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Apr 13, 2015 • 44min
Podcasting Adds Personality To Your Blog and Business
Today we have great new! The Podcast Troll has been stripped of their patent. We alos have a lovely story of a father and son creating a podcast together at oowrestlingreview.com
Brandon Turner Adds Personality to His Website
Brandon has an article on Entrepreneur Magazine's website. It's title 5 Ways Podcasting Help Your Business.
His podcast helps him:
1. Generate traffic
2. Build relationships with his audience
3. Increased Conversations
4. Better publicspeaking skills
5. Direct learning from influencers
You will hear how 70% of the people who join his membership program are podcast listeners.
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Apr 6, 2015 • 58min
Taking Phone Calls On Your Podcast
While one of the coolest features of the podcasts is the ability to time shift. I can record this on 4/2 and you can listen to it years later. There is one element missing in this and this is live feedback. You get feedback, but it is later when your audience consumes it. Like most things, the more features you add to a product, the more complex it gets. Taking (and recording) phone calls is one of those things that its hard to do without adding more mixers, cables, etc.
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First Words of Wisdom: Don't Do This
Unless you REALLY want to do this, don't. You will need to (more than likely) pick a time when your audience knows you will be there. Keep in mind when you first start out, you DON'T HAVE AN AUDIENCE YET. So you will be adding extra complexities that will burn you out as a new podcaster and make you want to quit.
How The Stars Take Phone Calls on Their Podcast: You Call Them
I know Jillian Michaels will announce on her Facebook page when she will be in the studio recording her calls. If you are free during that time you send her staff and email with your name and your question. They call you, and get you on the show. I believe Ice T does the same thing.
A Free Way To Take Calls: Google Voice
You can get a free phone number from Google (better known as Google Voice) and route that number to your smart phone (thus saving you from giving out your cell phone to the public). You then talk into your microphone and your phone at the same time. The microphone sends your voice into your mixer, and the phone sends your voice to the caller. To get the caller into your mixer, you can use an 1/8" to a dual 1/4" cable (like this one - affiliate link). You then send the mix of you and your phone into your computer or portable recorder. The Good News: It's free and its easy to control. The Bad News: There is no cue (a line of callers visible to you). Also, as this is your cell phone your wife may call into the show. Reality: Not a bad option. The lack of cue is not an issue as you may not have any callers at first.
Skype in Numbers: $60 a Year
It's very hard to find pricing on the skype site. A forum post showed the price as $60 a year. Here again, you have no call "cue" and it is first come first serve. If someone has called in, the other callers will just here the phone ringing and ringing. The Good News: If you have a co-host this is an easy way to get everyone to hear everyone The Bad News: Adjust sound levels is very limited. You will more than likely become acquainted with The Levelator software (free) and Auphonic.com
Call in Studio: An Inexpensive Call Cue Callinstudio.com charges .03 cents per minute for every caller (you can limit the number of people who can call in at the same time). The phone number is $6 a month. My most expensive show was around $8.00 for the episode (meaning $2 worth of callers). If you do an hour long show it will cost you $1.80 (.03 * 60 minutes). In a nutshell it would take a LOT of calls to get close to the $40 that Blog Talk Radio charges. Connecting you to the caller. Here again, you can use you smart phone to call into the callinstudiocom. You can use Skype (free) to call into Callinstudio.com. You then take that sound and send it into your mixer. From your mixer into a recording device. You may have issues if you only have one computer. Sending sound (the caller) out of a computer and back into the same computer to record is the definition of feedback. You are feeding the sound of the caller back into the computer. This is where you need a mix minus. This means you send the sound of the mix (you and the caller) back into the computer minus the sound of the caller (this is where a portable recorder comes in nicely - you can have the main out go to the recorder and use an auxialry send to send the sound of just you to the caller.
The Good News: You have a call cue. You can have a screener. You can call guest.
The Bad News: You need an auxiliary send for everything you tie to the mixer. If its you and callers. You need an auxilary send on your mixer. If it is you, a co-host, and callers, you need two auxiliary sends. In other words, its getting complicated. its not impossible. But it gets complicated.
Blog Talk Radio: A Pretty Call Cue Blog Talk Radio is working hard on updating their system. They have a beta system that produces CD quality sound. In a few months this will come out of beta. This is great. According to their website you can use their free account and have up to five callers. This may be the best solution for using their phone technology. While they have made great strides, I would not use them as my primary platform at this point. My biggest issue is if you use them as a primary platform (per their terms) you HAVE To use their RSS feed (and there is on way to redirect it). Also when I played with their free account I can't schedule a show between 7 and 10:30 PM. The shows are limited to 30 minutes. Blog Talk Radio DOES make recording easy, but it sounds like a phone. When they get their beta finished you will be able to connect directly from your computer. When you spend $40 a month you can do 2 hours of show a day. Most people don't need that much time. You also get advertising impressions. In general, it is my opinion that you are paying for lots of stuff you don't need.
Tools To Stream Live
Spreaker.com: Spreaker is a great media hosting provider that allows you to stream your show live. Their free service lets you do a 40 minute show whenever you want. You can store 10 hours of media. Their chat system is pretty cool. For $20 a month you can do a three hour show, and store up to 500 hours (basically 9.6 years if you do an hour a week). When you reach your limit you have to pull some shows (I'm assuming older) off. They provide stats on your downloads. You can record via browser, or smartphone app, tablets, etc.
Mixlr.com Mixlr is not meant to be a media host. They make it super easy to stream stuff. Whatever you send at it, it steams. You can use a browser, a smartphone, etc. There are no real stats that you can check. They provide an email with stats, but in general, I would say they don't have stats. For free you can stream up to an hour any time you want. The quality is not as good as the premium plan which is $10 a month. I really like their chat.
Keep it As Simple As You Can
While you may think adding a certain element is cool, you REALLY need to ask yourself, "Do I need this?" The more you add the better the chance you will be purcashing things to play and record on. On my Ask the Podcast Coach show (Live Saturdays at 10:30 am or catch the back episodes ) I was using my cellphone to connect to the phone system (I've used both Blog Talk Radio and Call in Studio) and I played my intro outro using my iPad that went into a my Behringer X1832 USB mixer (lots of auxilary sends) that went into my Mac Mini where I sent it to both Spreaker and Mixlr (I would not recommend that I do that as I'm always testing).
Because of my Podcast: Jeff Steinman
Jeff is the author of How To Quit Working: A Simple Plan to Leave Your Job for a Life of Freedom and shares how over 60% of his customers have read his book. His book and podcast have now become a business. The one thing that the podcast has really delivered is key relationships. Find out more about Jeff at howtoquitworking.com/
Marc Maron of wtfpod.com got to interview one of his idols Mick Jagger on his podcast. Speaking of Marc Maron, if you have netflix check out his TV show "Maron" and go to season two and look for the episode titles Radio Cowboy. Marc goes off on a morning zoo team and its hilarious.
Podcast Rewind:
I appeared on episode 8 of Podcaster's Group Therapy
I also appeared on the Timelines of Success show.
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Mar 30, 2015 • 57min
David Hooper's Big Bold Impact
Podcasting News:
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Podcast Rewind:
I was on episode 31 of the Podcast Digest talking podcasting equipment, because of my podcast stories, podcast websites and more.
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David Hooper Shares Behind the Scenes of the RED podcast (real entrepreneur development)
David Hooper produced the RED Podcast with his wife Laurel. RED stands for Real Entrepreneur Development. We help you build an audience, sell more products, and make more money. We show you how to find the “hidden money” in your business. In this interview we talk about how: He recorded a bunch of episode before episodes before adding their show to iTunes He purposely set out to be different than any other "entrepreneur podcasts" When you have a business but you're not in the phone book are you not in business? You can wait and work out the kinks of your podcast before listing it in iTunes He is using the podcast to expand out past his Music Business Audience He created a studio in his home without spending thousands of dollars by using ATR2100 microphones, and a Noise Gate. We talk about his interview process and how he prepares a guest before the interview. Check out the RED podcast in iTunes, or on their website.
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Mar 23, 2015 • 43min
Let's Give Them Something To Talk About
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I read the book Word of Mouth Marketing: How Smart Companies Get People Talking and while the book didn't do a ton for me, it did provide me with one question that can help me build my audience. It provided a question that can help inspire word of mouth. Here it is:
What is the topic you are covering in your podcast that will inspire your audience to tell one of their friends?
So I paid attention to myself this week to see what information I told friends about. I had two. One from episode 39 of Profitcast (a podcast dedicated to examining ways to monetize your podcast), and the MoneyPlan Show (help you pay attention - not interest).
This week was walking around a Holiday Inn in Lavonia Michigan listening to Profitcast. Brian came on and explained how a podcast can be
Good
Quick
Cheap
The kicker is you can only pick two. It can be good and quick, but it won't be cheap. John Lee Dumas had sponsors six months after launching his Entrepreneur on Fire podcast (6 months is quick). His show is great (I'm a fan). It wasn't cheap. He spent $3000 on a mentor, and John had six figures in the bank when he started (hear about this on the MoneyPlan SOS podcast). So it was expensive to start. If you want your show to be quick and cheap, it's probably not going to be good. If your show is going to be good and cheap, it's going to take a while to build that audience (but maybe not using the question above). You can hear Brian dig deeper into the good, quick, cheap discussion on Profitcastuniverse.com I like Brian. I've had him on this show and he co-hosted one week on Ask the Podcast Coach. He's a good guy. So there I was walking around the hotel and his episode just made me think, and then I wanted to shout AMEN! That was such a cool way of explaining a person's podcast. I IMMEDIATELY stopped what I was doing, clicked on the image in the podcasts app and prayed he put contact information in his show notes (he did). He had a link to speakpipe, which then launched the app on my phone and there I was telling Brian how his content just blew me out of the water. WOW. Later that week (now in Toled0) I had the pleasure of meeting Nick Sueberling from the Podcasters Group Therapy podcast (and inside the jungle) and I told him about this "Good, Quick, Cheap" theory. Nick had heard it used in business. This is a great example of things you know that you think EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT (but obviously not - as I didn't). Later I posted it in School of Podcasting Private Facebook group (that you get access to when you are a member). Bill Conrad checked it out and later reposted about the show. He called his "Binge of the week." Later in the week I was listening to Steve Stewart talk about Bitcoin on episode 179 of the MoneyPlan Sos show, and then he throws in this BOMB of a subject that just blew me away. It tells the story (stories ALWAYS work) of Joe Legal, Jose Illegal. As Steve explains both of these men do construction. Joe Legal makes quite a bit more money than Hosea Illegal. Steve continues on and you hear that Joe pays taxes, insurance, health care, and other costs that in the end leave him having to get a part time gig to make ends meet. Hosea Illegal doesn't pay taxes or for school lunches, health benefits, and other items. It was VERY interesting and done in a "Just the facts" fashion (not really taking sides). The minute my wife got in the car, I had to play it for her. It was a great conversation starter. What topics are you tossing to your audience? Are the conversation starters? The #1 way people find about about podcasts is through word of mouth. Sure we all use Twitter, facebook, etc, but a TON of the word of mouth about podcasts happens face to face. In the immortal words of Bonnie Raitt "Let's give them something to talk about."
How Are You Standing Out?
I was thinking about the news. Every day (sadly) someone gets shot, a politician lies, a new business opens, and a beloved institution closes. A sports guy screams into the camera about a bunch of millionaires who run around and sweat for our amusement. You have a cuddly friendly weather person who secretly knows that they are being replaced by an app on your phone. The news anchor who went to school to be a journalist now gets to read headlines about B list celebrities on reality shows. The sky traffic report from a helicopter doesn't really matter because by the time you get in the car they will have that wreck cleared. This too is being replaced by an app (Waze app) To me its all the same thing. I rarely tell someone about anything I heard about on your typical newscast. I do talk about things on the New Agenda Show (that should be on the evening news). Every Newscast in America Parody (18:30)
Word of Mouth Book
I listened to this book as an Audio book (from Audible - Get a Free Book When You Sign Up). I found it "meh." If you are absolutely brand new to marketing it would be great (tips like "Be nice to people" and "start a blog" I think I have down).
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Mar 16, 2015 • 56min
Amy Schmittauer - Does the Work in a Savvy, Sexy, Social Way
Does it matter where you host your media if it's an actual media host? What is Amy Schmittaur behind the camera? What kind of downloads can I expect from my first pdocast episode? If my show is really bad, what can I expect? All of these questions are answered in today's School of Podcasting's Morning Announcements episode 453.
Dave's Thoughts on Spreaker
Colin from Canada asks, "What are your thoughts on Spreaker? Is it too crowded, what do you think of their sound quality?" I've spoken about podcast media hosts in the past, and a few years ago I was not a huge fan of Spreaker. I was contacted by the head of Spreaker, we got on Skype and since then they have continued to add more and more features to their platform. They use to rename your file, tweak your ID3 tags, and there was no way to redirect your feed. Those objections have been solved. Do I have any objections to Spreaker now? Only one (and it's a small one). Both Libsyn.com and Blubrry.com have the ability to have an unlimited back catalog. Spreaker allows you to have a HUGE back catalog, but in the end, there IS a limit (510 hours - thats a lot of episodes - for $20 a month).
Your Host Won't Get Your More Listeners
So many people thought that having their podcast on SoundCloud would bring them more audience (in my circles it brought in an additional 3%). While Spreaker does have a thriving community, in the end don't look to your media host to bring you an audience - you need to do that on your own.
What Kind of Numbers Does a New Podcast Get?
Last week I released an experiment of mind call Podcasting For Free. Episode 4 got 33 downloads in a week. Another experiment I did was trying to make the absolutely worst podcast. I think I succeeded as the first episode released in 2013 still only has 8 downloads. Downloads will always be based on your topic, genre, and background. We have tools to help you shape your content at the School of Podcasting.
Amy Schmittauer Jumps Into the Podcasting Pool (With No Makeup)
Amy Schmittaur is the force behind Savvy Social Sexy. I found Amy on YouTube and I love her sarcasm, and her content. For me, that's an unbeatable combination. In today's interview we discover: 1. Amy is actually shy when the camera is turned off 2. People give you 8 seconds on YouTube to make your first impression 3. In the end, you have to do the work. You have to at least try. 4. Amy is out on her Sexy Savvy Social LIVE tour (see info). 5. The things Amy can do in a podcast that she can't do in a YouTube video. Here is Amy explaining the name of her brand. It makes me laugh every time I watch it (#imjustsayin') https://youtu.be/_oDGxqzO2z8
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Serial dowload numbers
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Mar 9, 2015 • 50min
Podcasting Stats - Lots and Lots of Podcasting Stats
Libsyn.com Podcasting Stats from 1.9 Billion to 2.6 Billion downloads
1.9 Billion in 2013
2.5 Billion in 2014
8 Million daily audience requests for podcast during the fourth quarter of 2014
Unique monthly audience members continued to grow to 41 million individuals in 2014 versus 25 million at the beginning of 2013, marking another milestone achievement
That represents a 37% increase in annual download requests.
The accelerated growth for podcast audience engagement continues with more podcasts being distributed to Mobile devices. Of the 2.6 billion downloads, over 1.6 billion (63%) were requested from Mobile devices, with a 5.4 to 1 ratio for iOS versus Android. At the end of 2014 the WTF with Marc Maron app for iOS, Android and Windows Phone 8 had been downloaded by over 225,000 unique user accounts.
New Podcasters
Over 22,000 podcast shows use the Libsyn Network for distribution and monetization services for over 2.1 million unique, active episodes. New account sign-ups are also at an all-time high with the addition of over 2,300 new shows already in 2015.
Edison Podcasting Stats
35% of Cell Phone Users have connected it to their car to listen
33% of people (approximately 89 Million) have listened to a podcast
55% of people consume podcasts on their smart phone
17% of the US listen to podcasts on a monthly basis (46 million Americans)
10% of people 12+ have listened to podcast in a last week. (27 million Americans)
Of the 10% who listen to podcasts, 23% listen to three, 22% listen to 2, 17% listen to four or five, and 15% listen to eleven or more (averaged 6 per week)
45% percent of podcast listeners have a college degree (compared to 33% of the total population)
52% of podcast listeners make more than $10o,000 a year
NBC won their evening with a 3% rating. The serial podcast was listened to by #5 of the population.
71% (192 million) of Americans have a smart phone
81% of people 25-54 own a smart phone
AM/FM Radio being used in the car dropped 5% from 2014 to 2015
Edison research
Podcast Awards Website Stats
32.8% of nominees had no email address or form to contact them (twitter, facebook, Google+ do not count)
26.3% had no iTunes icon on their website.
and yet what do people want most? Comments and interaction from their audience, and more subscribers/downloads……
25.3% had no way to download the file
23.5% of podcasters nominted for a podcast award did NOT have an RSS icon/link on their website (on the front page)
there is more to podcasting than itunes. Give people and RSS so they can subscribe on whatever they want to use.
22.8% of the nominees had an RSS feed that was invalid
it doesn’t do any good to have a feed if it doesn’t work (case in point soundcloud)
17.2% had no visible player to click play when you land on their website (many you had to dig to find one)
14.4% Had no social media to share you content
One other things that were interesting. Some of the top podcasts of 2014 (Serial, Startup, and Reply All) have no iTunes buttons on their website. Yet they dominate.
When People Find Your Podcast They Will Binge Listen
Today I play a clip from Elsie Escobar who (along with Jessice Kupferman) produce the She Podcasts podcast (she is also the co-host of The Feed). The clip is Elsie talking about how she discovered the "What I Wore When" Glamore podcast through word of mouth (the co-host of the Feed Rob Walch's wife liked the show), and when she found it - she downloaded all the episodes.
Because of My Podcast
Michael from the Recovered Podcast talks about how his podcast is helping people get off drugs. For more information go to www.recoveredcast.comMentioned in this episode:2025 Audience SurveyCan You Do Me a Favor? Vote For Me!This only takes a minute, if you could go to www.podcastawards.com and vote for the School of Podcasting in the education category -it would mean the world to me. Podcast Awards

Mar 2, 2015 • 54min
Jeff Brown Shares 26 Years Of Experience Behind the Microphone
I am working on an episode that will have clips of people who have been on radio, and I'm still working on it. When I interviewed Jeff Brown from podcasteracademy.com and the Lead to Read Podcast (readtoleadpodcast.com) he just kept bring gold and I just couldn't wait to share it. We talk about
Tips on conducting good interviews
Keep a level of intimacy with your audience
How Taco Bell Almost got Jeff Fired
How do you get guests for your show (when they say no the first time)
We also hear the last five podcasts Jeff listened to.
Behind the Scenes of the Podcast Awards: I looked Stupid and Lived to Tell
This was the first year that the Podcast Awards were owned by the New Media Expo. I am the Director of Podcasting for the New Media Expo and (much like a new podcaster) we found ourselves saying, "This takes longer than we thought." It took so much time that we were copying and pasting stats into PowerPoint Presentations right before we went live (crunching and assembling the numbers took longer than expected).
So there I was rolling out the finalists, and when I went to a slide the information wasn't there. I had checked and re-checked my slides. I mean, I TEACH POWERPOINT AS PART OF MY DAY GIG! On another slide I had pasted the wrong information. As the old saying goes...
Haste makes waste.
This was live in front of about 150 people.
Egg meet face.
As I write this, that was about 2.5 hours ago and you know what?
I'm alive.
I will live to see another day.
I/We learned a valuable lesson (after all they're not mistakes - they are learning opportunities!).
So if you are worried about starting a podcast and you're afraid you'll look stupid, keep this in mind:
1. When you first start out you don't have a very big audience (so nobody will really know).
2. You can cross that mistake off the bucket list and get back to making even better content.
3. You will live. Very few people actually die from embarrassment.Mentioned in this episode:2025 Audience SurveyCan You Do Me a Favor? Vote For Me!This only takes a minute, if you could go to www.podcastawards.com and vote for the School of Podcasting in the education category -it would mean the world to me. Podcast Awards

Feb 23, 2015 • 43min
How Do You Define Value?
In today's show we talk about a new Podcast Award, some weird stuff at Fiverr.com, and I answer what I feel is value, the big question how do YOU define value. What value do you get from the podcasts you listen to?
New Media Expo is Right Around the Corner
Academy of Podcasters
A new award has been created from Stitcher and the folks at podcast movement. For more information go to http://academyofpodcasters.com/voting-criteria/
Daniel J. Lewis Has His Artwork and Copy Stolen on Fiverr.com
I wrote about this on a previous post, on a post on how Daniel J. Lewis from podcastcoverart.com had his artwork AND ADVERTISING COPY being used (illegally) by a person on fiverr.com so I talk about what I would use Fiverr for at THIS POST. I do mention Music Radio Creative on the show today and play a clip
How Do YOU Define Value?
On the Feed podcast a called had called in stated he was tired of Podcasting Gurus telling other people how to podcast. I agree. There is no one size fits all. I use the anology of Football. There are: Teams that run the ball well Teams that pass the ball well Teams with tremendous defense Teams with great special teams In the end, it doesn't matter how you get there as long as you end up in the end zone for a touchdown.
How I define Value
I looked at what I consume and found that most of the content I watch, listen, or read: Makes me laugh Makes me cry Makes me Think Makes me Groan Or it entertains and educates me.
Social Value
If you want people to talk about your show, it needs to provide social value. When I reviewed the Sci-Fi Movie podcast I was amazed at the level of trivia they had discovered about the movie they were talking about. If I was at a party full of people talking about Sci-fi, I would be armed with some seriously cool information. I would look good, and when people ask how I know so much I would say, "I listen to the Sc-fi Movie Podcast." This according to the book contagious, by Jonah Berger.Mentioned in this episode:Can You Do Me a Favor? Vote For Me!This only takes a minute, if you could go to www.podcastawards.com and vote for the School of Podcasting in the education category -it would mean the world to me. Podcast Awards2025 Audience Survey

Feb 16, 2015 • 54min
The Journey of Podcasting Starts with a Single Episode- Profitcast's The Real Brian
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There are those who get into podcasting for the sole reason of making some quick cash. I typically FEEL this is bad idea (cash? maybe, quick? hardly). There seems to be a few different schools of thought on how to get into podcasting. We have all see the "On Fire" clonification of podcasting (I think I just made up a word) where everyone thought if they just did what John Lee Dumas does, they will make $2 million per year like John does. It didn't work. There are others who just do it for fun. This is fine. I recently purchased some items for the kitchen, and nobody is approaching me asking, "Hey you spend $99 on that Power Pressure Cooker XL how much are you making from it." We all have different dreams, insights, desires. Podcasting has many motivations. These include:
To be seen as an expert
To boost your exposure
To build your community
To understand your community
To reach a global audience
To increase awareness of your products and services
To interview your favorite people
To document your process of understanding a subject (I call this the "journey" podcast).
The Journey Podcast
Joanna Penn of the Creative Penn started a podcast because she wanted to know more about self publishing. She did. She interviewed experts and now, years later, she IS an expert on Self-publishing. She didn't wait until she knew it all, she started and did what she could along the way.
You Don't Have to Be Great To Start - But You Do Have to Start to Be Great
Today we hear from Crag from inglespodcast.com who mentions how he started with just putting audio on his website, and gradually over time built up his skills, his gear, and now has a top notch podcast. John from Lets Talk Metal and Treasure Hunting who mentions that the podcast How Sound mentions that they feel people should always map out their show. John feel that being an "independent" means you don't have to record like they do. This is true, you can record however you want. In the end it will be the listener who helps you shape your content. As John mentions he didn't care for one podcast because he wasn't interested in the topic. There was nothing wrong with the topic, but he is not the intended audience.
Starting Somewhere My Nomad Guitar
When I was in my early teens I had a paper route. I used the money from the paper route to buy a guitar of my own. It wasn't much, but it was mine. It was what I could afford at the time. You see the paper route wasn't mine. I was a helper for my friend who had his own paper route. Later, when I had my own route I saved up $300 to purchase a Gibson SG. In 1981 (and having a paper route) this was a huge amount of cash. I had developed my taste for guitar playing on the SG knock off, and now was ready to migrate to a REAL SG.
Brian From ProfitCast - On His Way to Being an Expert
Profitcast is a great show where the host "The Real Brian" interviews experts, but it also is where Brian reveals what he is trying (and if it is working or not). He looked at the podcasting community and saw that one of the biggest things that EVERY podcaster wants is to grow their audience, and in some cases to monetize it. Brian start Profitcast to investigate strategies and tools to help podcasters grow their audience. In the interview we discuss What inspired Profitcast The Episode where Brian pealed back the curtain and asked if people were getting anything (and how that impacted his audience) How working with the "competition" lead to more leads. How he setup a dual appearance on the Audacity to Podcast. Brian is a great guy, and his podcast can be found at Profitcastuniverse.com
Can I Podcast For Free?
Can you? Yes. Should You? Oh wait, there is that should word again. I FEEL that its not the best practice, but then again, so was buying a Nomad guitar. With this in mind, I'm doing something strange. I going to teach something I don't believe in (how to podcast for free). I had to step back, and realize that some of these students will take the course (a one time fee) dip their feet in the pool and later decide they are ready to podcast "For Real" Sometimes you want to test the water, and this is an inexpensive way to do it without any monthly costs. Order it today for $29 before the price goes up in March
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New Podcast Launched: Missional Man Podcast
Jonathan started this podcast because he wants to help other Christian men. Yes that assumes that these other Christian men need or even want help. He thinks they do. No, in fact he knows they do. Why? Because he's one of them. So actually, he started this podcast mostly for himself. He says, "I need help being both a Christian and a man." Check it out at MissionalMan.com
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Feb 9, 2015 • 58min
CEO of Podcast Funding Platform Joyride Jeff Chen
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Today I interview Jeff Chen of the new Podcast Monetization Platform JoyRide. I also share some podcasting news, and my community comes out (thanks to the kind heart of Steve Stewart) and wishes me a happy birthday as I turn 50!.
Joyride has been mentioned in Forbes, Market Watch and many other publications as they just launched in December of 2014. According to one article, "JOYRIDE allows users to search over 100,000 different podcast shows in a variety of categories, and is seeking to convince podcast listeners to donate a monthly fee to their favorite programs. JOYRIDE is one of several companies GOOGLE is using for its developer program for ANDROID AUDIO, a version of the operating system developed for smart cars.
How Much Does Joyride Cost?
It's free to sign up, and their website states, "Joyride charges 5% in fees plus credit card processing fees of 2.9% + $0.30 per contribution." When I asked Jeff if there was a fee for removing your he replied via e-mail, "Hi Dave. Nope! Those are the only fees we charge!"
With this in mind, when a listener donates $1 to you take home 62 cents and joy ride takes 38. If someone donates $3 you receive $2.46 and Joyride keeps .54 (that 30 cents per transaction really seems heft when you are only receiving one dollar - so make your rewards good enough to inspire people to pay more).
How Does Joyride Differ from Patreon?
The biggest difference is JoyRide can work on YOUR Site (so you don't have to send people to joyride.com/yourcampaign). Patreon currently takes fess on the money coming in, and they also charge a fee when you remove the money. They go into great detail on their website, and as some people pay with paypal, and other use a service called stripe, it is somewhat difficult to understand. I appreciate Patreon trying to give as much as possible, but it seems to add a certain level complication into understand exactly how much you're going to make. I am testing patreon if you want to see my current efforts.
How I Plan on Testing Joyride
On Saturdays (10:30 am) I host the "Ask the Podcast Coach" we do an hour long show, and then typically another 30 minutes "off the air." We are going to start a JoyRide campaign for those who want to hear the additional 30 minutes. I realize, that podcasting is a small niche, but it should be interesting to see how this works. I will be documenting the process along the way.
For more information go to www.getjoyride.com
Happy Birthday Dave Jackson
Thanks to Steve Stewart who rounded up a bunch of my friends to send in birthday wishes. These included:
Steve Stewart from Money Plan SOS
Darren Dake from the Coroner Podcast
Vernon from the Events Supremecy
Dr. Nina Savelle Rocklin from the Win the Diet War
Addie from the Do it Podcast
Hani from the Simple Podcast Press
Jeff Brown from the Read to Lead podcast.
Jonathan Chambers from the just luanched Missional Man podcast
Mark from the Oh Beep Podcast
Mike, Izzabella and Zara from Music Radio Creative and the Audio Production Podcast
Ralph Scott from the Sex, Drugs, and Rock and Roll podcast
Ryan Park from Food Crafstmen
Steve Stearns from Outside Health and Fitness
Wayne Henderson from Media Voiceovers
Ken Castler from Thinking Outside the Box
Elsie Escobar from She Podcasts, and The Feed
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