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The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Jul 17, 2023 • 35min
The Global Exchange: Can Democracy Survive?
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Maureen Boyd moderates a panel on the future of the US democracy with H.E. David Cohen, David MacNaughton, and Bruce Stokes.
This episode is from our Annual Canada in the World Conference, which took place on June 2, 2023. This event was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors, Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics Canada, Irving Shipbuilding, and Pathways Alliance, and the conference Gold Sponsor Raytheon.
Participants biographies:
H.E. David Cohen is the US Ambassador to Canada. – https://ca.usembassy.gov/our-relationship/our-ambassador/
David MacNaughton is a member of CGAI's Advisory Council. – https://www.cgai.ca/advisory_council#DavidMacNaughton
Bruce Stokes is a Visiting Senior Fellow at the German Marshall Fund of the United States – https://www.gmfus.org/find-experts/bruce-stokes
Host bio:
Maureen Boyd is a CGAI Fellow
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Recording Date: 2 June 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jul 14, 2023 • 1h 8min
Defence Deconstructed: Recapping NATO's Vilnius Summit
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Robert Baines speaks to David Perry, Anessa Kimball, and Alexander Lanoszka about the 2023 NATO Summit which took place in Vilnius.
This episode is a recording from an event organized by the NATO Association of Canada.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
Participants' bios:
Anessa Kimball is an associate professor in the Department of Political Science at l'Université Laval – https://www.esei.ulaval.ca/en/our-school/directory/anessa-kimball
Alexander Lanoszka is an Associate Professor in the Department of Political Science and in the Balsillie School of International Affairs at the University of Waterloo – https://www.alexlanoszka.com
David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute–https://www.cgai.ca/staff#Perry
Kate Todd is CGAI's 2023-24 WiDS Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/cgai-wids_fellowship
Host's bio:
Robert Baines is the President and CEO of the NATO Association of Canada – https://natoassociation.ca/robert-baines/
Recording Date: 11 July 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Jul 13, 2023 • 51min
Energy Security Cubed: Reducing the Environmental Impact of Oil and Gas with Rhona DelFrari
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the costs and benefits of the Trans-Mountain Pipeline Expansion and the outlook for China's influence over minerals.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Rhona DelFrari about environmental efforts in Canada's oil and gas sector, and what Cenovus Energy is doing to reduce its emissions and total environmental footprint. You can find Cenovus Energy's 2022 ESG Report here: https://www.cenovus.com/Sustainability/Reporting
Guest Bio:
- Rhona DelFrari is Chief Sustainability Officer & Executive Vice-President, Stakeholder Engagement at Cenovus Energy
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "The Organized Mind: Thinking Straight in the Age of Information Overload", by Daniel J. Levintin: https://www.amazon.ca/Organized-Mind-Thinking-Straight-Information/dp/052595418X
Interview recording Date: July 11, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jul 10, 2023 • 56min
The Global Exchange: Shaping the Future of Diplomacy
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks to Pamela Isfield, Dan Livermore, and Michael Small about reforming the Canadian foreign service.
Participants' bios
Pamela Isfeld is the President of the Professional Associations of Foreign Office Officers (PAFSO) – https://pafso.com/about/presidents-message/
Dan Livermore is honorary senior fellow at the University of Ottawa's School of Public and International Affairs – https://www.uottawa.ca/faculty-social-sciences/public-international-affairs/about-school/senior-fellows/daniel-livermore
Michael Small is a Fellow at SFU’s Morris J. Wosk Centre for Dialogue – https://www.sfu.ca/dialogue/about/fellows/michael-small.html
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read & Watch:
“The Future of Diplomacy: Transforming Global Affairs Canada” – https://www.international.gc.ca/transparency-transparence/briefing-documents-information/briefing-books-cahiers-breffage/2022-10-uss.aspx?lang=eng
High Wire (Documentary)– https://www.nfb.ca/film/high-wire/
Deutsche Welle on YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCknLrEdhRCp1aegoMqRaCZg
Nothing is Foreign – https://www.cbc.ca/listen/cbc-podcasts/1059-nothing-is-foreign?cmp=DM_SEM_Listen_Titles&gclid=CjwKCAjw2K6lBhBXEiwA5RjtCZZK0_W_F18fabp267rMUbpmC6mQl41pxRUT6bVCj32Pet5LeDAjABoCbPYQAvD_BwE
Recording Date: 30 June 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jul 7, 2023 • 47min
Defence Deconstructed: Arctic Security Under Threat
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, David Perry speaks to Senator Tony Dean about the report from the Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence, and Veterans Affairs on Arctic Security.
Guest Bio:
Senator Tony Dean is the Chair of the Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence, and Veterans Affairs – https://sencanada.ca/en/senators/dean-tony/
Host bio:
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Read:
"Arctic Under Threats: Urgent needs in a changing geopolitical and environmental landscape" by the Standing Senate Committee on National Security, Defence, and Veterans Affairs – https://sencanada.ca/content/sen/committee/441/SECD/reports/2023-06-28_SECD_ArcticReport_e.pdf
The Regulatory Craft by Malcolm K. Sparrow – https://www.brookings.edu/books/the-regulatory-craft/
Recording Date: 5 Jul 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillipshttps://www.avascent.com/our-team/geordie-jeakins/.

Jul 6, 2023 • 35min
Energy Security Cubed: Chinese Energy Geopolitics with Dr. Erica Downs
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the concept of price controls on energy imports and the latest news from OPEC+.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Erica Downs about Chinese energy geopolitics, including its relationship with Russia, countries in the Middle East, and with the United States on oil and natural gas.
Guest Bio:
- Dr. Erica Downs is a Senior Research Scholar at the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University SIPA
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "Lady Death: The Memoirs of Stalin's Sniper", by by Lyudmila Pavlichenko and Martin Pegler: https://www.amazon.ca/Lady-Death-Memoirs-Stalins-Sniper/dp/1784382701
Interview recording Date: July 5, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jul 3, 2023 • 53min
The Global Exchange: Anticipating the Vilnius Summit
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson is joined by Kerry Buck, Imants Liegis, Julian Lindley-French, and Andrew Rasiulis about NATO and the upcoming summit in Vilnius.
Participants bios:
Kerry Buck is a retired Canadian Diplomat and a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/kerry_buck1
Imants Liegis is a retired diplomat and a member of The Alphen Group – https://thealphengroup.com/imants-liegis/
Julian Lindley French is the Chair of the Alphen Group and a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/julian_lindley_french
Andrew Rasiulis is a former defence public servant and a CGAI Fellow – https://www.cgai.ca/andrew_rasiulis
Host bio
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, https://www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read:
A Comprehensive Strategy to Secure Ukraine’s Future (2nd Edition)by The Alphen Group –https://www.cgai.ca/a_comprehensive_strategy_to_secure_ukraines_future_2nd_edition
Freezing Order by Bill Browder – https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Freezing-Order/Bill-Browder/9781982153328
The Rise and Fall of the Great Powers by Paul Kennedy – https://cheirif.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/paul-kennedy-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-great-powers-19891.pdf
Russia by Anthony Beevor – https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/715657/russia-by-antony-beevor/
The Future of War and the Defence of Europe by John Allen, Ben Hodges, Julian Lindley-French – https://academic.oup.com/book/39611
Recording Date: 3 July 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Jun 30, 2023 • 45min
Defence Deconstructed: Defence Innovation in the Five Eyes
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dave Perry speaks toGeordie Jeakins to discuss defence innovation in the Five Eyes and the lessons for Canada.
This episode is based on a report from Oliver Wyman and funded by the Department of National Defence’s MINDS Program. To read the report, go to: https://www.cgai.ca/innovating_for_defence
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding and Davie Shipyard.
Participant’s bio:
Geordie Jeakins is Manager at Oliver Wyman – https://www.avascent.com/our-team/geordie-jeakins/
Host Bio:
Dave Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Recording Date: 5 June 2023.
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillipshttps://www.avascent.com/our-team/geordie-jeakins/.

Jun 29, 2023 • 49min
Energy Security Cubed: Energy in Pakistan with Shehryar Omar
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including China's relationship with Qatar and a new Japanese-funded coal-fired power plant in Bangladesh.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Shehryar Omar about the challenges facing Pakistan's energy systems, and a vision for the future of energy in Pakistan.
Guest Bio:
- Shehryar Omar is the CEO of the Petroleum Institute of Pakistan
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "The Journey of Humanity: The Origins of Wealth and Inequality", by Oded Galor: https://www.amazon.ca/Journey-Humanity-Origins-Wealth-Inequality/dp/0593185994
Interview recording Date: June 20, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Jun 26, 2023 • 49min
The Global Exchange: Ukraine: How Does This End?
On this episode ofThe Global Exchange, LGen (ret'd) D. Michael Day speaks to H.E. Yuliya Kovaliv, H.E. Sabine Sparwasser, and Dr. Julian Lindlay-French about the evolution of the war in Ukraine and what it will take to create peace.
This episode is a recording from our 12th annual Canada in the World conference, which took place on June 2nd, 2023 in Ottawa. This episode was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Pathways Alliance, and our event Gold Sponsor
Participants Bios:
H.E. Yuliya Kovaliv is the ambassador of Ukraine to Canada.
H.E. Sabine Sparwasser is the ambassador of Germany to Canada
Dr. Julian Lindley-French is the Chair of The Alphen Group and a fellow at CGAI.
Host Bio
LGen (ret'd) D. Michael Day is a fellow at CGAI.
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to CGAI.
Recording Date: 2 Jun 2023.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
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Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips.