Lemme Say This

Natalie Cochran seemed like she had it all: a good job as a pharmacist, a loving husband, and two kids. But then she quit her job to become a government contractor and started raking in dough, or so she claimed. Behind the scenes, Natalie was running a classic Ponzi scheme, scamming friends and family with fake contracts, fake government emails, and even fake cancer. But when the walls start closing in, lies alone won’t be enough to save her… These are the stories of the world’s most insidious Scamfluencers. And we are their prey. Every week on Scamfluencers, join co-hosts Scaachi Koul and Sarah Hagi as they unpack epic stories of deception from the worlds of social media, fashion, finance, health, and wellness. These influencers claim to be everything from charismatic healers to trusted financial insiders to experts in dating. They cast spells over millions. Why do we believe them, and how does our culture allow them to thrive? Listen now: Wondery.fm/SCAMSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

J. Lo and Ben, Bennifer to some and the greatest love story ever told to Hunter and Peyton, are back. The couple reunited during J. Lo’s press tour for The Kiss of the Spider Woman, produced, of course, by her ex, ex-again, and maybe-future-ex. Some call it fate, others call it PR, but the prophecy stands: they were always bound to find their way back to each other, one red carpet at a time. Are we buying tickets? If box office sales can heal heartbreak, we’re already in line.Meanwhile, Ben’s alleged cousin Jen (of Mormon Wives fame) is twirling through Dancing with the Stars alongside Dylan Efron, Alix Earle, and Whitney Leavitt. Hunter and Peyton give their scores, then dive into Rolling Stone’s list of the Best Songs of the 21st Century. Lemme Say This will be on hiatus until further notice, but stay tuned for updates from @hunterh and @peytondix for what’s next.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Comedian Jay Jurden is a reformed Barb, and he’s entered the Lemme Say This safe space to unpack the latest feud between Nicki Minaj and Cardi B. He didn’t come to play nice, but what even is nice? Sometimes, it’s cheering from the sidelines for a messy cheater. And the GOAT cheater? None other than Princess Diana.As three New Yorkers, Hunter, Peyton, and Jay also weigh in on Eric Adams dropping out of the mayoral race and revisit some of his legendary one-liners.Plus, Hunter and Peyton review Taylor Swift’s latest album The Life of a Showgirl, a glittery, chaotic release that has us all asking: is everything romantic? Lovers and haters alike will have something to say.Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Leonardo DiCaprio in a distressed haze with a vape isn’t method acting, it’s cinema bleeding into real life. This week, Hunter and Peyton review Paul Thomas Anderson’s latest crime thriller, One Battle After Another, a film that can’t be neatly defined but will leave lesbians in a chokehold thanks to Teyana Taylor’s top-energy.And speaking of the gays: comedian Caleb Hearon joins us to talk about his new HBO special, the chaos of internet fandom, and his upcoming role in The Devil Wears Prada 2.Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In the immortal words of Judge Judy: “Beauty fades, but dumb is forever.” This week, Hunter and Peyton put on their robes and bang the gavel, taking the courtroom through some wild legal findings: Beyoncé’s stolen records (recovered at last), Luigi’s courtroom body (tea), and Jimmy Kimmel silenced (fascism much?). Meanwhile, the song of the summer gets a late-breaking entry from Demi Lovato, who’s also gearing up to serve the masses with a Camp Rock sequel (yes, even while Disney is canceled).And joining the pod is Bolu Babalola, here to unpack The Summer I Turned Pretty finale (including Belly’s infamous bob), her new book Sweet Heat, and the maybe-asked-for sequel to My Best Friend’s Wedding.Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Turns out the 2025 Emmys were a snooze. Same goes for the first three episodes of The Paper, the much-hyped follow-up to The Office. (Shoutout to the Italian woman from The White Lotus with the Peppa Pig line, though. She came to work.)Hunter and Peyton also break down the new Jussie Smollett documentary and spin their theories on the saga that refuses to end. Plus, online comedian Lavelle Dontae drops in to talk about the wildest corners of the internet.Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If you’re getting texts from an unknown number that are starting to ruin your life, it might be time to check your close circle and maybe change that phone plan. This week, we break down the mind-blowing #1 movie on Netflix, Unknown Number: The High School Catfish. Peyton clocked the mystery the second she pressed play, but Hunter’s head was spinning.Also: Zoë Kravitz and Austin Butler team up for Darren Aronofsky’s Caught Stealing, but in these streets you’ll still catch her with Harry Styles. And with Swag II dropping, the Justin Bieber universe has turned upside down: an album with one too many tracks, ex-manager Scooter Braun now dating Sydney Sweeney, and ex-flame Selena Gomez’s mom allegedly in a mental health crisis while running (not so successfully) a mental health company.Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift (your English teacher) and Killa Trav (your gym teacher) are getting married. They dropped the engagement news on Instagram, and the internet promptly lost its mind on a Tuesday.This week, Hunter (testing out new character work) and Peyton (dressed as a gay athlete) also hand out summer superlatives, including who won and lost the season, and dive into gator-pop-girl drama between Ethel Cain and Lana Del Rey, while the queer-pop girls Betty Who (who?!) and Reneé Rapp are going at it too.Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Love Island cast is back together, and Hunter and Peyton are seated for the cinematic event of the year: the reunion. Out of the villa, the drama is hotter than ever. Somehow the Fiji heat is the least of their problems. Turns out when the cameras stop rolling, the podcast mics only add fuel to the flames. Nicolandria is going strong, Ace is still standing on business, and Huda’s accountability is nowhere to be found.This week, we also dive into The Summer I Turned Pretty (Belly, get your head right before you walk down that aisle), and Zosia Mamet joins to talk about her new essay collection Does This Make Me Funny?. She also declares she’s ready to join her husband in The Hunting Wives and confirms the fate of her beloved Girls character, Shoshanna Shapiro.Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Taylor Swift might never beat the capitalism allegations. After her Eras Tour became the first concert tour in history to surpass $1 billion in revenue, and lasted nearly two years, she’s already back with a new announcement: another album. And honestly? We’re kind of excited. The forthcoming project, The Life of a Showgirl, was announced in a surprising place: her boyfriend’s football podcast. Different for her. Also different? Jack Antonoff is off the album and, rumor has it, looking for unemployment.Hunter and Peyton also dive into Pamela Anderson’s comedic turn in The Naked Gun before welcoming the ultimate showgirl herself, cabaret star Countess Luann, to dish on RHONY memories. Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterListen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. Watch new episodes on YouTube and listen to weekly exclusive bonus content by joining Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting wondery.com/links/lemme-say-this/ now. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.