GB&R Competition Entry Form🎂 00:00 – Hask Turns 40! Birthday Surprise 🏉 01:00 – Welcoming Richard Wigglesworth🔥 05:00 – England’s Six Nations: The Review🌹 08:30 – Life Under Steve Borthwick⚡ 14:30 – The Moment It Clicked for England🏆 16:30 – Fin Smith: Winning Machine🔄 18:40 – Hybrid Players: The Future of Rugby?💥 20:16 – Henry Pollock Impact🍚 25:28 – Elevate Your Plate with Tilda Rice🦁 27:00 – Becoming a British & Irish Lions Coach🤜🤛 30:30 – Wigglesworth & Farrell: The Bond🧐 36:21 – GBR’s Lions Selection & Tough Calls🦓 43:39 – Investec Champions Cup: Who’s Got the Edge?💼 59:30 – Bill Sweeney Survives! ⏱️ 01:01:00 – Win Big! Watches of Bath Competition Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices