
Future U Podcast - The Pulse of Higher Ed
Jeff Selingo and Michael Horn discuss what’s next for higher education and talk with the newsmakers you want to hear from most. Find the latest news and insights into the current trends in higher ed on the Future U. Podcast.
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Jan 7, 2025 • 37min
The Resiliency of Remedial Education
More than a decade ago, a wave of research pointing to the inefficacy of remedial education was followed by a massive investment in rethinking how we prepare students who need extra support to access college. So why, after all that, does remedial ed still play such a big role on college campuses today? To help us tackle that question, we’re joined by Anne Kim, FutureEd Senior Fellow and author of a recent report on the remedial education reform movement. She discusses the history of remedial education in America and what it will take to move reform forward. Then, Jeff fields some provocative questions from Michael about who should go to college and how we can align incentives so no one profits off of unprepared students. This episode is made with support from the Gates Foundation.Links We ShareIncomplete: The Unfinished Revolution in College Remedial Education by Anne Kim, FutureEdStudent Success 2.0, Future U. The New Student Ready College, Future UChapters0:00 - Intro02:49 - Remedial Education in Context07:26 - Calls for Change11:29 - A Wave of Reform14:53 - Progress Stalls16:59 - Recommendations for a Reform Rebound19:33 - Responding to Criticisms of Remedial Ed24:58 - A New System with More Options31:00 - Correcting a Broken Business Model

Dec 10, 2024 • 21min
Chips and Higher Ed: What the Federal Investment Means for Colleges
The discussion kicks off with the CHIPS and Science Act's impact on education and workforce development. Community colleges are positioned as key players in training for a high-tech workforce, especially in the face of U.S.-China economic tensions. The partnership between a community college and Micron showcases how practical skills in mechatronics are being integrated with traditional education. There’s also a focus on fostering regional innovation, supporting marginalized communities, and forging educational partnerships that enhance job opportunities in the semiconductor sector.

Nov 26, 2024 • 44min
Developing a Tech Mindset at the Leadership Table
Join Dave Weil, an IT and analytics leader from Ithaca College, and Nicole Parsons Pollard, Provost at Georgia State University, as they dive into the importance of integrating technology into higher education. They explore the disconnect between tech and academic teams and share strategies to harness data analytics for student success. The conversation also highlights the need for collaboration in decision-making, improving perceptions of higher ed, and navigating complex partnerships. It's a vital dialogue on the future of tech in academia!

Nov 19, 2024 • 53min
How One Regional University Is Growing
Join Jonathan Koppell, President of Montclair State University and former dean at Arizona State University, as he shares insights on transforming regional colleges facing enrollment challenges. He discusses successful strategies for attracting underserved students and addresses the alarming trends in male enrollment among minorities. Koppell emphasizes the importance of hands-on learning, accountability in degree completion, and fostering a culture centered around the needs of students to enhance educational outcomes.

Nov 12, 2024 • 36min
The New Student-Ready College
While college-going rates have increased over recent decades, completion rates have hardly budged. On this episode, Michael and Jeff sit down with one entrepreneur working to change that. Mike Larsson is the co-founder and CEO of Duet, an organization collaborating with an online university to provide on-the-ground coaching and physical space for students. They discuss the role wraparound supports play in supporting more students towards graduation, the keys to reengaging students who have stopped out, the nationwide spread of hybrid models like Duet’s, and more. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Philanthropy and the Gates Foundation.Links We ShareCollege Reimagined by Jon Gabrieli et al.Chapters0:00 - Intro02:12 - The Founding Story of Duet08:53 - Reaching Students with “Some College No Degree”11:23 - A Personal Trainer for College13:17 - Duet’s Outcomes17:07 - “The Hard Policy Answer”21:00 - The Growth of Hybrid College24:39 - Affordability, Flexibility, and Disruption29:46 - Leveraging Public-Private Partnerships to Better Serve Adult Learners33:26 - Improving the Outcomes of Community Colleges

Oct 29, 2024 • 53min
Visiting Western Governors University: Growing and Evolving Pathways for Educating Teachers
On this episode of the Future U. Campus Tour, Michael and Jeff sit down with leaders from Western Governors University to learn about innovations around the university, with special attention paid to those at WGU’s fast-growing School of Education. They discuss the expansion of work-based learning with President Pulsipher and Provost Hills McBeth, examine the drivers of the Ed. School’s growth with Dean Ludwig Johnson, and hear from a WGU student (and 4th grade teacher), Madelyn Hurst, on how the college’s competency-based approach is shaping her teaching. This episode is made with the support of Western Governors University.Chapters0:00 - Intro03:26 - The History and Students of Western Governors University09:48 - Drivers of WGU’s Growing Programs16:36 - Expanding Apprenticeship-Based Degrees20:52 - The Future of the Degree in Skills-Based World24:10 - How AI Will Change the Work and Learning Landscape29:47 - The Current State of K-12 Education33:07 - How WGU has Evolved to Meet Changing Needs of Schools36:17 - Taking the Long View38:25 - The Downstream Effects of Competency Based Teacher Education42:47 - The Growth of WGU’S School of Education45:05 - How Apprenticeship is Transforming Teacher Education47:35 - Closing Thoughts

Oct 22, 2024 • 40min
Cutting College Costs, Board Tensions, & Consultant-mania
On this episode, Michael and Jeff riff through a range of topics. Among them: how no constituency is actually in favor of cost cutting on college campuses; whether consultants can play any productive role in higher ed; and how Disney’s succession drama holds many lessons for boards of trustees at colleges and universities. This episode is made with support from Ascendium Education Philanthropy and the Gates Foundation. Chapters0:00 - Introduction3:37 - Lessons for Higher Ed from Disney Succession Drama08:12 - Boards of Trustees and College Rankings13:57 - Cutting into the Cost of College19:18 - Consultants in Higher Ed23:51 - Professional Networks Built On-Campus31:30 - The Leaky K-12 to College Pipeline

Oct 8, 2024 • 58min
The Seismic Impact of College Athletics
The impact of college athletics is felt throughout institutions, but too often sports are considered separate from the rest of higher ed. On this episode, Michael and Jeff connect the dots between recent changes to college athletics and the campus-wide ripple effects they could have. They are joined by Matt Brown, author of the college sports newsletter, Extra Points, to chat NIL (Name, Image, Likeness), the transfer portal, and the implications of the student-athlete employment case. This episode is made with support from the Gates Foundation and Ascendium Education Group.Links We ShareExtra Points Newsletter by Matt BrownChapters(0:00) - Introduction(05:59) - Why College Athletics Impacts All of Higher Ed(08:16) - The NIL Case(16:06) - Will Student-Athletes Become University Employees?(18:36) - The General Manager Role in College Athletics(23:10) - The Transfer Portal(27:02) - The Implications for Lower Revenue Sports and Divisions(33:19) - Conference Realignment(35:51) - The Intersection of Politics and College Athletics(40:42) - The Interdependency of Colleges(47:20) - The Transfer Portal’s Impact on Student Success(52:45) - Potential Ripple Effects of Student-Athlete Employment Ruling

Sep 24, 2024 • 1h 2min
AI Goes to College: In the Classroom and Beyond
Much of the buzz around artificial intelligence centers on its potential to transform the college of tomorrow, but there are many schools making meaningful change with this technology today. On this episode, we go deep on the applications of AI from recruitment to instruction to supporting post-grad success. We sit down Lev Gonick, Chief Information Officer at Arizona State University, and Ashley Budd, Senior Marketing Director at Cornell University, to dig into the ways their colleges are leveraging the power of AI. This episode is made with support from CollegeVine.Chapters0:00 - Intro01:19 - A Brief Recent History of AI05:05 - AI Partnerships at ASU08:29 - An Admonition on Privacy10:56 - Classroom and Administrative Applications of AI15:46 - Prioritizing Projects18:15 - ASU’s Approach to Tech Partnerships22:35 - AI in the Year Ahead25:50 - AI’s Impact on Research30:11 - Diversifying the Project Portfolio33:55 - AI and Stanford’s Conference Decision35:27 - AI’s Applications in Recruitment and Admissions44:06 - Standardizing the Transcript48:51 - The AI Arms Race54:20 - Transactional or Transformational?Links We MentionAI-powered educational experiences underway at ASU Four Singularities for Research by Ethan Mollick Reading Ease Calculator created by Todd Rogers and Jessica Lasky-Fink, authors of Writing for Busy Readers

Sep 17, 2024 • 56min
Searching for Fit: The Impacts of AI in Higher Ed
On this episode, Jeff and Michael tackle the question everyone is asking: how will AI transform higher ed? For help in finding the answer, they turn to bestselling author and professor of computer science at Georgetown University, Cal Newport. They discuss AI’s academic and operational implications, its ethical and practical considerations, and the stages and timeline over which we can expect this technological transformation to unfold. This episode is made with support from CollegeVine.Links We Share“Bad Bets,” Lightcast“Good Jobs in Bad Times,” Future U Chapters(0:00) Intro(4:06) Contextualizing AI in Higher Ed History(7:03) Factors Delaying Implementation(8:50) How AI is Changing Knowledge Work(11:19) Should we Be Teaching about AI?(18:45) Educating Students on AI’s Ethical Implications(21:51) Differential Effects on Coding and Writing(23:46) How AI Could Impact Higher Ed Inside and Outside the Classroom(29:21) “The Development of AI That We’re Worried About”(33:12) Parallels with the Days of The Early Internet(40:56) AI’s Impacts on Writing(43:15) Adaptations Required to Integrate AI in Higher Ed
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