
The Next Movement
Dedicated to preserving hip-hop culture, each episode of The Next Movement examines a classic/influential album and the wide range of its impact. With the help of a guest, Rob and E. shine a light on the art and swap stories about what each album has given us and our communities. Tune in to hear unique and relevant perspectives on a culture that continues to change the world.
Latest episodes

Jun 3, 2019 • 1h 17min
The Sun Rises in the East
Jeru the Damaja’s debut remains an overlooked classic with pristine production from DJ Premier. Rob and E. examine the creative process behind the album, the importance of its black empowerment, Jeru’s “freaky” flow, and all the beef it set off.

May 13, 2019 • 25min
Concrete Law (feat. Backbone)
This extra special episode was recorded backstage at the Dungeon Family reunion tour on April 24th, 2019 and features an interview with first generation DF member Backbone.

Apr 29, 2019 • 2h 6min
I Phantom (feat. Curly Castro)
Philadelphia transplant Curly Castro is keeping boom-bap alive in the City of Brotherly Love. He drops in to talk about his latest solo offering and a classic Def Jux album that has influenced his trajectory - Mr. Lif’s flawless concept project I Phantom.

Apr 8, 2019 • 1h 20min
The Score
The Fugees released one of the biggest mainstream hip-hop albums of the 90s, with wide commercial appeal and big budget videos. Rob and E. examine the relationships, the repercussions, and the Reality of the Refugee Camp’s recording.

Mar 4, 2019 • 1h 2min
Soul Food
The blues and gospel of Goodie Mob’s first release addressed poverty and pain from a uniquely southern perspective. Rob and E. talk about how they connected with this Dirty South classic.

Feb 4, 2019 • 1h 25min
It’s Dark and Hell is Hot
In 1998 DMX brought hip-hop back to the streets. Rob and E. take a look at how X took over the game, the times when he went too far, and how his debut album brought stardom to a 16-year old producer.

Jan 7, 2019 • 1h 37min
Ironman (feat. Zilla Rocca)
South Philly’s own Zilla Rocca joins Rob and E. to talk about his new solo album, being a working rapper, and to boldly defend Ghostface Killah’s Ironman as better than The Beatles.

Dec 10, 2018 • 1h 27min
End of Year 2018
The Next Movement presents the top 12 albums of 2018. Rob and E. give you their year-end lists and try not to talk about Kanye.

Dec 2, 2018 • 54min
Strictly Business
1988 was jam packed with classic rap albums. What made Strictly Business stand out? In part one of this special two part episode Rob and E. frame up EPMD’s landmark debut.

Nov 5, 2018 • 1h 7min
2Pacalypse Now
Rob and E. break down 2Pac’s first album and discuss its production, its controversy, and its messages on police brutality, racism, poverty, and trauma.