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The Canadian Global Affairs Institute
The CGAI Podcast Network is created and produced by the Canadian Global Affairs Institute. Join us each week to explore the energy, defense, and international affairs stories that matter to Canadians. Listen now to CGAI podcasts “The Global Exchange”, “Defence Deconstructed”, and “Energy Security Cubed”, and partner podcasts “Battle Rhythm" and “Conseils de sécurité”. Visit www.cgai.ca for more, or follow us on Facebook, Twitter, or LinkedIn.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
The Canadian Global Affairs Institute (CGAI) is a charitable, independent, non-partisan, research institute based in Ottawa, Ontario and Calgary, Alberta.
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Sep 10, 2025 • 50min
The Major Projects Office
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Joe Calnan and Kelly Ogle discuss the Major Projects Office and the possible direction of Canadian energy strategy with Monica Gattinger.
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss the potential of the Power of Siberia 2 gas pipeline and implications for LNG.
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Guest Bio:
- Monica Gattinger is a CGAI Fellow and Chair of Positive Energy at the University of Ottawa
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is VP Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Faith and Fear : The Free Trade Story", by G. Bruce Doern and Brian W. Tomlin: https://www.amazon.ca/Faith-Fear-Free-Trade-Story/dp/0773725342
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Interview recording Date: September 9, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 8, 2025 • 36min
The Element of Trust
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Philip Coggan to discuss his new book, "The Economic Consequences of Mr. Trump: What the Trade War Means for the World".
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Participants' bios
Philip Coggan is an economist and columnist for The Financial Times.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "The Economic Consequences of Mr. Trump: What the Trade War Means for the World" by Philip Coggan
- "Donald Trump, World-Order Wrecking Ball: ‘The Economic Consequences of Mr. Trump'" by Colin Robertson
- "Abundance" by Ezra Klein
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: September 03, 2025
Release date:
September 08, 2025

Sep 5, 2025 • 32min
From Buying to Building
In this episode of #DefenceDeconstructed, we sit down with Jordan Miller, to discuss his upcoming policy perspective titled "Shifting Defence from Procurement to Production." We discuss the proposed defence procurement agency and the eagerly awaited defence industrial strategy, and how they can best deliver the military the capabilities it needs in a sustainable way. We cover what it means to shift to a defence production focus, venture capital investments in defence, and how the public sector can make the necessary transformation.
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Guest bios:
Jordan Miller is a PhD candidate at the Royal Military College of Canada, and is writing on Ukraine's use of English-language information operations. He works in the defence and space industry, is a regular contributor to think tanks, writing on defence policy, space, and the war in Ukraine.
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Host bio:
Charlotte Duval-Lantoine is the VP of Ottawa Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "The Ledger: Accounting for Failure in Afghanistan" by David Kilcullen, Greg Mills and Rory Stewart
- "Why America Loses War" by Donald Stoker
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
05 September 2025

Sep 3, 2025 • 55min
The Trade Implications of a Canadian Carbon Border Adjustment Mechanism
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan talk with Dr. Tammy Nemeth and Ron Wallace about their recent paper for the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, "Carbon Borders: A Costly Misdirection Affecting Canadian Trade and Defence Interests".
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Guest Bio:
- Dr. Tammy Nemeth is a UK-based energy and ESG analyst
- Ron Wallace is a CGAI Fellow and former Member of the National Energy Board
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is VP, Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "A Critical Review of Impacts of Greenhouse Gas Emissions on the U.S. Climate", by the Department of Energy: https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/DOE_Critical_Review_of_Impacts_of_GHG_Emissions_on_the_US_Climate_July_2025.pdf
- "NGFS Notes relating to transition plans on climate target setting and climate scenario analysis", by NGFS: https://www.ngfs.net/en/publications-and-statistics/publications/ngfs-notes-relating-transition-plans-climate-target-setting-and-climate-scenario-analysis%3F
- "A framework for the voluntary disclosure of climate-related financial risks", by the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision, Bank of International Settlements: https://www.bis.org/bcbs/publ/d597.pdf
- "Past Tense: A Jack Reacher Novel", by Lee Child: https://www.amazon.ca/Past-Tense-Jack-Reacher-Novel/dp/0399593519
- "Rise to Greatness: The History of Canada From the Vikings to the Present", by Conrad Black: https://www.amazon.ca/Rise-Greatness-History-Vikings-Present/dp/077101354X
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Interview recording Date: August 27, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Sep 2, 2025 • 50min
Managing Change Within Our Southern Neighbour
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Jeremy Kinsman and John Negroponte to discuss the ongoing change in our geopolitical landscape and what it means for Canada.
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Participants' bios
- Jeremy Kinsman served as the High Commissioner to the United Kingdom, Ambassador to Russia, the European Union and Italy. He continues to speak and write on foreign affairs in Policy Magazine, and you can hear him on the CIC’s Red Passport together with Louise Blais and Peter Donolo.
- John Negroponte is the Vice Chairman at McLarty Associates. He served at the U.S. Ambassador to Honduras, Mexico, the Philippines, the United Nations and Iraq. He served as Director for Vietnam under President Nixon, Deputy National Security Advisor under President Reagan, Deputy Secretary of State under President Clinton and Director of National Intelligence under President George W. Bush.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "The Determined Spy: The Turbulent Life and Times of CIA Pioneer Frank Wisner" by Douglas Waller
- "Daikon" by Samuel Hawley
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: August 22, 2025
Release date:
September 02, 2025

Aug 29, 2025 • 34min
From Paper to Posture: Canada's Defence
In this #TripleHelix episode of #DefenceDeconstructed, we sit down with Vice Admiral (Ret'd) Ron Lloyd to discuss his new policy perspective, "Nine Actionable Decisions for the Prime Minister to Best Posture Defence". We discuss specific recommendations; the need to make changes to the underlying small p policy set in the Government of Canada, if you want to achieve big capital P policy outcomes. We also preview our upcoming conference "Charting Canada's Digital Ambition" on 16th September.
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Guest bios:
Vice Admiral (Ret'd) Ron LLoyd was the 35th Commander of the Royal Canadian Navy from 2016-2019. During that time he was also “double hatted” as the acting Vice Chief of the Defence Staff for almost half a year and as the first Chief Data Officer for the Department of National Defence and Canadian Armed Forces for a full year.
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Host bio:
Dr. David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "Nine Actionable Decisions for the Prime Minister to Best Posture Defence" by Vice Admiral (Ret'd) Ron LLoyd
- "How Big Things Get Done" by Bent Flyvbjerg and Dan Gardner
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
29 August 2025

Aug 27, 2025 • 57min
The Politics and Geopolitics of Trump's Oil-Related Tariffs on India
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, Kelly Ogle and Joe Calnan talk with Richard Bronze about the Trump tariffs on India related to imports of Russian crude oil, as well as a broad array of other geopolitical considerations.
For the intro session, Joe and Kelly talk about Trump's war on windmills, Carney's visit to Europe, and the question of re-creating natural gas fired power plants on aggregate.
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Guest Bio:
- Richard Bronze is Head of Geopolitics and co-Founder at Energy Aspects
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is VP, Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Chokepoints: American Power in the Age of Economic Warfare", by Edward Fishman: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/726149/chokepoints-by-edward-fishman/
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Interview recording Date: August 26, 2025
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.

Aug 26, 2025 • 54min
The Eagle and The Dragon
On this episode of #TheGlobalExchange, Colin Robertson sits down with Dr. Meredith Lilly, Jonathan Fried and Thomas d’Aquino to discuss their new paper as members of The Canada-U.S. Expert Group, "Between the Eagle and the Dragon: Managing Canada-China Relations in a Shifting Geopolitical Reality". This paper is a collaboration between The Norman Paterson School of International Affairs at Carleton University, Canadian Global Affairs Institute, and The School of Public Policy at the University of Calgary.
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Participants' bios
- Dr. Meredith Lilly is Professor and Simon Reisman Chair in International Economic Policy at Carleton University’s Norman Paterson School of International Affairs.
- Jonathan Fried served as Canadian Ambassador to Japan and the WTO, and the personal representative of the Prime Minister for the G20 and deputy minister and coordinator for international economic relations on Canada-Asia and global trade and economic policy.
- Thomas d'Aquino the founding CEO and president of what is now the Business Council of Canada.
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Host bio:
Colin Robertson is a former diplomat and Senior Advisor to the Canadian Global Affairs Institute.
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Reading Recommendations:
- "Between the Eagle and the Dragon: Managing Canada-China Relations in a Shifting Geopolitical Reality" by The Canada-U.S. Expert Group
- On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons From The Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder
- The Crisis of Canadian Democracy by Andrew Coyne
- "Andrew Coyne’s ‘Cri de Coeur’ for Canadian Democracy" by Thomas d'Aquino
- The Third Revolution: Xi Jinping and the New Chinese State by Elizabeth C. Economy
- Booze, Cigarettes, and Constitutional Dust-Ups: Canada's Quest for Interprovincial Free Trade by Ryan Manucha
- Outrageous on Netflix
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
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Recording Date: August 21, 2025
Release date:
August 26, 2025

Aug 22, 2025 • 15min
The Depths of Canadian Defence
In this episode of #DefenceDeconstructed, we sit down with Dr. Julie Kim to discuss her latest briefing notes, "The Canadian Patrol Submarine Project (CPSP) and its Geopolitical Implications".
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Guest bios:
Dr. Julie Kim is a Post-Doctoral Fellow leading the Korea Program at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and a Country Expert on North Korea for the Bertelsmann Transformation Index.
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Host bio:
Dr. David Perry is President and CEO of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Recommended Readings:
- "The Canadian Patrol Submarine Project (CPSP) and its Geopolitical Implications" by Dr. Julie Kim
- "Why Nations Fail: The Origins Of Power, Prosperity, And Poverty" by Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson
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Defence Deconstructed was brought to you by Irving Shipbuilding.
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Music Credit: Drew Phillips | Producer: Jordyn Carroll
Release date:
22 August 2025

Aug 20, 2025 • 43min
A Retrospective on Trans Mountain Pipeline Economics
On this episode of the Energy Security Cubed Podcast, we feature a re-release of an interview with Trevor Tombe about the financial and economic basis of the Trans Mountain Pipeline.
You can find Trevor's article for The Hub here: thehub.ca/2024-04-30/trevor-to…s-worth-every-penny/
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For the intro session, Kelly and Joe discuss new American "secondary tariffs" on India and the state of EV demand in the United States.
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Guest Bio:
- Trevor Tombe is a Professor of Economics at the University of Calgary, a Research Fellow at The School of Public Policy, and co-director of Finances of the Nation.
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Host Bio:
- Kelly Ogle is Managing Director of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
- Joe Calnan is VP Energy and Calgary Operations at the Canadian Global Affairs Institute
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Reading recommendations:
- "Last Barrel Standing? Confronting the Myth of “High-Cost” Canadian Oil Sands Production", by Kent Fellows: www.cdhowe.org/public-policy-res…anadian-oil-sands
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Interview recording Date: May 8, 2024
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Energy Security Cubed is part of the CGAI Podcast Network. Follow the Canadian Global Affairs Institute on Facebook, Twitter (@CAGlobalAffairs), or on LinkedIn. Head over to our website at www.cgai.ca for more commentary.
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Produced by Joe Calnan. Music credits to Drew Phillips.