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The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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May 15, 2023 • 53min
The Global Exchange: Assessing and Implementing the Indo-Pacific Strategy
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Hugh Stephens and Phil Calvert about the Indo-Pacific Strategy and its implementation
Participants’ Biographies:
Hugh Stephens is a CGAI Fellow and a Distinguished Fellow at the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada. https://www.cgai.ca/hugh_stephens
Phil Calvert is a CGAI Fellow and a Senior Fellow with the China Institute of the University of Alberta. – https://www.cgai.ca/philip_calvert
Host biography
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read and Watch:
Canada’s New Indo-Pacific Strategy: A Critical Assessment by Hugh Stephens – https://www.policyschool.ca/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/IPT6-IndoPacificStrategy.Stephens.pdf
Canadian diplomacy in Southeast Asia: challenges for the coming decades by Phil Calvert – https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/11926422.2023.2186451
Bangkok Wakes to Rain by Pitchaya Sudbanthad – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/566672/bangkok-wakes-to-rain-by-pitchaya-sudbanthad/
Canada and China by Bernie Frolic – https://utorontopress.com/9781487540883/canada-and-china/
Listen to our episode with Bernie Frolic – https://www.cgai.ca/a_journey_through_canada_china_relations
Recording Date: 8 May 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 12, 2023 • 30min
Defence Deconstructed: Exploring the Barriers to Culture Change
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine speaks to Dr. Vanessa Brown and Dr. Allan English about the systemic barriers to CAF Reconstitution and culture change.
This episode is part of a series exploring the challenges facing CAF Reconstitution and culture change, made possible thanks to the Department of National Defence's MINDS Program.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding
Participants' bios
Dr. Vanessa Brown is Associate Professor at the Canadian Forces College
Dr. Allan English is Professor at Queen's University
Host bio
Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is CGAI's Ottawa Operations Manager and one of its fellows.
Recording Date: 17 Apr 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

May 11, 2023 • 37min
Energy Security Cubed: The Role of Natural Gas in a Lower Carbon Future with Eric Miller
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle talks with CGAI Fellow Eric Miller about his recent paper for the Canadian Chamber of Commerce, "Canada and Global Energy Security: The Role of Natural Gas in a Lower Carbon Future". Find Eric's paper here: https://chamber.ca/news/canada-and-global-energy-security-the-role-of-natural-gas-in-a-lower-carbon-future/
Guest Bio:
- Eric Miller is a CGAI Fellow, President and CEO of Rideau Potomac Strategy Group, a Global Fellow at the Woodrow Wilson Center, and a Fellow with the Canadian Chamber of Commerce’s Future of Business Centre.
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "The First Muslim: The Story of Muhammad", by Lesley Hazleton: https://www.amazon.ca/First-Muslim-Story-Muhammad/dp/1594632308
- "The World for Sale: Money, Power, and the Traders Who Barter the Earth's Resources", by Javier Blas and Jack Farchy: https://www.amazon.ca/World-Sale-Javier-Blas/dp/0190078952
Interview recording Date: April 21, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 8, 2023 • 51min
The Global Exchange: Crisis in Sudan
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Patricia Fortier, Nick Coghlan, and Chris Roberts about the crisis in Sudan and Canada's response.
Participants bios:
Patricia Fortier is a CGAI Fellow. https://www.cgai.ca/patricia_fortier
Chris Roberts is a CGAI Fellow. https://profiles.ucalgary.ca/chris-w-j-roberts
Nick Coghlan is a retired Canadian diplomat. https://www.bosunbird.com/about/
What our guests are reading:
Let the Great World Spin by Colum McCann – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/110437/let-the-great-world-spin-by-colum-mccann/
Hayek: A LIfe – https://www.amazon.ca/Hayek-Life-1899-1950-Bruce-Caldwell/dp/0226816826
Diplomatic Baggage by Brigid Keenan – https://www.bloomsbury.com/ca/diplomatic-baggage-9781526654892/
Host biography
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read and Watch:
Recording Date: 5 May 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Ph

May 5, 2023 • 36min
Defence Deconstructed: Defence Spending, Procurement, and Planning
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Dr. Philippe Lagassé about the implications of increasing defence spending.
This episode of Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
Participant's bio:
Philippe Lagassé is an associate professor and Barton Chair at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs, Carleton University and a CGAI fellow. https://www.cgai.ca/Philippe_Lagasse
Read his piece on The Line: https://www.cgai.ca/Philippe_Lagasse
Host Bio
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 5 May 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

May 4, 2023 • 41min
Energy Security Cubed: ESG and Geopolitical Risk with Mac Van Wielingen
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including oil price predictions in June, Norway's expansion into the Barents Sea, and Malaysia's influence on the global supply of rare earth oxides.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Mac Van Wielingen about how the world of ESG (Environment, Social, and Governance) has changed in the new era of geopolitical uncertainty.
Guest Bio:
- Mac Van Wielingen is founder and chair of Viewpoint Group, a co-founder of Viewpoint Investment Partners, and the founder of Arc Financial Corporation.
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendation
"Twilight of Democracy", by Anne Applebaum: https://www.amazon.ca/Twilight-Democracy-Seductive-Lure-Authoritarianism/dp/0385545800
Interview recording Date: April 20, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

May 1, 2023 • 19min
The Global Exchange: Steve Verheul on Leading Canadian Trade Policy Through Protectionist Times
On this episode of The Global Exchange, you'll hear Steve Verheul's keynote address to CGAI's Annual international Trade Conference, which occurred on March 29, 2023.
This event was made possible thanks to CGAI's Strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics Canada, Davie Shipyard, and Pathways Alliance; our conference bronze sponsors UPS, Amazon, and Enbridge; and our Organizing Partner The Norman Patterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University.
Guest Bio:
Steve Verheul retired from the Federal Public Service in October 2022 and is now a Principal with GT and Company Executive Advisors, as well as President of Steve Verheul Consulting Inc. Prior to his retirement from the Public Service in 2022, he served as a Special Advisor on Trade Policy to the Deputy Minister of Finance. https://ppforum.ca/person/steve-verheul/
Recording Date: 29 Mar 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Apr 28, 2023 • 37min
Defence Deconstructed: Connecting Icebreakers to C4ISR
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry talks to Mark McWhinney about the need to connect Canadian Coast Guard Icebreakers to C4ISR.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard
Participant's bio:
Mark McWhinney is a PhD Student at Carleton University and a CGAI Fellow.
Host Bio
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Read:
"Connecting Icebreakers to C4ISR: Ensuring the Canadian Coast Guard Doesn't 'Miss the Boat'" by Mark McWhinney – https://www.cgai.ca/connecting_icebreakers_to_c4isr_ensuring_the_canadian_coast_guard_doesnt_miss_the_boat
Thinking in Systems by Donella H. Meadows – https://www.chelseagreen.com/product/thinking-in-systems/
Recording Date: 27 Apr 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Apr 27, 2023 • 48min
Energy Security Cubed: The Success of Norwegian Energy Policy with Chris Mylde
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the vote on Teck's company split, South Africa's sputtering decarbonization plans, and the implications of heat waves in India.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Chris Mylde about the design and context of the energy industry in Norway.
Guest Bio:
- Christoffer Mylde is Senior Vice President, Corporate Development at Sproule and Norwegian Honorary Consul for Southern Alberta
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendation
"Act of Oblivion", by Robert Harris: https://www.amazon.ca/Act-Oblivion-Robert-Harris/dp/0735282129
Interview recording Date: April 14, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Apr 24, 2023 • 57min
The Global Exchange: Finland, Sweden, and The World
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to H.E. Roy Eriksson, Karin Öhman, and Chris Shapardanov about Sweden and Finland, their accession to NATO, their defence outlook, and their relations with the world, including Canada.
Participants bios
H.E. Roy Eriksson is the Ambassador of Finland to Canada. https://finlandabroad.fi/web/can/current-affairs/-/asset_publisher/h5w4iTUJhNne/content/greetings-from-ambassador-roy-eriksson/384951
Karin Öhman is the Swedish Deputy Head of Mission in Canada. https://www.swedenabroad.se/en/embassies/canada-ottawa/about-us/
Chris Shapardanov is a former Canadian diplomat and a Senior Associate at David Pratt & associates – https://dpa.ltd/chris-shapardanov/
Recording Date: 11 Apr 2023.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on Linkedin.
Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.