
The Next Movement
Dedicated to preserving hip-hop culture, each episode of The Next Movement examines a classic/influential album and the wide range of its impact. With the help of a guest, Rob and E. shine a light on the art and swap stories about what each album has given us and our communities. Tune in to hear unique and relevant perspectives on a culture that continues to change the world.
Latest episodes

Jan 26, 2022 • 1h 30min
MM...FOOD (feat. Small Professor)
Philadelphia native Small Professor joins us to talk about his production on the latest Career Crooks album Never at Peace, his Jawn series of instrumentals, BLUu Edwards with Curly Castro, and ‘86 Witness with the late Sean Price. Then he gives us his take on DOOM’s masterpiece MM...FOOD.

Jan 12, 2022 • 1h 36min
Stress: The Extinction Agenda (feat. J Scienide)
Rapper/producer J Scienide chats with us about his upcoming project called KAPUT as well as 2021 projects “Somebody’s Paradise,” “Enough to Plague a Saint” with Body Bag Ben, and “Stray From the Pack” with Kev Brown. Then J Scienide tells us why Organized Konfusion’s second LP “Stress: The Extinction Agenda” is one of his favorite albums.

Dec 22, 2021 • 2h 6min
End of Year 2021 (feat. Crate 808)
Let’s do this End of Year episode! Continuing a tradition we started last year, when we teamed up with the good dudes at Serious Rap Sh*t, we’re bringing you a super duper pod collab. This time around Kam from the Crate 808 Podcast joins us to talk about our favorite albums of the year. No rankings. No awards. No “Bests”. Just some of the music we loved (because it’s impossible to talk about it all!)

Dec 15, 2021 • 1h 1min
Done By The Forces Of Nature (feat. Blockhead)
Fun conversation with Blockhead, the prolific producer who recently dropped a full length LP called "Garbology" with long time collaborator Aesop Rock. We talked with Blockhead about his working relationship with Aesop, and the process of creating Garbology as well as Blockhead's approach to making his solo music. Then we discuss Blockhead's album pick for this episode - Done By The Forces Of Nature - the underrated sophomore album from the Native Tongues founding Jungle Brothers.

Dec 8, 2021 • 1h 35min
Midnight Marauders (feat. Pecue)
Producer/visual artist and West Philly native Pecue joins us to talk about his recent instrumental project “Excursions” and the design work he’s done over the past couple of years for other artists such as Skrewtape, Zilla Rocca, Brainorchestra, Eddie Kane and more. Then we reminisce over Pecue’s album pick for this episode - the 1993 masterpiece from A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders.

Nov 24, 2021 • 58min
potato (feat. Semiratruth)
Artist Semiratruth joins us to talk about her most recent project I GOT BANDZ FOR THE MOONLANDIN’. And of course we talk about her album pick for this episode, which is from an artist that we had never heard of before but we hope you’ll find as entertaining as we have - J’Von and his project “potato” are the subject of the second half of our episode.

Nov 10, 2021 • 1h 9min
Like Water for Chocolate (feat. maticulous)
Producer maticulous joins us with a behind the scenes look at his new album “no caps” which features an incredible lineup of emcees including Kev Brown, J. Scienide, Skyzoo, Justo the MC, Breeze Brewin’, Guilty Simpson, Uptown XO, yU, Ill Conscious and more. Then maticulous gives us his take on a Soulquarian classic and Common’s breakthrough success - Like Water for Chocolate.

Oct 27, 2021 • 1h 14min
R.A.P. Music (feat. Alaska and Jason Griff)
Alaska and Jason Griff join us to talk about their dark take on pandemic America “Human Zoo”. You know Alaska from Atoms Fam, Hanger 18, and co-host of the Call Out Culture Podcast. And you know Jason Griff as the producer behind the late Scorcese, Alex Ludovico, Insubordinate Records, and the full length “Fireside Chats” from earlier this year. We talk with the two of them about what went into Human Zoo and one of their favorite albums - Killer Mike’s R.A.P. Music.

Oct 13, 2021 • 1h 55min
Uptown Saturday Night (feat. Zilla Rocca)
On the three year anniversary of the pod we welcome back our very first guest, South Philly native Zilla Rocca. The emcee, beat maker, Wrecking Crew member, and Call Out Culture Podcast co-host talks with us about his latest project Vegas Vic and breaks down one of his favorite albums - Camp Lo’s Uptown Saturday Night.

Sep 29, 2021 • 1h 11min
Donuts (feat. Matteo Urella)
Author Matteo Urella joins us to discuss his recently published book “Deep in the Dark with the Art” - a collection of conversations with the creators behind the best cover art of Wu-Tang Clan and their affiliates. We’ll talk about the process of compiling this book, some of the stories that were revealed by its contributors, and we’ll ask Matteo about one of his favorite non-Wu affiliated albums - J Dilla’s opus Donuts.