
The Next Movement
Dedicated to preserving hip-hop culture, each episode of The Next Movement examines a classic/influential album and the wide range of its impact. With the help of a guest, Rob and E. shine a light on the art and swap stories about what each album has given us and our communities. Tune in to hear unique and relevant perspectives on a culture that continues to change the world.
Latest episodes

Jun 12, 2024 • 1h 9min
The Mouse and The Mask (feat. S!LENCE)
S!LENCE is from Brooklyn (actually from there) and he has a new project called "Aguadura". He describes it as the spiritual sequel to his 2021 release "mutatis mutandis" and we talked with him about some of the themes from the album. Then we discuss his album pick for this episode - "The Mouse and The Mask" from DANGERDOOM.
Purchase "Aguardura" here:
https://www.breakallrecords.world/product/aguadura

May 29, 2024 • 1h 9min
Doris (feat. Shabaka)
Hip hop and jazz music have an intimate relationship. That’s been true since the beginning. Our next guest is Shabaka Hutchings and while he might be a jazz musician, he is also a hip hop head who thoughtfully integrates his preferences into his most recent project “Perceive Its Beauty, Acknowledge Its Grace”. The album is also his first as a flute player, an instrument he went to exceptional lengths to become familiar with. He is joined on the project by incredible artists such as Saul Williams, Carlos Niño, Laraaji, Esperanza Spalding, Brandee Younger and Floating Points. It’s also the only place where you’ll find both Andre 3000 and E L U C I D as featured guests. We talked with Shabaka about all of the above and we discussed his album pick for this episode - “Doris” by Earl Sweatshirt.
Purchase "Perceive Its Beauty, Acknowledge Its Grace" directly from Impulse Records

May 15, 2024 • 58min
To Tha X-Treme (feat. Ronesh)
Ronesh (rapper/producer) recently released a project featuring 25 different emcees including artists like Open Mike Eagle, Che Noir, Defcee, Big $ilky, and Myka 9. The album is called "Lead the Orchestra" and Ronesh produced all 12 tracks while contributing vocals to the song "Galaxy Brain". We spoke with Ronesh about the task of assembling this project and then we discussed his album pick for this episode - "To Tha X-Treme" from Devin the Dude.
Stream and purchase "Lead the Orchestra" here:
https://ronesh.bandcamp.com/album/lead-the-orchestra

May 1, 2024 • 1h 6min
Labcabincalifornia (feat. Rhys Langston)
L.A.'s Rhys Langston joins us to talk about his new project entitled "Polyglot on Chloroform". It's produced entirely by Steel Tipped Dove, who also engineered and mixed the project, taking control of aspects of the album creation process that Rhys typically prefers to handle himself. We talked to Rhys about giving over this control, the album's loose concept, and loads more. Then we discuss his album pick for this episode - "Labcabincalifornia" from The Pharcyde.
Stream and purchase "Polyglot on Chloroform" here:
https://rhyslangston.bandcamp.com/album/polyglot-on-chloroform

Apr 17, 2024 • 45min
Extinction Level Event (feat. Cakes Da Killa)
We’re joined by Cakes Da Killa to talk about his new project “Black Sheep” which features Cakes rhyming over a diverse array of sound. We asked Cakes about the influence and inspiration that house music provided for the album, the freedom that he’s found in not giving a fuck, the comfortable creative relationship he has with producer Sam Katz and much more. Then we discuss his album pick for this episode - “Extinction Level Event: The Final World Front” by Busta Rhymes.
Stream and purchase "Black Sheep" here:
https://cakesdakilla.bandcamp.com/album/black-sheep

Apr 3, 2024 • 49min
Welcome 2 Detroit (feat. Ol' Burger Beats)
Oslo based producer Ol' Burger Beats released "74:Out of Time" in February on Coalmine Records. Each track on the project was produced at 74 beats per minute and is deeply inspired by the jazz records of 1974. It's a unique concept with an impressive list of guest emcee's including lojii, Ill Camille, Vic Spencer, billy woods, Pink Siifu, YUNGMORPHEUS, Quelle Chris, Gabe 'Nandez, and Fly Anakin. We spoke with Ol' Burger Beats about the inspiration for this project and his approach to working with his collaborators. Then we talked about his album pick for this episode - "Welcome 2 Detroit" by J Dilla.
Stream and purchas "74:Out of Time" here:
https://coalminerecords.bandcamp.com/

Mar 20, 2024 • 1h 17min
6 Feet Deep (feat. NAHreally and The Expert)
NAHreally and The Expert have teamed up for an album called "BLIP" that is set to be released by Rucksack Records on March 29th. We spoke to them about the simple yet powerful lyrics/sounds on this project and discussed the process they used to create one of the most relatable albums we have heard in recent memory. Then we discuss their album pick for this episode - "6 Feet Deep" from Gravediggaz.
Purchase "BLIP" here:
https://theexpert.bandcamp.com/album/blip

Mar 6, 2024 • 1h 25min
The W (feat. Cavalier)
Cavalier joins us as he prepares to release his new full length album "Different Type Time" on Backwoodz Studioz. It's been five years since his previous solo release and Cav talked with us about what has contributed to the time between projects, how he came to partner with Backwoodz on the new release, some of the collaborators we can expect to hear on the album, and the unique nature of this particular project. Plus, we talked about his joint project with Quelle Chris "Black Cottonwood", his "Bring Back Weed Spots" line of hoodies, and much more. Then we discuss his album pick for this episode - Wu-Tang Clan's third group album "The W".

Feb 21, 2024 • 1h 16min
The College Dropout (feat. Angry Blackmen)
Angry Blackmen is a duo from Chicago who released their latest project "The Legend of ABM" in late January. The project has a unique industrial sound, equally inspired by Nine Inch Nails as it was by the Bomb Squad, over which Brian and Quentin spit urgent bars about their personal lives and larger social struggles. We spoke with the duo about the process of writing this project, their success in balancing the political and the personal, and much more. Then we'll talk about a project from another Chicago native - Kanye West's debut album "The College Dropout".
Stream and purchase 'The Legend of ABM" here:

Feb 7, 2024 • 1h 20min
The B.Coming (feat. Reef the Lost Cauze)
Reef the Lost Cauze has a new album called "The Triumphant" and he says that it is the album that he has been trying to make for years. He joined us to talk about the intentional approach he took towards writing and recording it. He described the sometimes painful process he went through to write it and the emphasis that he placed on giving his audience a variety of narratives and perspectives. And he discusses the resilience and hope that is woven throughout the project. We're gonna talk about all that and Reef's album pick for this episode - the third LP from another Philly legend - Beanie Sigel's "The B.Coming".