

Poetry For All
Joanne Diaz and Abram Van Engen
This podcast is for those who already love poetry and for those who know very little about it. In this podcast, we read a poem, discuss it, see what makes it tick, learn how it works, grow from it, and then read it one more time.
Introducing our brand new Poetry For All website: https://poetryforallpod.com! Please visit the new website to learn more about our guests, search for thematic episodes (ranging from Black History Month to the season of autumn), and subscribe to our newsletter.
Introducing our brand new Poetry For All website: https://poetryforallpod.com! Please visit the new website to learn more about our guests, search for thematic episodes (ranging from Black History Month to the season of autumn), and subscribe to our newsletter.
Episodes
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Oct 17, 2024 • 21min
Episode 80: Percy Bysshe Shelley, Ozymandias
In this episode, we closely read Shelley's "Ozymandias," a poem written in a time of revolution and social protest. We focus on the poem's sonnet structure, its engagement with--and critique of--empire, its meditation on the bust of Ramses II, and its afterlife in an episode of _Breaking Bad. _
To learn more about Percy Bysshe Shelley, click here.
Here is the text of the poem:
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Photo: Ramses II, British Museum

Oct 3, 2024 • 39min
Episode 79: W.H. Auden, Musée des Beaux Arts
In this episode, Shankar Vendantam joins us to read and discuss "Musee des Beaux Arts," a poem that explores the ways in which humans become indifferent to the suffering of others.
To learn more about Shankar Vendantam and the Hidden Brain podcast, visit his website.
To read Auden's poem, click here.
Thanks to Curtis Brown Ltd. for granting us permission to read this poem.

Sep 20, 2024 • 22min
Episode 78: Jericho Brown, Duplex
In this episode, we read and discuss Jericho Brown's "Duplex," a poetic form that he created in order to explore the complexities of family, violence, and desire.
This is one of several duplex poems that you can find in The Tradition (Copper Canyon Press, 2020), the winner of the 2020 Pulitzer Prize. Thanks to Copper Canyon Press for granting us permission to read this poem.
To learn more about Jericho Brown, visit his website.
To learn more about the duplex form, you can read Brown's essay on the Poetry Foundation's Harriet blog. We also love Jericho Brown's interview with Michael Dumanis in the Bennington Review.
Cover art: Lauren “Ralphi” Burgess. To learn more about her work, visit her website.

Sep 5, 2024 • 26min
Episode 77: Jennifer Grotz, The Conversion of Paul
Poetry engages in conversation. Today, we explore a long, beautiful, narrative poem weaving together the work of fellow poets while looking carefully at a Caravaggio painting, all reflecting on illness, death, and friendship.
For the poem, see here: https://www.nereview.com/vol-40-no-1-2019/the-conversion-of-paul/
For Grotz's incredible book, Still Falling, see Graywolf Press here: https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/still-falling
“Still Falling is an undeniably gorgeous book of love poems full of grief. In these pages, Jennifer Grotz writes line after line of direct statement in rhythms that would leave any reader breathless and wanting more. . . . I am in awe of Grotz’s power to grow and transform book after book. I cannot read Still Falling without crying.”—Jericho Brown
For the Caravaggio painting, The Conversion on the Way to Damascus, see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_on_the_Way_to_Damascus
For more episodes on ekphrasis, please see our website and keywords here:
https://poetryforallpod.com/episodes/
Thanks to Graywolf Press for permission to read this poem on the podcast. Jennifer Grotz's "The Conversation of Paul" was published in her collection titled Still Falling (Graywolf, 2023).

Aug 22, 2024 • 25min
Episode 76: Philip Levine, What Work Is
In this episode, we read and discuss Philip Levine's most famous poem, "What Work Is." We consider his deft use of the second-person perspective, the sociability and narrative energy of his poetry, and his deep concern for the insecurity that defines the lives of so working-class laborers.
Click here to read "What Work Is": https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/52173/what-work-is
Photo credit: Geoffrey Berliner
"What Work Is" was published in What Work Is (Knopf, 1991). Thanks to Penguin Random House for granting us permission to read this poem.

Aug 7, 2024 • 18min
Episode 75: Du Fu, Passing the Night by White Sands Post Station
What is a good life, and how do we make sense of the world when it seems like society is collapsing? In this episode, Lucas Bender joins us once again to discuss the work of Du Fu (712-770 C.E.), the great Chinese poet of the Tang Dynasty. Luke helps us to see how Du Fu’s “Passing the Night by White Sands Post Station” can be read in multiple ways depending on how one translates each word of the poem. In doing so, he reveals the poem’s concerns with aging, disappointment, and the possibility of hope in difficult times.
Click here to learn more about Du Fu.
Lucas Bender is the author of Du Fu Transforms: Tradition and Ethics amid Societal Collapse (Harvard University Press, 2021).
To learn more about Luke Bender, visit his website.
Cover art: Wang Hui, Ten Thousand Li up the Yangtze River, Qing Dynasty. Museum of Fine Arts, Boston.

Jul 26, 2024 • 24min
Episode 74: Diane Seuss, [The sonnet, like poverty]
This remarkable sonnet dives into issues of poverty, poetry, and grief. We talk about the pedagogy of constraint, while exploring the achievements, including the hardbitten gratitude, embedded in this poem.
Thank you to Graywolf Press for permission to read and discuss the poem. Diane Seuss's "[The sonnet, like poverty, teaches you what you can do]" was published in her collection titled frank: sonnets (Graywolf, 2021).
See the work (and buy it!) here: https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/frank-sonnets
For more on Diane Seuss, see here: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/diane-seuss
For more on the Sealey Challenge, see here: https://www.thesealeychallenge.com/

Jul 8, 2024 • 25min
Episode 73: Sor Juana Inez de la Cruz, Sonnet 189
In this episode, Professor Stephanie Kirk guides our reading of Sor Juana Inez de la Cruz’s “Sonnet 189.” Her scholarly insights help us to appreciate the nuances of Sor Juana’s poetry and her importance in her own lifetime and beyond.
Professor Kirk read Edith Grossman's translation of "Sonnet 189" from Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz: Selected Works. Copyright (c) 2014 by Edith Grossman. With permission of the publisher, W. W. Norton & Company, Inc.
To learn more about Stephanie Kirk’s scholarship, you can click here.
Cover image: Miguel Cabrera, posthumous portrait of Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz, 1750. Museo Nacional de Historia, Mexico City, Mexico. Public domain.

Jul 1, 2024 • 13min
Word Made Fresh (and Exciting Updates)
We're interrupting your summer this week with a few exciting updates about Poetry For All and an excerpt from Abram Van Engen's newly released book, Word Made Fresh.
If you want to join Abram for a book launch online on July 9 at 4pm Eastern, register for free by clicking this link.
And if you want a free subscription to Image Journal, which is an incredible faith and arts magazine, check out this offer here by clicking this link.
You can see the book here: https://www.eerdmans.com/9780802883605/word-made-fresh/
Or at Amazon: https://a.co/d/0j5d3utJ
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Thanks for listening.Links:Book Launch for Word Made Fresh — Book Launch for Word Made Fresh, July 9 at 4pm EST

May 22, 2024 • 20min
Episode 72: Victoria Chang, My Mother--died unpeacefully...
In this episode, we read one of Victoria Chang’s moving poems from her collection OBIT, and discuss how the poem explores the interplay between life, death, grieving, and memory as the poet tries to process her mother’s passing.
Thanks to Copper Canyon Press for granting us permission to read this poem, which was originally published in OBIT.
Victoria’s newest collection of poems, With My Back to the World,was inspired by the work of Agnes Martin and published earlier this year.
To learn more about Victoria Chang, visit her website.


