
The CGAI Podcast Network
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Latest episodes

Apr 23, 2025 • 60min
How the New Canadian PM should engage Trump on Energy
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Eric Miller about Canada-US energy relations in the context of the current Canadian election.
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe discuss the LPC and CPC costed platforms on energy.
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Guest Bio:
- Eric Miller is President of Rideau Potomac Strategy Group and a Fellow with CGAI
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is an Energy Security Analyst and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Inside Asia", by John Gunther: https://www.minotavrosbooks.com/pages/books/007655/john-gunther/inside-asia
- "Selected Non-Fictions" by Jorge Luis Borges: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/331517/selected-non-fictions-by-jorge-luis-borges-edited-by-eliot-weinberger-translated-by-esther-allen-suzanne-jill-levine-and-eliot-weinberger/
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Interview recording Date: April 22, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Apr 21, 2025 • 51min
A STEP into Saskatchewan Trade
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Angela Krauss and John Treleaven to discuss trade promotion and the experience of Saskatchewan Trade and Export Partnership, otherwise known as STEP.
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Participants' bios
-Angela Krauss is the Interim CEO and Senior Vice President of STEP. She leads the Marketing and Membership Development division with a focus on building membership and profiling their capabilities along with leading the marketing initiatives of the organization.
-John Treleaven is a career foreign services officer and trade commissioner. He formerly served as the Canadian Ambassador to the Philippines and was the former CEO and President of STEP.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
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Reading Recommendations:
- "The Premonition: A Pandemic Story" by Michael Lewis.
- "The Thursday Murder Club" series by Richard Osman.
Saskatchewan Trade and Export Partnership (STEP): www.sasktrade.ca
Forum for International Trade Training: www.fitt.ca
Rainhouse Manufacturing Canada Ltd. : www.rainhouse.com
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: April 17, 2025
Release date:
April 21, 2025

Apr 18, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Future of Canadian Defence: A Triple Helix Perspective
In this episode of #DefenceDeconstructed the Triple Helix team, David Perry, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine, Dr. Alexander Salt, Geordie Jeakins, Dr. Alexander Wilner, explore how current political dynamics, particularly ongoing elections, the evolving Canada–U.S. partnership, and advances in technology, are influencing the priorities and operations of the CAF and DND. Triple Helix is a network composed of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI), the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs (NPSIA) at Carleton University, and industry that explores how a range of emerging technologies intersect with defence.
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Guest bios:
- Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is the Vice President, Ottawa Operations and a Fellow at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, as well as Triple Helix's Executive Director and Gender Advisor. She is also a PhD Student at Deakin University, where she studies the influence the culture of the Canadian Army had on the killings of Somali civilians during Operation Deliverance.
- Dr. Alexander Salt has a PhD from the University of Calgary’s Centre for Military, Security and Strategic Studies and an MA in Political Studies from the University of Manitoba. His dissertation explores to what extent has the battlefield experience of the U.S. military influenced post-war organizational innovation.
- Dr. Alex Wilner is an Associate Professor at the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs (NPSIA) and the Director of the Infrastructure Protection and International Security (IPIS) graduate program, at Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada.
- Geordie Jenkins is an Associate at Oliver Wyman, the leading global aerospace and defence advisory firm. In this role, Geordie advises clients in government-driven sectors in Canada, the United States, and NATO allies on a variety of issues.
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- “Neuromancer” by William Gibson.
- “The Propagation Handbook: A guide to propagating houseplants” by Hilton Carter.
- “Foundation” by Isaac Asimov.
- “The Ones We Let Down: Toxic Leadership Culture and Gender Integration in the Canadian Forces” by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine.
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
18 April 2025

Apr 16, 2025 • 53min
Canadian Energy on the Ballot
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Dennis McConaghy about how the Federal election is engaging with climate, infrastructure, and energy issues.
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe talk about European natural gas, the potential for an Iranian nuclear deal, and China's commodity imports.
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Guest Bio:
- Dennis McConaghy is a former pipeline executive and a Fellow at CGAI
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is an Energy Security Analyst and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Fight: Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House", by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/fight-jonathan-allenamie-parnes?variant=43464319860770
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Interview recording Date: April 15, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Apr 14, 2025 • 51min
The New World of Tariffs
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Bernie Etzinger and Eric Miller to discuss the realities of tariffs on our most Canadian traded commodities: cars and car parts, steel and aluminum, oil, gas and potash, as well as Trump's further promises of tariffs on items like pharmaceuticals and lumber.
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Participants' bios
-Bernard Etzinger is a former Canadian diplomat with assignments in New York, Silicon Valley and Washington, DC, where he served as head of the press office spokesperson to Ambassadors Kergin, McKenna and Wilson. Upon his return to Canada, he was the senior executive leading communications in two federal government departments, before taking on a role as the Chief Communications Officer for The Ottawa Hospital, one of Canada’s largest hospitals.
-Eric Miller is a CGAI Fellow, his research focusing on United States politics/foreign policy, supply chains, the development of advanced technologies, East Asian trade, North American relations, natural resource markets, and the evolution of global interdependence.He is a regular media commentator and President of Rideau Potomac Strategy Group.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Demon Copperhead" by Barbara Kingsolver.
- "Trust: Twenty Ways To Build A Better Country" by David Johnston.
- "The Loom of Time" by Robert Kaplan.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: April 11, 2025
Release date:
April 14, 2025

Apr 11, 2025 • 25min
Looking at Data: The Current State of the Canadian Election
In this episode of #DefenceDeconstructed, David Perry sit down with the Founder, Chair and CEO of Abacus Data, David Coletto. The pair discuss key features of the Canadian elections campaign, the impact of the international issues and Donald Trump on the campaign, and a recent Abacus survey focused on international issues.
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Guest bios:
David Coletto is the Founder, Chair and CEO of Abacus Data. He is one of Canada’s best known and most respected public opinion analysts, pollsters, and social researchers. He’s a member of the Board of Directors of the Ottawa Board of Trade and Ottawa Riverkeeper and on the policy committee of Imagine Canada.
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Host bio:
David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "Bowling Alone: The Collapse and Revival of American Community" by Robert Putnam.
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
11 April 2025

Apr 9, 2025 • 47min
Falling Energy Investment and Canada's Flawed Economic Model with Charles St-Arnaud
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan interview Charles St-Arnaud about what the failure of other sectors to make up for declining energy investment after 2014 tells us about the deep issues present in the Canadian economy.
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe talk about the "Liberation Day" tariffs impact on oil prices and the potential for FID on LNG Canada Phase 2.
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Guest Bio:
- Charles St-Arnaud is Chief Economist at Alberta Central
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is an Energy Security Analyst and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Why Nations Fail: The Origins Of Power, Prosperity, And Poverty", by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson: https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/why-nations-fail-the-origins-of-power-prosperity-and-poverty/9780307719225.html
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Interview recording Date: April 7, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Apr 7, 2025 • 50min
Broken Trust: Managing an Unreliable Ally
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson interviews Perrin Beatty, PC, OC and Fen Osler Hampson to dive into their latest paper, Broken Trust: Managing an Unreliable Ally. They discuss concrete measures highlighted in the report to mitigate Canada's risk of depending on the U.S. from a defence, trade and economic perspective.
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Participants' bios
- Perrin Beatty, PC, OC is the former Minister of Foreign Affairs for Canada and former President and CEO to the Canadian Chamber of Commerce. He is currently a director and business advisor.
- Fen Osler Hampson is the is currently Chancellor’s Professor and Professor of International Affairs in the School. He former Director of the Norman Paterson School of International Affairs, served as Director of the Global Commission on Internet Governance (GCIG) and is the President of the World Refugee & Migration Council.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
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Reading Recommendations:
- "A Woman of No Importance" by Sonia Purnell.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: April 4, 2025
Release date:
April 7, 2025

Apr 4, 2025 • 27min
The Bloc Québécois Defence Platform
In this episode of #DefenceDeconstructed, David Perry sit down with Deputy Parliamentary Leader of the Bloc Québécois and representative of the Saint-Jean electoral district, Christine Normandin MP. They discuss the Bloc Québécois’ perspective on Canadian defence and Quebec’s role within it, as well as articulating her party’s vision for the future of Canadian defence in a world of declining nature of our U.S. relationship.
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Guest bios:
Christine Normadin MP is the Deputy Parliamentary Leader of the Bloc Québécois and represent the the Saint-Jean electoral district in the House of Commons. She was first elected in 2019 before being re-elected in 2021.
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Host bio: David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "Democracy or Else: How to Save America in 10 Easy Steps" by Jon Favreau, Jon Lovett, Tommy Vietor.
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
4 April 2025

Mar 31, 2025 • 49min
Energy Security Cubed: Navigating Geopolitical Risks for Canadian Trade with Dr. Lance Mortlock
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe Calnan interviews Lance Mortlock about the growing risks for businesses in Canada and what it could mean for Canada's place in the world.
You can find Lance's book "Outside In, Inside Out" here: https://www.lancemortlock.com/outside-in-inside-out
You can find Lance's recent article for Chief Executive Magazine here: https://chiefexecutive.net/cross-border-battleground-the-future-of-canada-u-s-trade-in-a-tariff-fueled-era/
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For the intro, Kelly and Joe talk about U.S. shipbuilding and the political obstacles to a return of Russian gas to Europe.
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Guest Bio:
- Dr. Lance Mortlock is the Managing Partner, Energy & Resources Canada at Ernst & Young
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is an Energy Security Analyst and Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "To Run the World: The Kremlin's Cold War Bid for Global Power", by Sergey Radchenko: https://www.indigo.ca/en-ca/to-run-the-world-the-kremlins-cold-war-bid-for-global-power/9781108477352.html
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Interview recording Date: March 7, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.