
Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl
Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.
Latest episodes

Jul 2, 2025 • 55min
How Craft Beer, and IPAs in Particular, are Changing the Hop Industry
Farm owner Diane Gooding, Liz Bauer of Garston Hops and Alex Nowell, Mellotone Beer Project brewer and CLS Farms consultant, discuss how the partnership between brewers and growers has evolved in the past 20 years. Learn about the role terroir and farm practices play in hop aroma and flavor, and how the industry is adjusting to a slowdown in hop sales. Moderated by Stan Hieronymus.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: Stan HieronymusGuests: Diane Gooding, Liz Bauer, and Alex NowellSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Hops, IPA, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, New Zealand, Farming, Flavor, AromaPhoto: John Holl

Jun 25, 2025 • 53min
What Does it Mean to be Local (Part 2)
What does it mean to be local, and what are the small things businesses do to have a true sense of self in that space?This is a continuation of last week's episode - recorded at Wheatland Spring Farm and Brewery in Virginia - where the panel goes deeper into the themes they tee'd up during the storytelling session. Guests include: John Branding of Wheatland Spring Farm and Brewery, Rob Rubba of Oyster, Oyster in Washington, DC Christian Gregory of Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen, and Sarah Searle of Quartzwood Farm Winery. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: John HollGuests: John Branding, Rob Rubba, Christian Gregory, and Sarah SearleSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Local, Virginia, Beer, Wine, RestaurantsPhoto: John Holl

Jun 18, 2025 • 53min
Diving into the Meaning of "Local" (part 1)
What does it mean to be local, and what are the small things businesses do to have a true sense of self in that space? A few weeks back Wheatland Spring Farm and Brewery in Virginia celebrated seven years of operation with a chill little festival that brought local artisans to its sprawling farmland. To kick off the day owners Bonnie and John Branding invited All About Beer editor John Holl to moderate a “storytelling” panel, where their friends and colleagues from the beer, food, and wine industries could go deep on topics that matter to them. Guests include: John Branding, Rob Rubba of Oyster, Oyster in Washington, DC Christian Gregory of Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen, and Ben Sedlins of Quartzwood Farm Winery. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: John HollGuests: John Branding, Rob Rubba, Christian Gregory, and Ben SedlinsSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Local, Virginia, Beer, Wine, RestaurantsPhoto: John Holl

Jun 11, 2025 • 42min
As Asheville Rebuilds, Highland Brewing Continues to Evolve
This week it’s a look under the hood of Highland Brewing in Asheville. The venerable institution has been going strong for more than 30 years and has grown and adapted over two generations of ownership. From the Craft Brewers Conference in Indianapolis, this episode was recorded before the death of Highland Brewing founder Oscar Wong. Guests are: Nikki Mitchell the VP of Brand Development and Brock Ashburn, the VP of Operations. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsBrewery Branding Co.Since 2009, Brewery Branding has been crafting merch that helps breweries thrive.They’re born and raised in Portland, Oregon, giving them front row seats to the craft beer revolution and inspiring them to serve as your industry ally for everything branded: apparel, headwear, drinkware, and all the “wouldn’t it be cool if…” ideas you can dream up. Brewery Branding has been there, done that, and made the t-shirts to prove it. Brewery Branding didn’t rise to the top by being just another supplier; they’re your merch mercenaries ready to get in the trenches with you. Their expert design team, online stores, warehousing, and fulfillment services are here to make your life easier—and your custom goods more profitable than painful.Whether you're refreshing your retail space, gearing up for festival season, or launching a new product in retail, Brewery Branding delivers custom goods that are on-trend, on-brand, and ready to succeed. From the smallest batch to the biggest order, nothing gets them more excited than raising a glass to your success.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: John HollGuests: Nikki Mitchell and Brock AshburnSponsors: Brewery Branding, All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Asheville, History, Brewing, Volleyball, evolutionPhoto: John Holl

Jun 4, 2025 • 1h 5min
The Key to Crafting World Class Barrel-aged Beer
Three of the country's best barrel-aging brewers get together for a candid conversation about what goes into the craft. It's art, science, and a commitment to quality. Listen in as Quinn Reeder of Boulevard Brewing, Marty Scott of Revolution Brewing, and Andrew Hood of Sun King Brewery share their deep knowledge. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsBrewery Branding Co.Since 2009, Brewery Branding has been crafting merch that helps breweries thrive.They’re born and raised in Portland, Oregon, giving them front row seats to the craft beer revolution and inspiring them to serve as your industry ally for everything branded: apparel, headwear, drinkware, and all the “wouldn’t it be cool if…” ideas you can dream up. Brewery Branding has been there, done that, and made the t-shirts to prove it. Brewery Branding didn’t rise to the top by being just another supplier; they’re your merch mercenaries ready to get in the trenches with you. Their expert design team, online stores, warehousing, and fulfillment services are here to make your life easier—and your custom goods more profitable than painful.Whether you're refreshing your retail space, gearing up for festival season, or launching a new product in retail, Brewery Branding delivers custom goods that are on-trend, on-brand, and ready to succeed. From the smallest batch to the biggest order, nothing gets them more excited than raising a glass to your success.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: John HollGuests: Quinn Reeder, Marty Scott, Andrew HoodSponsors: Brewery Branding, All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Barrels, Fun, Quality, Science, BourbonPhoto: John Holl

May 28, 2025 • 1h 1min
The Tables are Turned with John Holl in the Guest Seat
Ashleigh Carter of Bierstadt Lagerhaus interviews John Holl. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: Ashleigh CarterGuest: John HollSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Journalism, Conversation, LagerPhoto:

May 21, 2025 • 51min
The State of Little Beer 2025
Every year at Little Beer editor John Holl gets to host a panel with great brewers about how they brew small and what the consumer appetite is like for low ABV offerings. This year was no exception. As the pints were flowing on the Duluth, GA town green he sat down with Natalie Rose Baldwin the brewmaster at the lager-focused Wayfinder Beer in Portland, Oregon; Shaun Yasaki the Brewmaster and owner of Noble Beast Brewing Company in beautiful Cleveland Ohio; and Brandon Plyler the beer educator at Edmund’s Oast Brewing in South Carolina. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: John HollGuests: Natalie Rose Baldwin, Shaun Yasaki, and Brandon PlylerSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Brewing, ABV, EisbockPhoto: Don Tse

May 14, 2025 • 44min
The Intersection of Art and Beer
Em Sauter of the All About Beer Podcast and Pints and Panels moderates a conversation on beer and art. She is joined by Eric Tennant, founder head brewer at Benchtop Brewing, Brendon Boudwin. co-founder at Carbon Copy Brewing, Harrison Fahrer, co-owner and general manger of Cellarest Beer Project and Mark Goodwin- co-owner and director of fermentation at Cellarest Beer Project. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: Em SauterGuests: Eric Tennant, Brendon Boudwin, Harrison Fahrer, and Mark GoodwinSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Brewing, Art, Labels, AI, Waggon WheelPhoto: John Holl

May 7, 2025 • 50min
May is Mild Month. A Trio of Brewers Celebrate English Ales.
May is mild month, so this week’s episode features a panel on traditional English styles recorded at Little Beer V, the great festival hosted by Good Word Brewing in Duluth, GA. It’s moderated by Don Tse and features a trio of knowledgeable brewers. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.

Apr 30, 2025 • 52min
Talking 30 Years of Allagash Brewing With Rob Tod
A conversation with Rob Tod of Allagash Brewing. This year the Portland, Maine brewery marks 30 years in business. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: John HollGuest: Rob TodSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Tags: Brewing, Maine, White, Lager, Business, MetsPhoto: John Holl