

The CGAI Podcast Network
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Mar 24, 2023 • 1h 16min
Defence Deconstructed: Making a Defence Policy
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry is speaking to Ian Brodie, Thomas Juneau, Eugene Lang, and Vincent Rigby about the makings of defence policies
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participants bios
Ian Brodie is Professor in the Department of Political Science, a Fellow at the Centre for Military, Security and Strategic Studies, and CGAI’s Program Director. https://profiles.ucalgary.ca/ian-brodie
Thomas Juneau is associate professor at the University of Ottawa's Graduate School of Public and International Affairs and a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/thomas_juneau
Eugene Lang is Assistant Professor in the School of Policy Studies at Queen’s University and a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/eugene_lang
Vincent Rigby is a non-resident senior adviser with the Americas Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. https://www.csis.org/people/vincent-rigby
Host Bio
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/david_perry
What our guests are reading
Doom by Niall Ferguson – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/668960/doom-by-niall-ferguson/
Private Power, Public Purpose by Thomas d'Aquino – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/702756/private-power-public-purpose-by-thomas-daquino/9780771000737
25 Days to Aden by Michael Knights – https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/25-days-to-aden-michael-knights/1141985230
The Abyss by Max Hastings – https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-abyss-max-hastings?variant=40072929935394
Recording Date: 24 Mar 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Mar 23, 2023 • 45min
Energy Security Cubed: Security Risks of Climate Change and Energy Transition with Cullen Hendrix
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including U.S. President Joe Biden's visit to Ottawa, global crude oil prices, and Chinese President Xi Jinping's visit to Moscow.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Cullen Hendrix about the security risks surrounding both climate change and the race for an energy transition.
Guest Bio:
- Cullen Hendrix is a Nonresident Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics. Read his paper on critical minerals for Foreign Policy here: https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/11/22/critical-minerals-resources-us-china-competition-cold-war-supply-chains/
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading recommendations:
- "States and Nature: The Effects of Climate Change on Security", by Joshua Busby: https://www.amazon.ca/States-Nature-Effects-Climate-Security/dp/110895846X
- Twitter feed from Director of the Center for Climate and Security Erin Sikorsky: https://twitter.com/ErinSikorsky
Interview recording Date: March 13, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Mar 20, 2023 • 60min
The Global Exchange: Mr. Biden Goes to Ottawa
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to the Hon. John Manley, Gary Doer, and David MacNaughton about Biden's visit to Ottawa and reveal what happens behind the curtains of bilateral meetings.
Read:
"Mr. Biden Comes to Canada" by Colin Robertson – https://www.policymagazine.ca/mr-biden-comes-to-canada/
The Power Broker: Robert Moses and the Fall of New York by Robert A. Caro – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/24312/the-power-broker-by-robert-a-caro/9780394720241
A Promised Land by Barack Obama – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/562882/a-promised-land-by-barack-obama/9781524763169
Battlegrounds: The Fight to Defence the Free World by H.R. McMaster – https://www.harpercollins.com/products/battlegrounds-h-r-mcmaster?variant=33082432159778
Where To From Here by Bill Morneau – https://ecwpress.com/products/where-to-from-here
The Rose Code by Kate Quinn – https://www.katequinnauthor.com/books/the-rose-code/
Participants bios:
The Honourable John Manley, P.C., O.C. s best known as a former Deputy Prime Minister of Canada. https://www.cgai.ca/advisory_council#Manley
Gary Doer was the 23rd Canadian Ambassador to the United States and former Premier of Manitoba. https://www.cgai.ca/advisory_council#GaryDoer
David MacNaughton served as Canadian Ambassador to the U.S. and is now Canadian President of Palantir Technologies. https://www.cgai.ca/advisory_council#DavidMacNaughton
John, Gary, and David sit on CGAI's Advisory Council.
Host biography
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Recording Date: 20 Mar 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Mar 17, 2023 • 47min
Defence Deconstructed: Addressing the Warrior Spirit
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine speaks to Dr. Tammy George and Dr. Christopher Ankersen about the warrior ethos and how it might influence military culture.
This episode is part of a series on CAF Reconstitution and Culture Change, made possible thanks to a Department of National Defence's MINDS Targeted Engagement Grant.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Guest bios:
Dr. Tammy George is an assistant professor in the Faculty of Health Science, School of Kinesiology at York University and Co-Director of the Transforming Military Cultures Network – https://www.msvu.ca/research-at-the-mount/centres-and-institutes/transforming-military-cultures-network/meet-the-team/
Dr. Christopher Ankersen is a Clinical Professor of Global Affairs at New York University. https://www.sps.nyu.edu/homepage/academics/faculty-directory/20007-christopher-p-ankersen.html
Host bio:
Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is the Ottawa Operations Manager and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Lantoine
Recording Date: 1 Mar 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Mar 16, 2023 • 35min
Energy Security Cubed: The Global Competition for Critical Minerals with Morgan Bazilian
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the Cedar LNG project, the Nord Stream pipeline whodunnit, and Volkswagen's planned battery ambitions in North America.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Morgan Bazilian about the growing global competition over critical minerals.
Guest Bio:
- Morgan Bazilian is Director of the Payne Institute for Public Policy at the Colorado School of Mines. Find his article with Greg Brew here: https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/missing-minerals-clean-energy-supply-chains
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading recommendations:
- Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence, by Amy B. Zegart: https://www.amazon.ca/Spies-Lies-Algorithms-American-Intelligence/dp/0691147132
Interview recording Date: March 13, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Mar 15, 2023 • 1h 5min
The Global Exchange: War At the Borders
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Žaneta Ozolina, Imants Liegis, and Sławodir Dębski about how Latvia and Poland are responding to having war at their border.
Participants’ Biographies:
Žaneta Ozolina is a Professor of International Relations in the Department of Political Science, University of Latvia. https://thealphengroup.com/zaneta-ozolina/
Sławomir Dębski is the Director of the Polish Institute of International Affairs – https://www.institutmontaigne.org/en/experts/slawomir-debski
Imants Lieģis is a former Latvian Defense Minister from (2009 to 2010) and former Ambassador – europeanleadershipnetwork.org/person/imants-viesturs-liegis/
Host biography
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Recording Date: 15 Mar 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Mar 10, 2023 • 42min
Defence Deconstructed: Canadian Submarine Recapitalization in the Context of Climate Change
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry talks to Tim Choi about plans for the Canadian submarine fleet, and how these plans reflect the changing conditions caused by climate change. You can read Tim Choi's recent paper with Chris Spedding for BASIC on the topic here: https://basicint.org/report-canadian-submarine-recapitalization-in-the-context-of-climate-change/
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Chantier Davie.
Participant Bio:
Dr. Timothy Choi is a CGAI Fellow, a Consultant at the British American Security Information Council, and a Graduate Fellow at the North American and Arctic Defence and Security Network
What Tim is reading:
"Thunder in the Morning Calm: The Royal Canadian Navy in Korea 1950-1955", by E. C. Meyers: https://www.amazon.ca/Thunder-Morning-Calm-Edward-Meyers/dp/0920277713
Recording Date: 28 Feb 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Mar 9, 2023 • 35min
Energy Security Cubed: Tracking Emissions in Global Oil Markets with Kevin Birn
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the prospect of a "lithium OPEC", US and EU subsidies for EVs, and the supply of Kazakh oil to Europe.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Kevin Birn about the vagaries of emissions tracking in oil production around the world.
Guest Bio:
- Kevin Birn is Global Head of Centre of Emissions Excellence & Chief Analyst, Canadian Oil Markets, S&P Global Commodity Insights, and a CGAI Fellow.
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading recommendations:
- The Harry Potter Series, by J.K. Rowling: https://www.amazon.ca/Harry-Potter-Philosophers-Stone-Rowling/dp/1408855895
Interview recording Date: February 28, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Mar 6, 2023 • 57min
The Global Exchange: A Journey Through Canada-China Relations
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Dr. B. Michael Frolic about his recent book on Canada-China relations.
Participant's bio:
Dr. B. Michael Frolic is a professor emeritus at York University – https://www.yorku.ca/research/ycar/abmp/our-team/
Host Bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read:
Canada and China: A Fifty-Year Journey by B. Michael Frolic – https://utorontopress.com/9781487540883/canada-and-china/
"'Canada and China': The Bilateral Journey, from Trudeau to Trudeau" by Colin Robertson – https://www.policymagazine.ca/canada-and-china-the-bilateral-journey-from-trudeau-to-trudeau/
Recording Date: 16 Feb 2022.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
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Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Mar 2, 2023 • 35min
Energy Security Cubed: Depressed Global Energy Prices with Jude Clemente
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including local opposition to clean energy, the risks of a disaster in the Red Sea, and the new nominee to head the World Bank.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Jude Clemente about the factors driving low energy prices in North America and globally.
Guest Bio:
- Jude Clemente is a CGAI Fellow and Principal at JTC Energy Associates. Read his recent article for Forbes Magazine: https://www.forbes.com/sites/judeclemente/2023/02/19/the-overprivileged-wests-delusion-of-transitioning-away-from-oil/?sh=6a0521c03f1c
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading recommendations:
- "Tunney: Boxing's Brainiest Champ and His Upset of the Great Jack Dempsey", by Jack Cavanaugh: https://www.amazon.ca/Tunney-Boxings-Brainiest-Champ-Dempsey/dp/0812967836
Interview recording Date: February 28, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.