School of Podcasting: Expert Tips for Launching and Growing Your Podcast

Your brand is how your show is perceived. Perception is reality. So today I have tips on making your episode one that gets your audience coming back. I also share three tools that you can use to boost your podcast brand.  Don't Leave Your Audience Hungry Can you imagine if a new restaurant opened in your neighborhood and was serving your favorite food? You get all dressed up and bring a date and go to the new place looking forward to eating some of your favorite food.  You show up and the menu just mentions what will be available next week. The problem is you are there NOW and you're hungry.  So often I see a first episode delivers nothing more than what amounts to be a table of contents for future episodes. I've read a lot of books but I've never highlighted the table of contents.  Tidy Cal $20 Lifetime Deal Tidy Cal is a brand new scheduling tool that makes it easy to book guests or clients (your appointments can be free or you can charge). Check out this video I made giving you an overview. Telbee is Speakpipe on Steriods I've used Speakpipe for years, but the makers of Telbee listened to the wants of speakpipe users and developed a new, morse customizable platform.  One thing that can make your podcast better is to understand your audience. Telbee makes it easy to get feedback, and create a widget that looks great. You can even direct people to a website after they leave a message.  Channels are the feature that I could use when I do my "question of the month" episodes. I could have a channel where all the responses are tied and organized to that one channel.  Check out this quick video of me using Telbee for the first time Less Annoying CRM I've been looking for a place to organize my information where my coaching clients, my audio editing clients, my guests, or hosts where I have been on their show.   I can see my calendar, I see all the communication, set reminders, set up pipelines, and it's only $15/month.  It truly lives up to its name. "Less Annoying CRM" check out this "Drive By video" of me playing with Less Annoying CRM

Life is going to kick you in the teeth from time to time (see 2020). Today we talk about your attitude (the only thing you have control over) and we interview Shane Whaley of the Tourpreneur podcast. Shane shares how many people in the travel space just folded up everything just going out of business. This is not the approach Shane has taken, and he not only didn't shut down in 2020, but added more sponsors to his show.  Your Attitude The Longer I live, the more I realize the impact of attitude on life. Attitude, to me, is more important than facts. It is more important than the past, the education, the money, than circumstances, than failure, than successes, than what other people think or say or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness or skill. It will make or break a company... a church... a home. The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past... we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable. The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude. I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% of how I react to it. And so it is with you... we are in charge of our Attitudes.” ― Charles R. Swindoll Podcast Rewind I appeared on the Pharmacist's Voice   I also appear on the Trust cast talking why podcasting is the next big thing. If you'd like me to appear on your show, you can contact me here. Shane Whaley Tourpreneur Podcast Interview 04:55 Shane Whaley Tourpreneur.com 07:29 Shane Decided to Start Touorpreneur 10:48 The "Glenn the Geek" Strategy with Events 15:26 Take Advantage of the Extra Time COVID Created 17:50 Choosing Sponsors 19:34 Join the School of Podcasting 20:32 Going for the Win, Win, Win 22:44 Starting a Daily Email 24:37 Dealing with being a "Thought Leader" 26:58 Advice on Interviews 28:55 Dealing with a Boring Guest 30:37 Shane's hobby Podcast Spybrary 32:34 How Long Did it Take to Monetize 33:31 Getting Proof of Concept 35:09 Why he Stayed Niche 36:10 Don't Undersell Yourself 37:19 How He Came Up With Prices 38:47 Tips on Running a Community 41:00 Policing Your Group 42:28 Shane's First Podcast 44:34 Shane the Shock jock 45:43 Shiny Object Syndrome 47:30 What HASN'T Worked? 49:26 Final Advice for the "Wanna Be" podcaster Connect with Shane Whaley Tourpreneur Podcast Spybrary Podcast East Germany Podcast Ready To Start Your Podcast? If you're worried about sounding bad, planning your podcast, buying the wrong equipment, and being lost in a sea of tech, DON'T. Join the school of podcasting and get access to: A private Facebook Group for Networking Step by Step Tutorials Live Group Coaching Priority Access to Dave.  Join today at www.schoolofpodcasting.com/start

FOMO In Action I was at Social Media Marketing World in 2018 enjoying a networking event on an aircraft carrier in San Diego California. I was contacted by Michael Oneil as he and a few friends were going to go to a club called Prohibition and wanted to know if I would want to attend. Did I say it was a club? Prohibition is a speakeasy. I have never been to a speakeasy. The door that you go through shows "LAW OFFICE Eddie Onare, ESQ."  When we arrived there was an actual velvet rope. We had to wait. It myself, Michael O’Neal, Harry Durran, and Natalie Jennings. The anticipation was mounting. How long will I have to wait? Are we going to get in at all? Finally, the bouncer unclipped the rope and let us in. I remember walking through a door and going downstairs. It was getting darker and darker as we went on. When I finally get to the bottom and look around, I see a bar in front of me. I see a bench to the left of me. I see a few chairs to the right of me. It is dimly lit, with red lights in the ceiling. I think to myself. "Someone turned their basement into a bar." Don't get me wrong, it was cool. Michael and I ended up playing and singing that night with the saxophone player from Pink Floyd. But I can't underestimate the buzz and anticipation by the scarcity. This is a tactic called Fear of Missing Out (FOMO for short), and today we are going to talk about Clubhouse. This is an app (currently only available for iOs) and one of the things that is fueling the buzz about this app is their use of FOMO.  Clubhouse: Drop-in audio chat Don't get me wrong, this app is cool. However, it's zoom without video and better moderation. Why is it so popular? You have to be invited in (OOOOOH!). It is only on iOs (sorry android people) so here again, only certain people can get in, and for those on the outside when you hear others talking about it, you have fear of missing out. Does it work? I'm doing an episode about it knowing that 75% of my audience can't use it.  What Clubhouse is Good For Why I like clubhouse is I'm finding my target audience, and more importantly, my target audience who doesn't know me yet.  Then I can LISTEN, and take notes of what is being discussed and take notes as these might be future episodes.  I have found a few people I want to connect with due to the details in their profiles, and the value they brought if they actually spoke.  Mistakes in Clubhouse If you don't have an answer to a question and someone asks you, just say, "That's a good question that I don't have an answer to." If you don't, often the answer you spew is not helpful and makes you look like an idiot in love with their own voice.  Not filling out your profile with your website, your interests, and keywords to help you get found.  Ask ing a question that is three seconds long followed by self-promotion that is three minutes long.  Most of the true networking happens outside of the app so be sure to check your Twitter and Instagram for DMs. I'm on Android - I Feel Left Out If you look at what clubhouse is at its core is its a group of people (in rooms) that are joining hoping to talk about their favorite subject, meet people, and learn new insights.  So do it on zoom. Reach out to other podcasts like yours and pick a date to all get together on Zoom. Assign a moderator, and promote for weeks in advance.  Everyone and their brother knows how to connect to zoom. The goal here is not to get podcast ready quality (cause the quality on Clubhouse is "ok"), but more the connection.  There are also other tools like Slack, Discord. There are tools like Mastodon where you can setup your own social media network.  There will be Copycats - There Always Is Twitter Spaces is coming The issue with Android (from what I understand) is while all the different phones are running Android operating systems, there is enough differences between phone manufacturers to create headaches for app developers.  Android Apps Like Clubhouse Connect Club ( maybe? it shows a Google Play Version) Bag Chat This is either another clubhouse or something creepy Michael Stelzner's Awesome Clubhouse Tutorial Great tutorial see https://youtu.be/o7gv7U-rZl8 How Are You Pulling Clubhouse Into Your Podcast? First, this is not entirely compliant with their terms of service. Their terms say I need written permission from participants. I make a notice in the show name, the show description, and when I pull someone on the stage, I ask for their permission to record them. This is still not written, but it is verbal. Please remember, I'm a teacher - not a lawyer.  These Devices Make It Easy The Zoom Podtrak P4 ($200) The Zoom Podtrak P8 ($499) The Rodecaster Pro ($599) How? All of these make it super easy to connect a phone. I have three things in my Ask the Podcast Coach. I have myself, clubhouse, and a co-host.  I plug my microphone (RE320) into the Rodecaster. I plug my iPhone (via a connector) into a TRRS cable that goes into the Rodecaster.  When I connect the Rodecaster via USB I am able to send and receive audio to my cohost who I connect with via Streamyard. Everybody can hear everyone.  Using Streamyard. I stream live to my YouTube Channel. I record on the Rodecaster using the separate tracks option (as the audio from clubhouse can have a wide variance).  See video https://youtu.be/BsG9UD6nzlE I Almost Lose 15 Years of My Podcast I had my WD 4 Terabyte crash and with it 15 years of podcasting files (all my sound effects, artwork, music, EVERYTHING). It was going to cost me between $700-$1000 to have someone rescue my Drive. Luckily I use Backblaze who walked me through. I am paying $189 to have them save all my files (which are online) to a hard drive and ship it to me. Then I will copy my files to a new hard drive and then ship their hard drive back. I will then be refunded the $189.  Backblaze is my hero. For more details on this story, see this video.  Because Of My Podcast - I'm Staying Sane Josh from the Saving Elephants podcast sent in a "Because of My Podcast" story and shares how during the trying times of covid, and elections, and protests, he feels podcasting to be a powerful platform for alleviating the symptoms of depression. It's been wonderful to be able to talk to so many like-minded people from all over the country and even the world to have important meaningful conversations. The podcast provides Josh with a platform where he feels like He's not a helpless bystander forced to do nothing more than complain about the lack of substance and civility and depth in our national political dialogue. Instead, through the podcast, he feels like an active participant in that conversation.  He is grateful for podcasting for providing me this platform. podcasting has been for me, a real lifesaver. Got a Because of My Podcast Story? Let me hear it at www.schoolofpodcasting.com/contact Dog Podcast Network - Liftoff! Today we connect with James who shares what "Launch week" felt like and how he is feeling now that Dog Edition is officially available to the public. One thing I did was make a video of me listening to it (before it was published) James found this very useful as he could tell if jokes were landing, and the extra body language. If you're launching a podcast you might want to throw a listening party on zoom so you can watch your "focus group" as they listen.  James is still giving away $5000 on the Dog Podcast Network Work With Dave With 15 years in podcasting and decades helping people harness technology, I love helping people plan, launch, grow and monetize their podcast. Here are some ways I can help School of Podcasting - tutorials, networking group, and live group coaching. 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Would you like 300,000 downloads per episode? Are you willing to work for three weeks to get media exposure in 2% of the outlets you contact? Are you willing to work for months on your first episodes and ask others to give you HONEST feedback on your show? Are you willing to ask questions that might potentially show you that your show is boring? Jack has, and he has created a great show. Today on episode 758 of the School of Podcasting I have the honor of looking into how Jack has grown his Darknet Diaries podcast. Jack was looking for a podcast about hackers/hacking and couldn't find any (especially in a narrative format). The solution? Create the podcast YOU want to hear and see if anyone else would be interested in listening to your podcast.   Jack Rhysider's Favorite Marketing Books Make Noise: A Creator's Guide to Podcasting and Great Audio Storytelling Purple Cow: Transform Your Business by Being Remarkable - Seth Godin Gary Vaynerchuk Traction: How Any Startup Can Achieve Explosive Customer Growth -Gabriel Wineberg Superfans: The Easy Way to Stand Out, Grow Your Tribe, And Build a Successful Business - Pat Flynn Dave added: Will it Fly Pat Flynn Connect with Jack Darknet Diaries Lime.Link Podcast Blog Jack's Patreon Page Dog Podcast Network Final Week Before Launch The Dog Podcast Network is launching a new show on their network called "Dog Edition" and today we talk with James Jacobson about the final preparations. You can earn money sharing stories that include dogs.  TIMELINE 00:03:34 How Many Downloads Does Jack Get 00:04:44 Jack's Launch 00:07:04 Jack Sent Out a Survey 00:08:03 What Part is Boring? 00:08:37 Why Did You Use a Survey? 00:10:01 Negative Feedback 00:10:30 Do have any kind of focus group? 00:10:59 How do you find these stories? 00:12:58 Your Podcast On Auto Pilot 00:15:03 How did your early listeners find you? 00:16:36 10,000 Stickers in a day 00:17:30 Reaching Out to the Media 00:20:10 How long did this strategy take? 00:21:33 How Long Had You Been Blogging? 00:22:34 Secret Weapon: Your Attitude 00:23:06 Marketing Strategies 00:23:57 Early Monetization 00:25:32 How Long Did it Take to Go Full Time 00:26:16 How Did You Grow Your Numbers 00:26:54 Don't Gloss Over Your Ask 00:27:16 How Did You Know It Was Time to Start a Patreon? 00:27:56 Deep Dive Into Patreon 00:32:20 Using Castbox as a Benchmark 00:34:29 The Curiosity Headline Approach 00:37:52 He Has Good Descriptions 00:40:03 A Deep Dive Into The Apple Charts 00:43:20 Favorite Marketing Books 00:45:49 Is there any Downside to a large audience? 00:48:57 Jack Got Tracked 00:50:53 Meeting Fans With Divulging Your Identity 00:51:51 Advice For Wanna Be Podcasters 00:56:19 Dog Podcast Network 01:02:02 Please Share The Show Mentioned In This Episode Graphtreon - See how much people are making on Patreon What Was That Like Podcast Dave's Patreon Page Episode on Podcast Surveys Castbox app Subscribe to the School of Podcasting Podcast (free) School of Podcasting Affiliate Program Podcast Rodeo Show Podcast Review Show Podcast Consulting Join the School of Podcasting

If Ron Howard Uses Focus Groups... Ron Howard has been in the entertainment industry since he was a little boy on the Andy Griffith Show, Later he was on Happy Days and since then has been making phenomenal movies. He's been nominated for 114 awards and won 39 times for a percentage of 34%, In 2002 he won with A Beautiful Mind for Best Picture and Best Director. One might say, "Not too shabby." Rob was on the true stories show on Satelite radio talking about always screens his movies and checks in with the audience to see how the content is connecting with his audience. In the interview, he said, "We did our first previews, and I was so defensive about it and against it, and I wound up learning so many important truths about our story, that to this day, even the Beatles documentary, even though I have Final Cut, I screened the movies and I know how to ask the questions and I ask people to fill out questionnaires. I find it very, very useful. It's difficult but I always think that it's like the playwright getting to see the show out of town before you take it to Broadway. I don't think it's really any different than that. I have the confidence of having done it a lot, and the power of Final Cut, so that this is about me understanding how the movie works. It's comforting on the one hand, but I think it's really important to understand how the movie is communicating with an audience. That's what entertainment is: Is something is communicated to you and do you enjoy it? Why Podcasters Skip The Focus Group If this is your first podcast, you probably spent much more time on their episodes than they originally planned, so the last thing you want to hear is that you need to go back and do some work. While understandable, if the goal is to grow your podcast, constructive feedback is something that is essential to growing your podcast. Most of us are familiar with the story of Thomas Edison doing 1000 attempts at the light bulb that didn't work. When asked about it these "failures" Edison replied, "I didn’t fail 1,000 times. The light bulb was an invention with 1,000 steps." In some cases, people see their episode as art. If that is you, then skip this episode. Your goal is to not grow your audience but to just put the podcast out there. The podcast is not for your audience. It's for you. Just Like Your Podcast, Creating Your Survey Starts With Why Today you will hear from Glenn the Geek who runs the Horse Radio Network. His primary income is sponsorship and a membership site. We will hear from Scott Johnson from the What Was That Like? podcast that has been steadily growing since it launched. Scott was looking for feedback on his content. The Process of Creating a Survey Identify why you're doing your survey (and what you're trying to learn) Choose your questions Deliver your survey Collect your feedback Organize your data and look for trends Implement changes based on feedback. Follow up to ensure you've achieved your goal. Potential Questions Demographics: This is where you ask age, sex, income. Where they hang out: Where else do they get information like yours? What other podcasts, forums, magazines, etc do they consume? By knowing where your audience is you can go to where they are and make friends. Content Questions: How long do they listen? Favorite parts of the show? Parts they wish would be different? Audio quality? The top thing they've gained from listening? Advertising Questions: Have you purchased any products from sponsors on this show? Who do you think would be a good sponsor? Do you skip the ads? What was the last thing you purchased? If You're Just Launching Take the episode you feel is ready for the public and get specific. As about the audio quality, and how far people listened. If they say they listened to the whole thing, give them a quiz to prove it. If they didn't listen far found out why. There is no sense going any further until you get your content resonating with your audience. Special Thanks to: Scott Johnson from What Was That Like? (a great podcast) Glenn Hebert from the Horse Radio Network Jack Rhysider from the Darknet Diaries (Check out  episode 27 about hacking the Apple Charts) James from the Dog Podcast Network Need Help With Your Podcast? If you need help with: Planning Launching Growing Monetizing Troubleshooting Gear Selection It is all there at the School of Podcasting Mentioned in this Podcast Video on Using Google Forms episode 27 of Darknet Diaries about hacking Apple Charts Profit From Your Podcast Book on Monetizing Your Podcast School of Podcasting  - Plan, Launch, and Grow Your Podcast

It's the first episode of the years and in the same that I have the last episode of the year look at why people listen, today we talk about how to start. Ten Years ago I did an episode called "27 steps to launch a podcast and today I am going to update it. As you might imagine things have changed in 10 years. If you already have a podcast I have some items for you. Over the years there have been some ingredients of podcasting that we know add value, but like any recipe, if you use an ingredient in the wrong way you can ruin the final product. Keep it Real I hear the phrase, "Keep it real." This should stay authentic. You should be talking from your heart and your beliefs. Don't say what people want to hear because it's popular, if your opinion differs let's hear it. Let's also hear why you believe those thoughts. We just might learn something.How this phrase is abused is when "keeping it real" means I'm not going to edit my podcast at all. There are editors who work in movies, television, books, magazines, and newspapers. However, your podcast is perfect with no room for improvement. There is always room for improvement.I read on Facebook where someone took 26 minutes to answer ONE question. The final version of the podcast had that answer trimmed to four minutes. Fishing is Boring I haven't fished in 20 years. If you're into fishing check out the Fish Nerds show with Clay Groves. For me, half the fun was getting to play with a boat and get out on a lake. In some cases, if the boat had a motor it was even more fun. Then you bait your hook, throw your line in and wait. Then you wait some more. This part of fishing is really boring.Every time I hear someone start off an interview with "Tell me a little bit about yourself," the person is fishing. They are listening just like watching their bobber float on the lake, looking for a nibble. Reeling in a Fish is Exciting I don't watch fishing on TV, but if I'm clicking through the channels and a fishing show is on, they don't show two people in a boat watching their bobber. They show someone standing up with excitement as they have caught a great fish and they are bringing it into the boat.When you have a guest and you find something that YOU KNOW is going to RESONATE with your audience that's exciting and in the same the fisherman does everything they can to get the fish into the boat, you do everything you can to get that content into your recording. Stories are Great Half the time we ask, "tell me a little bit about yourself" we are fishing for a story. Somehow we are lead to believe that knowing someone's back story is going to help us. If I started my podcast with "Today we are going to interview Gern Blanston who has a proven strategy of growing your audience by 200%, but first, let's find out what his parents did for a living..." you would be yelling at your device to get to the good stuff.Stories are great when someone shares a story that we can learn from, or it makes you laugh, cry, think, groan, or educates us or entertains us.When I was sixteen years one night I was trying to look cool in front of a girl and climbed a sign at the front of the mall that showed the names of the movies in its three theaters. We figured out that we could change the title "Desperately Seeking Susan" to Desperately Sucking Suzan. As I was a hard rock fan, I was not a fan of Madonna and thought this would be hilarious. It took some effort to get up there, and once up there changing letters was not as easy as it looked. In the end, the sign read Desperately Seeting Susan. Is this real? Yes. Is it a story? Yes. Does it help you with your podcast? No.Just because something is real and it's a story, doesn't mean it's good. It might be really boring.The story of Glenn the Geek from the Horse Radio Network asking to get a booth at the largest Horsing Event was a great story as it has helped many people grow their podcast. Fishing Takes Patience - And We Live in a Microwave Society People want good stuff. They want the band whose name is on the ticket (skip the warm-up act). GET TO THE GOOD STUFF.Tell a four-year-old kid you brought them candy and then tell them they first have to listen to you recite some Edgar Allen Poe. They will start screaming, "GIVE ME THE CANDY."Netflix just added the ability to speed up movies. If you are watching a series on Netflix, at the end when you click "Go to next episode" it skips the end credits of the current episode and in intro of the next episode. It gets right to the good stuff. Conversations Are Great This is another thing I hear that is taken out of context. What you want to avoid is an interrogation if you are interviewing someone. Just because something is done in a conversational style does not mean it's not boring. All You Need is Consistency People are taking the word consistency and spinning it as "If I just release a show on a consistent basis, I will have success." I see people in Facebook groups saying things like, "I've been podcasting for seven months on a weekly basis, why aren't my numbers higher?" They feel consistency in publishing is the key. It is important. When you publish on a regular, predictable basis, you become part of their routine.HOWEVER:What really matters is consistency in delivering value. I remember Jason Sudekis from Saturday Night Live. Troy Heinritz from the blacklist exposed told me the show LEd Lasso on HBO was really good (notice word of mouth) and so I check it out and Troy was right. I then saw Jason had a movie called Kodachrome on Netflix. The movie was predictable, but again the acting of Jason Sudekis was impressive. Consequently, I would watch another Jason Sudekis movies because he was in it. The same goes for the actor Paul Giamatti who I originally saw in Howard Stern's private parts. He is an amazing actor.I love John Cusak movies from the '80s. I loved behind John Malcovich cause it was so outside the box. Something happened and John's movies started being more and more "Meh" and while I'm still a fan, it's not automatic that I will watch a movie because John is in it.When it comes to with consistency it boils down to this, I would rather have a GREAT episode one day late, instead of a "Meh" episode on time. How To Start a Podcast in 2021 Know why you're starting a podcast Know your audience What can you talk about to hold the attention of the WHO and get them to do your WHY. Determine your format Purchase your equipment Practice recordings and get to know your gear Identify your Intro and Outro Record an episode that you feel is good enough for the public Get feedback from trustworthy people Get artwork Order Media Hosting Create Your Website Submit your show to directories (all of them) Join The School of Podcasting The School of Podcasting has step-by-step tutorials that walk you through all these steps along with lessons on making great content, growing your audience, and monetizing your show. You can join worry-free. Join and if you're not happy within the first 30 days, I will refund your money. JOIN TODAY Mentioned In This Show Fish Nerds PodcastBlacklist ExposedHorse Radio NetworkGlenn the Geek EpisodesPodpage (take the free class on Podpage)Podcast BrandingSecond Line ThemesCooler Websites Web HostingSocial Subscribe and Follow PluginPodcasting ResourcesJoin The School of PodcastingPodcast Consulting 

Every year I ask my audience what their favorite podcast is and why it is their favorite. They can also plug their website. This exercise then helps us understand why people tune in, as well as hear about some great podcasts.  In general, I say good content will make us: Laugh Cry Think Groan Educate Entertain So pay attention and here how most of these shows are not just doing one of those, but multiple emotions and strategies. Timeline 01:26 Dave love Podnews.net 03:16 Steve Stewart from the Money Plan SOS loves the Stacking Benjamins Show (Steve was just on Episode 752 talking about his Podcast Editor Academy) 05:59 Joe Saul Sehy from Stacking Benjamins loves the Be Our Guest Podcast 09:10 Shane from the Spybrary Podcast  loves the Ask the Podcast Coach  show 11:03 Anthony from the Route 66 Podcast loves the Space Shot 13:32 Bill watches movies - The Secret History of Hollywood 16:10 Brandon from The Florida Focus Podcast - The Art of Manliness 17:18 Craig from InglesPodcast lovesThe Week Unwrapped 20:02 Glen from Caratere Books  loves the 20 thousand hz 21:00  CG from the Rocketry Show also loves 20 thousand hz and Invisibilia with Roman Mars 23:49 Harris from Wild Talk love Revisionist History 25:20 Gary from the Content Gardener Loves the Disrupt Yourself from Whitney Johnson 26:24 Kevin from Grow the Show loves Three Clips 27:27 Patrick from the Big Seance podcast loves Straight Talk with Ross Mathews 28:26 Letitia from Rooted and Overflowing loves the Productive Woman 29:27 Geoge Excelsier journey's podcast loves Saturday Night Movie Sleep Over 30:17 Effie Parks from Once Upon a Gene loves the Jordan Harbinger Show 32:51 Louis Love Thy Lawyer loves All the President's Lawyers 33:57 Scott from What Was That Like loves Bill Gates and Rasheda Jones Ask Big Questions 35:52 Scott from the Amazing Maine podcast loves the Riskory podcast. 37:31 Scott from Moving Forward Leadership loves Habs Unfiltered 40:11 Sufeah loves the 85 South Show 41:04 Greg from Indie Dropin Network loves Just N/A Science 42:53 Kim from Beekeeping Today loves Revive Our Hearts 44:30 Zita from Ritual Recipes loves the Wedding Ceremony Podcast  Homework: Pretend Your A Listener 46:43 In some cases I had to go looking for these podcasts and in some of those cases it wasn't easy. My advice for you is to go to Google and search for the name of your show "podcast."  In many cases people sign up and their media host (because they don't know your website) will use the built in website that comes with their hosting. Look for the "website" field and make sure it points at your website. If you don't have a website (one of these shows had a .podwits address - classy) the go buy a domain at www.coolerwebsites.com and point it the site you are using (and preserve your first impression).  Dog Podcast Network Update 48:55 I'm following the launch of the podcast network. In the past they have solicited stories for their contest, hired a producer. In this segment, we hear their trailer and learn about their press release. Check them out at www.dogpodcastnetwork.com End of Show 52:36 Let Me Help You 53:58 Bloopers  

We know that when you give value, your audience can feel like they "owe you" and when you give them the opportunity they will return the favor. Today we hear about a covert operation pulled off to deliver a box of presents to Glenn the Geek Hebert of the Horse Radio Network as he was recovering from not one but TWO surgeries. The story is amazing. We also have a tool to reward your superfans for sharing your show with their friends. We also catch up with the Dog Podcast Network. Glenn the Geek's Audience Comes to the Rescue Glenn had cancer removed from his colon (and needs to kemo - get your colonoscopy), and ended up getting an infection in his body that got very, very, serious. He ended up having his gallbladder removed and was down for the count (losing thirty pounds in four weeks). 01:32 Gleen The Geek Got Really Sick 04:05 Glenn's Supporters Came to the Rescue 06:27 How They Organized The Surprise 07:51 Let People Return the Favor 09:33 Have a Backup Plan 14:21 You Audience Feels Like They Know You Another Example of Building and Audience Taking Three Years 15:37 Erik Johnson of bumblecast.fm shares on the "Audience" podcast how his already famous client with a social following still took three years to build their audience. SPONSOR: School of Podcasting 16:45 Join today and be worry-free. Learn to sound great, create great content, and join the free mastermind with other brilliant podcasters as you go through the step by step tutorials, and get your questions answered at the Live Group Coaching calls. Go to www.schoolofpodcasting.com/start If you just have a few questions, schedule a coaching call. Build Your Own Ambassador Program With Refer.fm 17:40 Today we talk with Amira Valliani of Glow the makers of refer.fm a tool where you get to pick your own rewards, and you get a landing page where people can get their own unique link and refer.fm tracks the number of people they refer to your podcast. You get notified with the name and email person of the “super fan” who wants to refer their friends (they are stored in a spreadsheet making it easy to import into your system) and when they reach a goal you are notified. You can see my page for the School of Podcasting at refer.fm/schoolofpodcasting Dog Podcast Network Update: A Producer has been hired James Jacobson has hired a producer to help put his ideas into action as he is still collecting dog stories at www.dopodcastnetwork.com/101 and he hopes to have a great trailer next week to start promoting his flagship show launching in January. Keep in mind that you can always change your trailer (description, artwork, and more) any time you want with no consequences. Mentioned In This Episode Carey Green gets 8600 downloads per episode Horse Radio Network School of Podcasting Profit From Your Podcast Book Dog Podcast Network Earn points referring the School of Podcasting refer.fm/schoolofpodcasting There is also the School of Podcasting Affiliate program

When I searched for the word "Random" in a podcast directory, there were over 50 shows, with many of them talking about "whatever." Today I'm going to share why I think this is a bad idea and how being focused has help Carey Green get 8000+ downloads per episode for his Morning Mindset Daily Christian Devotional podcast.  How I've Seen Random Fail As a teacher for decades, I can say I've seen how humans are not fans of change. They like things to stay the same and be predictable. As a musician, I saw establishments that had comedy on Monday, Metal on Tuesday, Country on Wednesday.... in trying to have something for everyone, they alienated everyone as you never know what night it was.  I had a dog for 14 years, and for many years all of my friends made up their own nickname. The dog heard random name after random name. Consequently, he wouldn't come when you called him as he had not connected with his actual name.  The Power of the Niche On the Podcast Review Show (where you can get TWO consultants' insights for the price of one), Jason Sacco from the Ankylosing Spondylitis show shared how this podcast is attracting people who have this disease. This brings HUGE relief as many people have nobody to talk to who truly understands what it's like to have this pain-causing disease.  Jaspon has a focused niche, but that doesn't stamp out all creativity. He has been trying some live roundtables and hopes to continue to grow his audience as he moves forward. While Jason would like to monetize his show, currently building the community and the lack of feeling alone is quite a bonus already.  He has also been getting some press for his show.  Carey Green Gets to 8600 Downloads Per Episode  Carey Green hosts The Morning Mindset Daily Christian Devotional. When I hear about people with large amounts of downloads in just a few years (Carey is just under three years), I typically wonder if they had a large social following, email list, or built-in audience. In Carey's case, he had none of those. Here are some key points we covered in our interview: 20:10 Carey Green Getting 8600 Per Episode 21:43 Why Carey Started His Show 23:17 Daily Podcast Tips 24:34 Dealing With Haters 25:36 Polarizing People 25:59 Feedback From the Audience 26:58 Giving Your Audience What They Want 27:43 What Makes His Show Different 28:21 Starting a Premium Podcast 29:56 How is He Marketing His Show? 31:20 A Better Call To Action 32:05 Your Back Episodes in Stats 32:33 The One Different Thing 33:11 Teach Your Audience Your Slogan 35:43 Promoting the Show is Key 37:31 Carey Starts a Non-Profit 40:00 The Importance of Integrity What About Jordan Harbinger? Isn't His Show Filled With Random Guests? 40:54 If you listen to Jordan Harbinger's show opening, it sounds like he's just interviewing random interesting people. He mentions, "astronauts and entrepreneurs, spies in psychologists," which sounds like many random people. However, all those people are used to cover the topic of becoming a better critical thinker.  You Can Have Predictable Randomness Both Carey and Jordan do something different on Friday. While this is a different format than other episodes, by doing it in a consistent, predictable fashion, the audience can adapt. Jordan has mentioned that his "Feedback Friday" episodes are top-rated, and Carey's longer Prayer episodes were built on his audience's requests.  Getting Your Audience Subscribing and Returning For More When you deliver a message that the audience can identify with and say, oh, wow, that person really gets me, or I can use this information to transform myself and achieve that success. They're going to connect with you, and when they hear the call of a new episode, unlike my lovable little shi-Tzu Dudley, they are going to come running back to subscribe for more. The Launch of the Dog Podcast Network 12:15 I will be interviewing James Jacobson (a consulting client of mine) who is launching the Dog Podcast Network. Currently, James is running the 101 Dog Stories Contest. Submit your 5-15 minute segment to win a place in 101 Dog Stories, and you could win our grand prize of $5,000 USD. (Up to one hundred winners will take home $100 each.) It's pretty simple to enter the 101 Dog Stories Contest. Just record your very best dog-angle story and submit! Simple, not necessarily easy: your best dog-adjacent story should be polished, fully produced packages that are ready for broadcast. We're not taking pitches; we're taking up to 101 segments. Do your best work, and be proud of it before you submit! Check it out at www.dogpodcastnetwork.com/101  Start Your Podcast Today I would love to help you create a podcast that connects with our audience, makes you sound professional, positions yourself as an expert, and gets your message out on a global scale. You don't have to spend a million bucks to sound like a million bucks.  Join the School of Podcasting today Mentioned In This Episode Episode 752 with Steve and Mark The Morning Mindset Daily Christian Devotional Dog Podcast Network Ankylosing Spondylitis Podcast Jordan Harbinger Join the School of Podcasting Schedule a Podcast Coaching Call  

Today we talk with Mark and Steve from the Podcast Editor Academy. While there are other resources that dive deep into audio, this website covers audio editing and goes deep into the "growing your editing business" side. If you're wondering how you get clients? They have sales scripts and insights from over 6000 editors. You don't have to know everything there is to know about audio to be an editor, and this website can help you start and grow a podcast editing service. My Favorite Podcast Is - DEADLINE December 14th, 2020 02:30 Every year the last episode of the year is made up of listeners (like you) sharing what their favorite podcast is and why (and be sure to mention your podcast as well). The deadline is December 14th, 2020 (next Monday) as it takes me some time to edit them all together. Go to www.schoolofpodcasting.com/question Podcast Editor Academy Founders Steve Stewart and Mark Deal Mark Deal has been helping businesses (especially lawyers) out of Atlanta and is the head of Podcast Atlanta (a HUGE group of podcasters). Steve Stewart started a financial podcast and started editing his friend's podcasts. This lead to another friend, and another friend which lead to Steve putting his podcast on pause and doing editing full time. He wanted a Facebook group that only talked about post-production so he created one (see http://podcasteditors.club/ ). Please note that the power of this group is it is clearly defined what they will (and more importantly will not ) talk about in the group. This makes it stand out from other groups, and it is growing at a rapid rate. The Podcast Editor Academy started with a conference of editors and continues to grow with special speakers, presentations, and roundtables. When I logged in, I was impressed with the smooth transition of content and resources. If your not sure if you should join the Podcast Editor Academy or Podcast Engineering School. Join the Academy as there is a HUGE discount for the Podcast Engineering School that will pay for the price of the Academy. So you could start with the Academy, and then if needed take a deep dive into audio using the discount for the Engineering School (along with many other discounts). If you want to start small, join the Facebook group and see what the discussions are like, and then joined the Academy when you're ready and keep up to date by signing up for their newsletter. Audio Editing Survey I'm thinking of launching my own editing service (or maybe include it as part of a package). As I always talk about giving your audience what they want, I need to know what you want when it comes to an audio editor (so I can decide if I want to pursue this or not). There is a chance to win a $25 Amazon gift card. Go to www.audioeditingservice.com YouTube Video: Set it and Regret it? If you're using a "show player" from your media host, did you know you're not using blog posts for episodes you are missing a TON of Google Juice and SEO? Check out this video. Podpage Updates I interviewed Breden from Podpage back on episode 728 and since then there have been some new features added: Added a "host section" that sows bios of host(s) Added a guest(s) feature so you can see all the guests who have been on the show Added a store to sell products from different resources Added episode signature where you can add text/images/links that appear at the end of every episode. Update it in one place and it updates your website everywhere. SEE DEMO OF EPISODE SIGNATURES Want to see more tutorials on Podpage? Join my free class at www.schoolofpodcasting.com/learnpodpage Start Podcasting Join the School of Podcasting and get access to step by step tutorials, a mastermind of brilliant podcasting minds, live group coaching, and priority email access to me.  Go to www.schoolofpodcasting.com/start Podcast Mentorship Program Looking to get started quickly check out the three-month mentoring program with full access to the School of Podcasting with additional one on one consulting. see https://www.theschoolofpodcasting.com/bundles/podcast-quick-start Got Podcast Questions? Schedule a coaching call and get your questions answered quickly, and get going in the right direction.