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The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
Episodes
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Sep 25, 2023 • 43min
The Global Exchange: Updating Canada's National Security Systems
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks with Greg Fyffe about current threats to Canadian national security, and potential upgrades to our NatSec systems which could help mitigate these threats.
Participants' bios
- Greg Fyffe is an Honourary Senior Fellow at the University of Ottawa and a former senior civil servant in Canada's security, intelligence, and immigration establishment
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read & Watch:
- "The Earth Transformed: An Untold History", by Peter Frankopan: https://www.amazon.ca/Earth-Transformed-Untold-History/dp/0525659161
- "At the Bridge: James Teit and an Anthropology of Belonging", by Wendy Wickwire: https://www.amazon.ca/At-Bridge-James-Anthropology-Belonging/dp/0774861525
Recording Date: September 19, 2023.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 22, 2023 • 49min
Defence Deconstructed: A Chat with the DND/CAF Ombudsman
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Charlotte Duval-Lantoine speaks to Gregory Lick, the DND/CAF Ombudsman, about his role in overseeing and supporting the CAF.
Beforehand, David Perry and Kate Todd talk about the most recent defence news, including Vlodomyr Zelenskyi's address to the Canadian Parliament.
This episode is part of a series on culture change and CAF Reconstitution, made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence's MINDS Program, CGAI's Strategic Sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, Irving Shipbuilding, and Hanwha Defence.
Participant Bio:
Gregory Lick assumed the role of Ombudsman for the Department of National Defence and the Canadian Armed Forces on November 1, 2018. https://www.canada.ca/en/ombudsman-national-defence-forces/information-about-office/ombudsman.html
Kate Todd is the 2023 Women in Defence and Security CGAI Fellow.
Hosts bios:
Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is CGAI's Ottawa Operations Manager and one of its Fellows.
Dr. David Perry is the President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Recording Date: 26 May 2023
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Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Sep 21, 2023 • 51min
Energy Security Cubed: Unpacking China's Energy System Advantages with David Fishman
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including updates on maritime transport fuels and the price cap on Russian oil trading.
For the interview section of the podcast, Joe talks with David Fishman about China's advantages and strategies on the development of its electricity system, and how these could be applied in the West.
Guest Bios:
- David Fishman is a Senior Manager at Lantau Group focused on China's electricity sector
Host Bio:
- Joe Calnan is the Energy Security Forum Manager at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "How China Escaped Shock Therapy: The Market Reform Debate", by Isabella Weber: https://www.amazon.ca/How-China-Escaped-Shock-Therapy/dp/1032008490
- "To Hold Up the Sky", by Cixin Liu: https://www.amazon.ca/Hold-Up-Sky-Cixin-Liu/dp/1250306086
Interview recording Date: September 14, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 18, 2023 • 1h
The Global Exchange: Takeaways from the G20 Summit in India
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson speaks with Jonathan Fried and Stewart Beck about what happened at the G20 summit hosted by India in New Delhi, and what it could mean for Canada.
Participants' bios
- Jonathan Fried is a CGAI Fellow and a Senior Advisor at Bennett Jones. Previous to this, Jonathan was the personal representative of Canada's Prime Minister for the G20, as well as Canada’s Ambassador and Permanent Representative to the WTO.
- Stewart Beck is the former President and CEO of the Asia Pacific Foundation of Canada. Prior to joining APF Canada, Mr. Beck served as the Canadian High Commissioner to the Republic of India with concurrent accreditation to the Kingdom of Bhutan and to Nepal.
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read & Watch:
- "American Prometheus: The Triumph and Tragedy of J. Robert Oppenheimer", by Kai Bird: https://www.amazon.ca/American-Prometheus-Triumph-Tragedy-Oppenheimer/dp/0375726268
- "The India Way: Strategies for an Uncertain World", by Dr. S. (Subrahmanyam) Jaishankar: https://www.amazon.ca/India-Way-Strategies-Uncertain-World/dp/9353579791
Recording Date: September 15, 2023.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 15, 2023 • 45min
Defence Deconstructed: Developing the CAF's AWS Prospects
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, Dr. Rob Huebert discusses the Canadian Armed Forces’ anti-submarine prospects with Capt (N) Blair Brown, Col Peter Saunders, and Warren Connors.
This episode is an excerpt from our conference, Canadian Anti Submarine Warfare in the Future Strategic Environment, which took place on June 15, 2023. It was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence's MINDS Program, CGAI's Strategic Sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, and Irving Shipbuilding; and our event sponsors: BAE Systems; IMP Aerospace and Defence; CAE; Seaspan Vancouver Shipyards and Bombardier.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
Participants Bios:
Capt (N) Blair Brown is the Commander of the Canadian Forces Maritime Warfare Centre
Col Peter Saunders is Director General - NORAD-Continental Defense Modernization
Warren Connors is the head of DRDC’s Underwater Warfare Section.
Host Bio:
Dr. Rob Huebert is a professor at the University of Calgary and a CGAI Fellow
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 15 Jun 2023
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Sep 14, 2023 • 43min
Energy Security Cubed: International Finance and Sustainable Development with Brad Setser
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan begin with a discussion on major issues in global energy security, including differing oil supply-demand balance forecasts and the fate of Volkswagen and Germany's industrial heft.
For the interview section of the podcast, Kelly talks with Brad Setser about the world of international finance, and how existing institutions could be used for sustainable development.
Guest Bio:
- Brad Setser is the Whitney Shepardson senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Interview recording Date: September 11, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 11, 2023 • 1h 1min
The Global Exchange: The Mood of Americans Ahead of the 2024 Presidential Election
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Colin Robertson moderates a webinar on the mood of Americans ahead of the 2024 Presidential Elections, and what it could mean for Canada's relationship with the United States.
For the webinar, the German Marshall Fund's Bruce Stokes presents the result of polls exploring public opinion on ahead of upcoming election, followed by a discussion of these results by former Canadian Ambassadors to the USA David MacNaughton and Gary Doer, alongside former Canadian Ambassador to the United Nations Louise Blais to discuss what all this means for Canada.
Participants' bios
- Bruce Stokes is a visiting senior fellow at the German Marshall Fund, and senior editor of the 2022 Transatlantic Trends Surve
- David MacNaughton is the Canadian President of Palantir Technologies, a data analytics and software firm based in Denver, Colorado. Prior to this appointment, he was Canada’s 24th Ambassador to the United States for three and a half years.
- Gary Doer was the 23rd Canadian Ambassador to the United States and former Premier of Manitoba.
- Louise Blais is a senior special advisor to the Business Council of Canada and Diplomat in Residence at the University of Laval. Louise was Canada’s Ambassador and Deputy Permanent Representative to the United Nations in New York from 2017-2021.
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Read & Watch:
- "Pacific War Trilogy", by Ian W. Toll: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B084SRTBJC?binding=hardcover&ref=dbs_m_mng_rwt_sft_thcv_tkin
- "Dilemmas of Free Expression", ed. Emmett Macfarlane: https://utorontopress.com/9781487529307/dilemmas-of-free-expression/
- "The Collector: A Novel", by Daniel Silva: https://www.amazon.ca/Collector-Novel-Daniel-Silva/dp/0062834878
- "The Globalization Myth: Why Regions Matter", by Shannon K O'Neil: https://www.amazon.ca/Globalization-Myth-Why-Regions-Matter/dp/0300248970
- "Why America’s Election is Canada’s Business", by Goldy Hyder and Louise Blais: https://www.policymagazine.ca/why-americas-election-is-canadas-business/
- "Forewarned is Forearmed: The Bilateral Lessons from Trump One", by Colin Robertson: https://www.policymagazine.ca/forewarned-is-forearmed-the-bilateral-lessons-from-trump-one/
Recording Date: September 6, 2023.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcasts!
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 8, 2023 • 50min
Defence Deconstructed: Working with Allies
On this episode of Defence Deconstructed, VAdm (ret’d0 Mark Norman speaks to Cmdre Micheal Jacobson and Gp Capt Richard Berry about interoperability with allies in the context of anti-submarine warfare.
David Perry talks to Kate Todd about the latest defence news:
Rustem Umerov is new Ukrainian defence minister: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/who-is-rustem-umerov-ukraines-new-defence-minister-2023-09-06/#:~:text=KYIV%2C%20Sept%206%20(Reuters),him%20to%20replace%20Oleksii%20Reznikov.
Status of the Ukrainian counter-offensive: https://globalnews.ca/news/9940875/ukraine-russia-counteroffensive-advances-sept/
Communications Security Baseline cyber threat assessment: https://www.cyber.gc.ca/en/guidance/baseline-cyber-threat-assessment-cybercrime
Business Council of Canada "Economic Security is National Security" Report: https://thebusinesscouncil.ca/report/economic-security-is-national-security/
David Common's reporting for the Indo-Pacific: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/hmcs-ottawa-east-china-sea-1.6959012
This episode is an excerpt from our conference, Canadian Anti Submarine Warfare in the Future Strategic Environment, which took place on June 15, 2023. It was made possible thanks to the support of the Department of National Defence's MINDS Program, CGAI's Strategic Sponsors Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics, and Irving Shipbuilding; and our event sponsors: BAE Systems; IMP Aerospace and Defence; CAE; Seaspan Vancouver Shipyards and Bombardier.
Defence Deconstructed is brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
Participants Bios:
Cmdre Micheal Jacobson is Director Submarine Policy and Plans for the Royal Australian Navy
Gp Capt Richard Berry is Deputy Force Commander for the Royal Air Force’s Intelligence, Surveillance, Target Acquisition and Reconnaissance (ISTAR) Force
Host Bio:
VAdm (ret’d) Mark Norman is a Fellow of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – https://www.cgai.ca/mark_norman
Dr. David Perry is President of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute – www.cgai.ca/david_perry
Recording Date: 15 Jun 2023
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Charlotte Duval-Lantoine. Music credits to Drew Phillips

Sep 7, 2023 • 1h 24min
Energy Security Cubed: The Roots of Crisis in Francophone Africa with Joe Ingram and Chris Roberts
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan discuss current events in energy security, including the Saudi and Russian extension of crude curtailment policies, offshore wind price spikes in the United States, and the concept of "carbon contracts for difference" in Canada.
For the interview section of the podcast, Joe talks with Joe Ingram and Chris Roberts about the intersection of resources, development, and foreign interference in Francophone Africa, and the resulting political instability which laid the groundwork for the recent coups in Niger and Gabon.
Guest Bios:
- Joe Ingram is a CGAI Fellow and a former official with the World Bank, where he worked for 30 years with a primary focus on Francophone Africa
- Chris Roberts is a CGAI Fellow, President of African Access Consulting, and a Sessional Instructor in International Relations at the University of Calgary
Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is the CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
Reading Recommendations
- "Soldier and State in Africa", by Claude E. Welch: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-modern-african-studies/article/abs/soldier-and-state-in-africa/694B14E68815E981008281FC6691B75C
- "Global Governance and the Emergence of Global Institutions for the 21st Century", by Augusto Lopez-Claros, Arthur L. Dahl, and Maja Groff: https://www.amazon.ca/Global-Governance-Emergence-Institutions-Century/dp/1108701809
- "Robert S. McNamara at the World Bank: In Retrospect", by Olivier Lafourcade, Leif E. Christoffersen, Anders E. E. Ljungh, Sven Burmester, Caio K. Koch-Weser, and Rainer B. Steckhan: https://elibrary.worldbank.org/doi/abs/10.1596/35898
Interview recording Date: September 5, 2023
Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 5, 2023 • 17min
The Global Exchange: Threats to Canadian National Security with Jody Thomas
On this episode of The Global Exchange, Jody Thomas gives a brief speech on Canadian national security priorities.
This episode is from our Annual Canada in the World Conference, which took place on June 2, 2023. This event was made possible thanks to the support of our strategic sponsors, Lockheed Martin Canada, General Dynamics Canada, Irving Shipbuilding, and Pathways Alliance, and the conference Gold Sponsor Raytheon.
Participants biographies:
Jody Thomas is the National Security Advisor to the Prime Minister of Canada
Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, www.cgai.ca/colin_robertson
Recording Date: 2 June 2023.
Give 'The Global Exchange' a review on Apple Podcast!
Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on Linkedin.
Head over to our website www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.