The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
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Oct 7, 2022 • 32min
Defence Deconstructed: Recent Wars and the Lessons for Canada's Army
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry speaks to MGen (ret'd) Denis Thompson about the future of the Canadian Army.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard
Read:
Canada’s 21st Century Army: The Changing Context of Conventional War by Denis Thompson – https://www.cgai.ca/canadas_21st_century_army_the_changing_context_of_conventional_war
CGAI's 2022 Defence and Security Series: https://www.cgai.ca/2022_defence_and_security_series
The Avoidable War by Kevin Rudd – https://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/titles/kevin-rudd/the-avoidable-war/9781541701304/
Participant Bio
Denis Thompson is a CGAI fellow and a retired Major-General from the Canadian Army – https://www.cgai.ca/denis_thompson
Host Bio
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Recording Date: 7 Oct 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Oct 6, 2022 • 39min
Energy Security Cubed: India's International Energy Posture with Swaran Singh
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the recent OPEC+ production cut decision, energy transition in Africa, and a brewing trade dispute over U.S. EV tax credits.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Swaran Singh about India's maneuvering with the neighborhood of powers globally and in the Indo-Pacific.
Guest Bio:
- Swaran Singh is a Visiting Professor at the Department of Political Science, University of British Columbia, and a Professor and former Chair at the Centre for International Politics Organisation and Disarmament, School of International Studies, Jawaharlal Nehru University
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
What is Swaran reading?
- A Life in Diplomacy, by Maharajakrishna Rasgotra: https://www.amazon.com/Life-Diplomacy-Maharajakrishna-Rasgotra/dp/0143447270
- Leadership: Six Studies in World Strategy, by Henry Kissinger: https://www.amazon.ca/Leadership-Six-Studies-World-Strategy/dp/0593489446
Interview recording Date: September 29, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Oct 3, 2022 • 48min
The Global Exchange: Responding to Emergencies
On this episode of the Global Exchange, Colin Robertson talks to CEO of the Red Cross Conrad Sauvé about the work of his organization.
Participant Bio:
Conrad Sauvé is CEO of the Canadian Red Cross – https://www.redcross.ca/about-us/about-the-canadian-red-cross/executive-leadership-team/conrad-sauve
Host bio
Colin Robertson is Senior Adviser and Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Learn more about the Red Cross: https://www.redcross.ca/
Read:
Value(s) by Mark Carney – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/669023/values-by-mark-carney/9780771051555
Winter Work by Dan Fesperman – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/696607/winter-work-by-dan-fesperman/
Recording Date: 30 Aug 2022.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 30, 2022 • 27min
Defence Deconstructed: Establishing Presence in the Indo-Pacific
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Stephen Nagy about Canada's presence in the Indo-Pacific
This episode of Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participants Bios:
Stephen Nagy is a CGAI Fellow and Professor at the International Christian University in Tokyo – https://www.cgai.ca/stephen_nagy
Host bio:
David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Read:
Jerks at Work by Tessa West – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/652757/jerks-at-work-by-tessa-west/
The Avoidable War by Kevin Rudd – https://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/titles/kevin-rudd/the-avoidable-war/9781541701304/
Leadership by Henry Kissinger – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/692733/leadership-by-henry-kissinger/9780593489444
Recording Date: 23 Sep 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Sep 29, 2022 • 39min
Energy Security Cubed: Russia's Energy Escalation with Paul Stronski
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the sabotage of the Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines and Russia's energy relationship with India.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Paul Stronski about changing geopolitical and energy realities in Central Asia.
Guest Bio:
- Paul Stronski is a Senior Fellow in the Russia and Eurasia Program of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
What is Paul reading?
- Afghan Modern: The History of a Global Nation, by Robert Crews https://www.amazon.ca/Afghan-Modern-History-Global-Nation/dp/067428609X
Interview recording Date: September 27, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 26, 2022 • 49min
The Global Exchange: Building Global Resilience
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Stephen Flynn about resiliency and its importance for democratic stability.
Participant's bio:
Stephen Flynn is the Founding Director of the Global Resilience Institute at Northeastern University – https://globalresilience.northeastern.edu/about/team/stephen-flynn/
Host's bio:
Colin Robertson is Senior Adviser and Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Read:
Charles Dickens – https://www.charlesdickensinfo.com/novels/complete-works/
Recording Date: 24 Aug 2022.
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Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 23, 2022 • 44min
Defence Deconstructed: The Future of Canadian Deterrence
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Prof. Alex Wilner and Col (ret'd) Al Stephenson about the future of deterrence in Canada.
This episode of Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participants Bios:
Alex Wilner is a Professor at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs, Carleton University – https://www.alexwilner.ca/
Col (ret'd) Al Stephenson is a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/al_stephenson
Host bio:
David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Read:
"The Many Shades of Deterrence" by Alex Wilner – https://www.cgai.ca/the_many_shades_of_canadian_deterrence
"When Deterrence Fails: Is NORAD Enough?" by Al Stephenson – https://www.cgai.ca/when_deterrence_fails_is_norad_enough
Cross-Domain Deterrence by Jon R. Lindsay and Erik Gartzke – https://munkschool.utoronto.ca/research-articles/cross-domain-deterrence/
Call Sign Chaos by Jin Mattis and Bing West – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/240358/call-sign-chaos-by-jim-mattis-and-bing-west/
The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan – https://us.macmillan.com/series/wheeloftime
Deterrence by Denial: Theory and Practice by Alex Wilner and Andreas Wenger – https://www.cambriapress.com/pub.cfm?bid=786
Recording Date: 21 Sep 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Sep 22, 2022 • 40min
Energy Security Cubed: Mexico's Role in North American Energy Security with Leonardo Beltran
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including Russia's decision to mobilize reserves for its invasion of Ukraine, energy infrastructure permitting legislation in the US, and the labour force constraints of the energy transition.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Leonardo Beltran about the past, present, and future of Mexico's contribution to the integrated North American energy system.
Guest Bio:
- Leonardo Beltran is a Distinguished Visiting Fellow at Columbia University´s Center for Global Energy Policy
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
What is Leonardo reading?
- Good for You, Great for Me: Finding the Trading Zone and Winning at Win-Win Negotiation, by Lawrence Susskind
https://www.amazon.ca/Good-You-Great-Me-Negotiation/dp/1610394259
Interview recording Date: September 20, 2022.
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 19, 2022 • 59min
The Global Exchange: Is War Over Taiwan Coming?
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson discusses recent worries about a war over Taiwan with Charles Parton and Ted Lipman
Participants Biographies
Charles Parton is a Senior Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute – https://rusi.org/people/parton-obe
Ted Lipman is a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/ted_lipman
Host Biography
Colin Robertson is a Senior Adviser and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read and Listen:
"Taiwan: Invasion is not likely, but deterrence remains vital" by Charles Parton – https://www.geostrategy.org.uk/research/taiwan-invasion-is-not-likely-but-deterrence-remains-vital/
"Taïwan : une invasion est peu probable, mais la dissuasion reste vitale" par Charles Parton – https://ras-nsa.ca/fr/taiwan-une-invasion-est-peu-probable-mais-la-dissuasion-reste-vitale/
"Understanding China's Psychology" feat. Charles Parton and Ted Lipman – https://www.cgai.ca/understanding_chinas_psychology
Paris to the Moon by Adam Gopnik – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/69477/paris-to-the-moon-by-adam-gopnik/
The Hong Kong Diaries by Chris Patten – https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/447585/the-hong-kong-diaries-by-patten-chris/9780241560495
Colin Robertson's review of the Hong Kong Diaries – https://www.policymagazine.ca/pattens-hong-kong-diaries-an-engaging-stroll-through-the-handover-snake-pit/
Recording Date: 6 September 2022.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
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Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 16, 2022 • 47min
Defence Deconstructed: Finland and Sweden Accessing NATO
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry speaks to H.E. Roy Eriksson and H.E. Urban Ahlin about Finland and Sweden's accession to NATO.
This episode of Defence Deconstructed is a recording from a roundtable made possible by Saab Canada Inc.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard
Guests:
H.E. Roy Eriksson is Ambassador of Finland to Canada
H.E. Urban Ahlin is Ambassador of Sweden to Canada
Host
David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
For the readout of the roundtable, read this piece from Canadian Defence Review's James Careless: http://www.canadiandefencereview.com/news?news/3493
Recording Date: 13 September 2022
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips


