The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
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Feb 24, 2023 • 47min
Defence Deconstructed: A Year of War in Ukraine
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry is talking to Andrew Rasiulis and LGen (ret'd) Mike Day about the war in Ukraine one year after the invasion, and the path forward.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Chantier Davie.
Participants Bios:
LGen Day (ret'd) D. Michael Day is a retired infantry officer and former Commander of the Special Forces and the NATO Response Forces, and a CGAI Fellow. www.cgai.ca/d_michael_day
Andrew Rasiulis is a CGAI Fellow, a former Department of National Defence official, and a freelance consultant with Andrew Rasiulis Associates Inc. www.cgai.ca/andrew_rasiulis
What Mike and Andrew are reading
The Passion of the Western Mind by Richard Tamas – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/176557/passion-of-the-western-mind-by-richard-tarnas/
Russia – Revolution and Civil War, 1917-1921 by Sir Anthony Beevor – https://www.antonybeevor.com/book/russia-revolution-and-civil-war-1917-1921/
Recording Date: 24 Feb 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Feb 23, 2023 • 38min
Energy Security Cubed: The Global Shadow Tanker Fleet with Michelle Bockmann
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the legacy of former President Jimmy Carter, the effect of sanctions on Russia's major oil companies, and the definition of "renewable" hydrogen.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Michelle Bockmann about the global shadow tanker fleet, and the risks it poses to the security of the global oil trade.
Guest Bio:
- Michelle Bockmann is a shipping editor and analyst with Lloyd's List
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading recommendations:
- "Not Now, Not Ever: Ten years on from the misogyny speech", by Julia Gillard: https://www.amazon.com/Not-Now-Ever-misogyny-speech-ebook/dp/B0B3LZT9P2
- "Bully Market: My Story of Money and Misogyny at Goldman Sachs", by Jamie Fiore Higgins: https://www.amazon.ca/Bully-Market-Story-Misogyny-Goldman/dp/1668001020
- "All the Rage", by Paulie Stewart: https://www.collinsbooks.com.au/p/paulie-stewart-all-the-rage
- "Putin's People: How the KGB Took Back Russia and Then Took On the West", by Catherine Belton: https://www.amazon.com/Putins-People-Took-Back-Russia/dp/0374238715
Interview recording Date: February 21, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Feb 22, 2023 • 59min
The Global Exchange: A Comprehensive Strategy to Secure Ukraine's Future
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Julian Lindley-French, Kate Hansen Bundt, Rob de Wijk, and John Allen about the support the West needs to provide Ukraine to win the war.
This episode explore the content of a strategy written by The Alphen Group: https://www.cgai.ca/a_comprehensive_strategy_to_secure_ukraines_future
Participants' bios
Dr. Julian Lindley-French is a Fellow at CGAI. https://www.cgai.ca/julian_lindley_french
Kate Hansen Bundt has been Secretary General of the Norwegian Atlantic Committee since 2010. https://thealphengroup.com/kate-hansen-bundt/
Rob de Wijk is the founder and non-executive director of The Hague Centre for Strategic Studies. https://thealphengroup.com/rob-de-wijk/
Gen. John Allen, USMC (Ret.), a member of the Washington Institute's Board of Advisors, is former commander of the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan. https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/experts/john-allen
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Recording Date: 21 February 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Feb 17, 2023 • 44min
Defence Deconstructed: Spy Balloons and NORAD Decision-Making
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to MGen (ret'd) Scott Clancy about the objects flying over North America and the decision-making process behind shooting them down.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participant's bio:
MGen (ret'd) Scott Clancy is a retired RCAF pilot, former NORAD director of operations, and a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/scott_clancy
Host bio:
David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Read:
Developing Coaching Leaders by Scott Clancy (coming out soon) – https://scottclancy.ca/book/
The Infinite Game by Simon Sinek – https://simonsinek.com/books/the-infinite-game/
Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek – https://simonsinek.com/books/leaders-eat-last/
Recording Date: 16 Feb 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Feb 17, 2023 • 44min
Defence Deconstructed: Non-Conventional Threats in the Indo-Pacific Part 2
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine moderates the second part of a discussion on the non-conventional threats complicating matters in the Indo-Pacific with Kyoko Kuwahara, Charles Burton, and Malcolm Davis for CGAI's Peace and Stability in the Indo-Pacific Conference.
Participant bios:
- Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is a Fellow and Ottawa Operations Manager at CGAI
- Kyoko Kuwahara is a Visiting Fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute and a Research Fellow at The Japan Institute of International Affairs
- Charles Burton is a Senior Fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute
- Malcolm Davis is a Senior Analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute
Host bio:
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Recording Date: 27 Jan 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Feb 16, 2023 • 25min
Energy Security Cubed: Lessons from the Texas Power Grid with Garrett Golding
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle talks with Garrett Golding about challenges for the Texas electricity grid, and takeaways for securing the grid for a more electrified future.
Guest Bio:
- Garrett Golding is a business economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading recommendations:
"The World For Sale", by Javier Blas and Jack Farchy: https://www.amazon.ca/World-Sale-Javier-Blas/dp/0190078952
Interview recording Date: February 9, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Feb 13, 2023 • 1h 4min
The Global Exchange: Updating The Defence Policy
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to the Hon. David Collenette, LGen (ret’d) the Hon. Andrew Leslie, and the Hon. Peter McKay about Canada’s defence policy and its future strategic position.
Participants' bios
The Honourable David Collenette PC, LLD, FCILT, served as a Liberal Member of Parliament from Toronto for 21 years and as a Cabinet Minister under three Prime Ministers – Pierre Trudeau, John Turner and Jean Chretien – https://natoassociation.ca/hon-david-collenette-pc-lld/
Lt. General the Honourable Andrew Leslie, PC, CMM, MSC, MSM, CD, MA has been a soldier, business leader and federal Member of Parliament. https://carleton.ca/npsia/people/andrew-leslie/
The Hon. Peter McKay served in the Parliament of Canada for over 18 years as a cabinet minister in high-profile portfolios, including Justice and Attorney General, Department of National Defense, Foreign Affairs and the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency. He now serves on the CGAI Advisory Board.
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read and Stream:
What Is Government Good At? by Donald Savoie – https://www.mqup.ca/what-is-government-good-at--products-9780773546219.php
SAS Rogue Heroes – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10405370/
The Bodyguard – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7493974/
In the Line of Duty – https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2303687/
Books by Daniel Silva – https://danielsilvabooks.com/the-books/a-complete-listing/
Book by Ken Follet – https://ken-follett.com/books/
Recording Date: 9 February 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Feb 10, 2023 • 50min
Defence Deconstructed: Non-Conventional Threats in the Indo-Pacific Part 1
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine moderates the first part of a discussion on the non-conventional threats complicating matters in the Indo-Pacific with Kyoko Kuwahara, Charles Burton, and Malcolm Davis for CGAI's Peace and Stability in the Indo-Pacific Conference.
Participant bios:
- Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is a Fellow and Ottawa Operations Manager at CGAI
- Kyoko Kuwahara is a Visiting Fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute and a Research Fellow at The Japan Institute of International Affairs
- Charles Burton is a Senior Fellow at the Macdonald-Laurier Institute
- Malcolm Davis is a Senior Analyst at the Australian Strategic Policy Institute
Host bio:
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Recording Date: 27 Jan 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Feb 9, 2023 • 43min
Energy Security Cubed: Technological Barriers for Energy Transition with Mark Mills
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss global events in energy security, including Canadian energy realism, the crisis in South Africa, and prospects for mining in British Columbia.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Mark Mills about the limits of energy transition technology, and implications for decarbonization goals.
Guest Bio:
- Mark Mills is a Senior Fellow focusing on technology for the Manhattan Institute.
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading recommendations:
"Cobalt Red: How the Blood of the Congo Powers Our Lives", by Siddharth Kara: https://www.amazon.com/Cobalt-Red-Blood-Congo-Powers-ebook/dp/B09Y462D6Z
Interview recording Date: February 3, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Feb 6, 2023 • 54min
The Global Exchange: One Year of War in Ukraine
On this episode of the Global Exchange, Colin Robertson is joined by Jeremy Kinsman, Ralph Lysyshyn, and John Sloan for a discussion on the unfolding consequences of the Russian invasion of Ukraine nearly a year on.
Guest bios:
Jeremy Kinsman is distinguished Fellow of the Canadian International Council, and former ambassador to Russia and Italy, former High Commissioner in London, and former Ambassador to the EU
Ralph Lysyshyn served as Canadian Ambassador to Russia (with accreditation to Armenia and Uzbekistan) from 2006 to 2010.
John Sloan served as Canada’s ambassador to the Russian Federation, Armenia and Uzbekistan from August 2010 to September 2013.
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a Senior Adviser and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/staff#robertson
Reading recommendations:
1. Black Wind, White Snow: The Rise of Russia's New Nationalism, by Charles Clover: https://www.amazon.ca/Black-Wind-White-Snow-Nationalism/dp/0300226454
2. The City of Falling Angels, by John Berendt: https://www.amazon.ca/City-Falling-Angels-John-Berendt/dp/0143036939
3. Putin, by Philip Short: https://www.amazon.com/Putin-Philip-Short/dp/1627793666
4. Anything by Sally Rooney (to help you understand the young'uns): https://www.amazon.ca/Books-Sally-Rooney/s?rh=n%3A916520%2Cp_27%3ASally+Rooney
5. The Man Who Understood Democracy: The Life of Alexis de Tocqueville, by Oliver Zunz: https://www.amazon.ca/Man-Who-Understood-Democracy-Tocqueville/dp/0691173974#:~:text=Olivier%20Zunz-,The%20Man%20Who%20Understood%20Democracy%3A%20The%20Life%20of%20Alexis,Tocqueville%20Hardcover%20%E2%80%93%20May%203%202022
Recording Date: 1 February 2023.
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