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The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Jun 30, 2023 • 45min
Defence Deconstructed: Defence Innovation in the Five Eyes
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry speaks toGeordie Jeakins to discuss defence innovation in the Five Eyes and the lessons for Canada.
This episode is based on a report from Oliver Wyman and funded by the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program. To read the report, go to: https://www.cgai.ca/innovating_for_defence
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participant’s bio:
Geordie Jeakins is Manager at Oliver Wyman – https://www.avascent.com/our-team/geordie-jeakins/
Host Bio:
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Recording Date: 5 June 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillipshttps://www.avascent.com/our-team/geordie-jeakins/.

Jun 29, 2023 • 49min
Energy Security Cubed: Energy in Pakistan with Shehryar Omar
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including China's relationship with Qatar and a new Japanese-funded coal-fired power plant in Bangladesh.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Shehryar Omar about the challenges facing Pakistan's energy systems, and a vision for the future of energy in Pakistan.
Guest Bio:
- Shehryar Omar is the CEO of the Petroleum Institute of Pakistan
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "The Journey of Humanity: The Origins of Wealth and Inequality", by Oded Galor: https://www.amazon.ca/Journey-Humanity-Origins-Wealth-Inequality/dp/0593185994
Interview recording Date: June 20, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jun 26, 2023 • 49min
The Global Exchange: Ukraine: How Does This End?
On this episode ofThe Global Exchange, LGen (ret'd) D. Michael Day speaks to H.E. Yuliya Kovaliv, H.E. Sabine Sparwasser, and Dr. Julian Lindlay-French about the evolution of the war in Ukraine and what it will take to create peace.
This episode is a recording from our 12th annual Canada in the World conference, which took place on June 2nd, 2023 in Ottawa. This episode was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Pathways Alliance, and our event Gold Sponsor
Participants Bios:
H.E. Yuliya Kovaliv is the ambassador of Ukraine to Canada.
H.E. Sabine Sparwasser is the ambassador of Germany to Canada
Dr. Julian Lindley-French is the Chair of The Alphen Group and a fellow at CGAI.
Host Bio
LGen (ret'd) D. Michael Day is a fellow at CGAI.
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to CGAI.
Recording Date: 2 Jun 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jun 23, 2023 • 27min
Defence Deconstructed: VAdm Topshee on Antisubmarine Warfare & the Future of the RCN
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Vice-Admiral Angus Topshee delivers a keynote address about the role of anti-submarine warfare in the future of the Royal Canadian Navy.
This episode is an excerpt from our conference, Canadian Anti Submarine Warfare in the Future Strategic Environment, which took place on June 15, 2023. It was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence's MINDS Program, CGAI's Strategic Sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, and Irving Shipbuilding; and our event sponsors: BAE Systems; IMP Aerospace and Defence; CAE; Seaspan Vancouver Shipyards and Bombardier.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
Participant's bio
Vice-Admiral Angus Topshee is the Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy – https://www.canada.ca/en/navy/corporate/our-organization/leadership/crcn.html
Host Bio
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 15 Jun 2023
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Jun 22, 2023 • 46min
Energy Security Cubed: Budgeting Canada's Energy Policies with Yves Giroux and Marianne Laurin
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss the Canada Energy Regulator's Canada's Energy Future 2023 Report. You can find the report here: https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/data-analysis/canada-energy-future/2023/
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Yves Giroux and Marianne Laurin about the role of the Parliamentary Budget Officer in advising on Canadian energy policy, and several recent reports from the PBO. You can find the reports discussed in the episode below:
Clean Fuel Regulations: https://www.pbo-dpb.ca/en/publications/RP-2324-004-S--distributional-analysis-clean-fuel-regulations--analyse-distributive-reglement-combustibles-propres
Federal Fuel Charge: https://www.pbo-dpb.ca/en/publications/RP-2223-028-S--distributional-analysis-federal-fuel-charge-under-2030-emissions-reduction-plan--analyse-distributive-redevance-federale-combustibles-dans-cadre-plan-reduction-emissions-2030
Reducing GHG Emissions by 2030: https://www.pbo-dpb.ca/en/publications/RP-2122-009-S--beyond-paris-reducing-canada-ghg-emissions-2030--dela-paris-reduire-emissions-gaz-effet-serre-canada-ici-2030
Guest Bios:
- Yves Giroux is the Parliamentary Budget Officer for the Parliament of Canada
- Marianne Laurin is an Economic Analyst at the Office of the Parliamentary Budget Officer
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "The Silo Series", by Hugh Howey: https://www.amazon.ca/Silo-Saga-Wool-Shift-Stories/dp/0358447828
- "Berlin Noir", by Phillip Kerr: https://www.amazon.ca/Berlin-Noir-Philip-Kerr/dp/0140231706
Interview recording Date: June 15, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jun 19, 2023 • 56min
The Global Exchange: Deepening the Canada-Mexico Bilateral Relationship
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Andrés Rozental, Jeffrey Simpson, and Solange Márquez about a recent joint report from COMEXI and the CGAI on the Canada-Mexico relationship, and what can be done to improve trade and diplomatic ties. You can find the report on CGAI's website here: https://www.cgai.ca/mexico_canada_two_nations_in_a_north_american_partnership
Participants’ Biographies:
- Andrés Rozental Gutman is a former Mexican ambassador to the United States and the founding President of the Mexican Council on Foreign Relations
- Jeffrey Simpson is Senior fellow at the University of Ottawa's Graduate School of Public and International Affairs and a member of the CGAI Advisory Council
- Solange Marquez is a CGAI Fellow and a professor at the Law School of the National Autonomous University of Mexico
Host biography
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read and Watch:
"How to Lose a Country: The 7 Steps from Democracy to Dictatorship", by Ece Temelkuran: https://www.amazon.ca/How-Lose-Country-Democracy-Dictatorship/dp/0008340617
"Astrophysics for Young People in a Hurry", by Neil deGrasse Tyson and Gregory Mone: https://www.amazon.ca/Astrophysics-Young-People-Hurry-deGrasse/dp/1324003286
"Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology", by Chris Miller: https://www.amazon.ca/Chip-War-Worlds-Critical-Technology/dp/1982172002
"Making History: The Storytellers Who Shaped the Past", by Richard Cohen: https://www.amazon.ca/Making-History-Storytellers-Shaped-Past/dp/1982195789
"The Dope: The Real History of the Mexican Drug Trade", by Benjamin T Smith: https://www.amazon.ca/Dope-Real-History-Mexican-Trade/dp/1324006552
"Leadership: Six Studies in World Strategy", by Henry Kissinger: https://www.amazon.ca/Leadership-Six-Studies-World-Strategy/dp/0593489446
Recording Date: June 6, 2023.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
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Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jun 16, 2023 • 31min
Defence Deconstructed: ASW and the CAF's Future with Gen Eyre
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, you're hear General Eyre's opening keynote to our conference, Canadian Anti Submarine Warfare in the Future Strategic Environment, which took place on June 15, 2023.
This episode and event was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence's MINDS Program, CGAI's Strategic Sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, and Irving Shipbuilding; and our event sponsors: BAE Systems; IMP Aerospace and Defence; CAE; Seaspan Vancouver Shipyards and Bombardier.
Participant's bio
General Wayne Eyre is Canada's Chief of the Defence Staff – https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/organizational-structure/chief-defence-staff/cds-bio.html
Host Bio
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 15 Jun 2023
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Jun 15, 2023 • 39min
Energy Security Cubed: A Power Link to the Arctic, with Anne-Raphaëlle Audouin
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the prospect of refilling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve and a recent report from the IEA about the outlook for oil through 2028.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Anne-Raphaëlle Audouin about Nukik Corporation and the planned Kivalliq Hydro-Fibre Link to link Nunavut to the Manitoba grid.
Guest Bio:
- Anne-Raphaëlle Audouin is the CEO of Nukik Corporation
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "The Henna Artist: A Novel", by Alka Joshi: https://www.amazon.ca/Henna-Artist-Novel-Alka-Joshi/dp/0778310205
Interview recording Date: June 12, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jun 12, 2023 • 42min
The Global Exchange: Martin Wolf on Democratic Capitalism
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson talks to Martin Wolf about his book, The Crisis of Democratic Capitalism.
Guest bio:
Martin Wolf is a columnist for The Financial Times – https://www.ft.com/martin-wolf
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read:
The Crisis of Democratic Capitalism by Martin Wolf – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/554951/the-crisis-of-democratic-capitalism-by-martin-wolf/
Colin Robertson's review of the book: https://www.policymagazine.ca/the-crisis-of-democratic-capitalism-a-diagnosis-of-decline-and-prescription-for-repair/
Power and Progress by Daron Acemoglu & Simon Johnson – https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/daron-acemoglu/power-and-progress/9781541702530/?lens=publicaffairs
Recording Date: 05 Jun 2023.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on Linkedin.
Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jun 9, 2023 • 1h 4min
Defence Deconstructed: Insights on Army Modernization
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to our Fellow, BGen (ret'd) Chris Ayotte about modernizing the Canadian Army.
David is also joined by our 2023-24 Women in Defence and Security Fellow, Kate Todd, to discuss the latest developments in defence news.
Participants' bios
Kate Todd is CGAI's 2023-24 WiDS Fellow–https://www.cgai.ca/kate_e_todd_wids_press_release
BGen (ret'd) Chris Ayotte is a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/chris_ayotte
Host bio:
Dave Perry is the President of CGAI – https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Read and Listen:
CGAI's series on climate change and defence: https://www.cgai.ca/the_canadian_armed_forces_and_climate_change
21 Lessons for the 21 st Century by Yuval Noah Harari – https://www.ynharari.com/book/21-lessons-book/
Parade State Zero by Christian Lillington – https://warriors4life.ca/parade-state-zero
Recording Date: 21 Mar 2023.
Give 'Defence Deconstructed' a review on Apple Podcast!
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on Linkedin.
Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.