
Practical Wisdom for Leaders with Scott J. Allen, Ph.D.
Practical Wisdom for Leaders is your fast-paced, forward-thinking guide to leadership. Join host Scott J. Allen as he engages with remarkable guests—from former world leaders and nonprofit innovators to renowned professors, CEOs, and authors. Each episode offers timely insights and actionable tips designed to help you lead with impact, grow personally and professionally, and make a meaningful difference in your corner of the world.
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Jun 12, 2020 • 40min
Dr. Ron Riggio - Leadership: Here's What We Know...
Send us a textRonald E. Riggio, Ph.D., is the Henry R. Kravis Professor of Leadership and Organizational Psychology and former director of the Kravis Leadership Institute at Claremont McKenna College. Professor Riggio is the author of more than a dozen books and more than 100 research articles and book chapters in the areas of leadership, assessment centers, organizational psychology, and social psychology. He's served on the editorial boards of The Leadership Quarterly, Leadership, Group Dynamics, and Journal of Nonverbal Behavior.Quotes from This Episode"Leaders don't do leadership. Leadership is co-created by leaders and followers working together.""There are plenty of leaders who are effective but could be better leaders. In fact, there are some effective leaders who are very bad leaders.""Why do people follow bad leaders? That's a question we've been concerned with...""Leader development focuses on individual development focused on the leader. Leadership development is focusing on developing the collective capacity of leaders and followers, the unit, the team, the department." (For more on this concept, see David Day's article Leadership Development: A Review in Context)Riggio Related Resources Mentioned in this EpisodeWhat’s Wrong with Leadership?Inclusive LeadershipRon Riggio at Psychology Today (Blog)Ron's work at Amazon.comOther Resources Mentioned in this EpisodeThe Courageous Follower by Ira ChaleffTransactional and Transformational Leadership: A Constructive/Developmental Analysis (Kuhnert & Lewis - Applying the Work of Robert Kegan to Leadership) ♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

Jun 7, 2020 • 39min
Dr. Susan Murphy - Developing Leaders Across the Lifespan
Send us a textDr. Susan Murphy is Chair of Leadership Development in the Business School at the University of Edinburgh. She was formerly Director of the School of Strategic Leadership Studies at James Madison University and Professor of Leadership Studies. She has published in Leadership Quarterly, Organizational Behaviour and Human Decision Making, Journal of Vocational Behaviour, Journal of Business and Psychology, and the Journal of Applied Psychology. We explore leadership development across the lifespan - a concept with so many possibilities for practitioners and scholars alike.Quotes from This Episode"but at adolescence, if we could get more people thinking more broadly about leadership, broadly defined, I think it would be very, very useful.""...but the kids who are more outgoing, who might have early verbal skills would be the ones you might see taking the leadership roles." "...and one of the things we noticed in this data set of about 1000 people was, young people have very stereotyped views of what leaders do."Resources/Links to Discussion Topics:Susan's Profile Susan's Publications ♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

Jun 2, 2020 • 47min
Dr. Susan Komives - Creating community any place they may go...
Send us a textEpisode six features a relevant and timely conversation with Dr. Susan Komives, Professor Emerita at the University of Maryland. We had a wonderful discussion about a wide range of topics within the domain of leadership education. For those interested in developing their knowledge, skills, and abilities, Susan explores several insights. For those tasked with developing leaders, Susan shares her wisdom and reminds us that our ultimate goal is to prepare men and women to create community any place they may go...Quotes from This EpisodeOn approaching individual student leader development: "First, I would want to get to know them better build a relationship. But then I would also want to better understand where they are in their own conception of what leadership is.""Anybody in a leader role and anybody in a leadership context should look at making it an inclusive environment.""So if I were to emphasize anything it would be to teach people how to create communities around them any place they may go, and in the community, people care about you."On what she wants for students leaving a leadership program: "I would want them to come out saying I'm a person of character... I see myself as ethical, honest, and trustworthy."Resources/Links to Discussion Topics:Article - Developing a Leadership Identity: A Grounded TheoryBook - Exploring Leadership: For College Students Who Want to Make a Difference Book - Leadership for a Better World: Understanding the Social Change Model of Leadership Development♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 25, 2020 • 45min
Dr. K. Anders Ericsson - Expert Performance and Leadership
Send us a textK. Anders Ericsson is a Professor of Psychology at Florida State University. He is a pioneer in the study of expertise and the notion of "deliberate practice" as a core process for achieving expert performance. We discuss how his work, may translate to leadership and leadership development. Our conversation highlights several opportunities and considerations for aspiring leaders or leadership educators. In fact, for some practitioners and scholars, it could constitute their life's work...Quotes from This Episode"I would say that too many people are really looking for compliments. But basically, they're really not interested now and getting genuine reactions to what they were doing that if they actually wanted to get better they should pay attention to the things that they could improve as opposed more or less getting comments that make them feel good about what they just did.""And I think that's one of the signs that I would argue, has been true here for all the people that I would call expert performers, is that they actually are actively seeking feedback.""And it seems to me that the first step is actually recording and ideally by allowing our videotapes to be made, so you actually now have something that can be built up as a knowledge base.""Some of the experts I've talked to, are willing to share things that they did incorrectly. And I think that's the ultimate kind of confidence sign is that you have a good sense of what you can do. So you can actually show how you made mistakes when you started out, that will now actually be very helpful to other individuals who are in a similar stage of their career."Resources/Links to Discussion Topics:K. Anders Ericsson - Florida State UniversityBook - Peak: Secrets from the New Science of ExpertiseArticle - The role of deliberate practice in the acquisition of expert performance♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 18, 2020 • 39min
Ed O'Malley - Leadership: It's Risky and Rare
Send us a textEd O'Malley is the President & CEO of the Kansas Leadership Center (KLC). KLC is a non-profit organization committed to fostering leadership for stronger, healthier, and more prosperous Kansas communities. We discuss how KLC is exploring the activity of leadership and its unique and innovative approach to education. My favorite quote from our chat - "Leadership is about intervening skillfully so that others become mobilized to take up the cause." Yes!Quotes from This Episode"We're saying that leadership and authority are two totally different things. Sometimes people in authority, exercise leadership, sometimes they don't.""But we also believe that leadership is incredibly risky. And therefore we think it's incredibly rare. So we think leadership is an activity. It's a risky one. And therefore it doesn't happen very often.""It's mobilizing others to make progress on their most daunting challenges.""So that's what we're about at KLC. We work with thousands of people a year, building their capacity to solve problems and to seize opportunities."Resources/Links to Discussion Topics:Ed O'Malley - President and Chief Executive Officer, Kansas Leadership Center.On The Balcony - KLC Web SeriesKLC PublicationsKLC Teaching Resources♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 12, 2020 • 47min
Dr. Jon Wergin - It Has to Be With Others...
Send us a textDr. Jon Wergin is a Professor of Education Studies at the Graduate School of Leadership & Change at Antioch University. We discuss Jon's latest book, Deep Learning in a Disorientating World, and his thoughts on creating an environment where deep learning can occur. We explore the notion of a "deep learning mindset" as a way of being and the notion of constructive disorientation.Quotes from This Episode“We cannot learn deeply without feeling something.”"If you want people to learn deeply, it has to be with others…we all need other people to challenge our world view through dialogue.""Probably the most important skill that people need to learn to be able to help others is to master the skill of empathy."Resources/Links to Discussion Topics:Jon Wergin - Deep Learning in a Disorientating WorldDaniel Kahneman - Thinking Fast and SlowJohn Dewey - Art as ExperienceRon Heifetz - Leadership Without Easy AnswersDavid Blight - Frederick Douglass: Prophet of Freedom♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

May 5, 2020 • 54min
Dr. Kathy Allen - Leading From the Roots
Send us a textDr. Kathy Allen of Kathleen Allen & Associates and I explore the fascinating relationship between systems thinking, nature, and leadership. We discuss practical tips for people interested in developing their knowledge, skills, and abilities. We also explore considerations for leadership educators and program architects. The insights Kathy shares will keep your mind full and your priorities oriented toward a generative place.Quotes from This EpisodeFor educators - "Do an audit of the theories that you are teaching and see if they are whole system frameworks...any theory implies that you can control the outcome is a theory whose time has passed.”For Learners - "Stop giving away your personal responsibility and power to initiate and organize your own learning.""Leadership is about optimizing the whole system.""Profit equals the evolution of the whole system."Resources/Links to Discussion Topics:Purchase Leading from the Roots by Kathy AllenArticles by Kathy Allenhttps://kathleenallen.netA Leader’s Framework for Decision Making♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.

Apr 27, 2020 • 46min
Dr. David Rosch - I Have a Fear...
Send us a textDr. David Rosch is Director and Associate Professor of Leadership Studies at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. Dr. Rosch is an expert in the study and practice of developing student leaders. We discuss practical tips for people interested in developing their knowledge, skills, and abilities. We also explore considerations for leadership educators and program architects.Quotes From This Episode“I fear that we're not doing anything that matters.” “It’s not my ability to create great curriculum, it’s about my ability to create connections with the people that are a part of my curriculum that’s really going to make a difference.”We need “better mental models and mental representations of leadership.”“We need to create communities in stronger ways for these learners to be able to stay in engaged in a process of learning, to stay agile, in their context after the program...after the formal intervention.” ResourcesWe discussed the following in this episode: Lego Masters, Somm, Revisionist History with Malcolm Gladwell, & Neal Stephenson: Anathem.Learn more about David's work by visiting the Journal of Leadership Education - David Rosch, Google Scholar - David Rosch, or Illinois Leader Lab. ♻️ Please share with others and follow/subscribe to the podcast!⭐️ Please leave a review on Apple, Spotify, or your platform of choice.➡️ Follow me on LinkedIn for more on leadership, communication, and tech.📜 Subscribe to my weekly newsletter featuring four hand-picked articles.🌎 You can learn more about my work on my Website.