
Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl
Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.
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Apr 16, 2025 • 50min
A Bright Spot in Beer: Sun King Brewery Brings the Flavor
A conversation with Dave Colt, the co-founder, CEO, and Brewmaster of Sun King Brewery in Indianapolis. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Visit IndyYou love craft beer. You’ll love Indy.The Indy Craft Pass is your free passport to 40+ of the city’s best breweries — Sun King, Metazoa, Upland, and so many more. Check in, earn points, score swag — yes, beer can actually win you prizes! Sip local, explore new taprooms, and make your beer run count. Grab your free Indy Craft Pass now at VisitIndy.com — and let the good beers roll! Host: John HollGuest: Dave ColtSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Visit IndyTags: Brewing, Taproom, Hospitality, IndianaPhoto: John Holl

Apr 9, 2025 • 55min
Great Pints in a Memorable Setting Make Kismetic Beer Co. a Must Visit
We’re back in Indianapolis this week for a conversation with the couple behind Kismetic Beer Company - Nicole and Ryan Oesch. It’s a conversation on taproom aesthetics, beers that inspire, and community building. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Visit IndyYou love craft beer. You’ll love Indy.The Indy Craft Pass is your free passport to 40+ of the city’s best breweries — Sun King, Metazoa, Upland, and so many more. Check in, earn points, score swag — yes, beer can actually win you prizes! Sip local, explore new taprooms, and make your beer run count. Grab your free Indy Craft Pass now at VisitIndy.com — and let the good beers roll! Host: John HollGuests: Nicole Oesch, Ryan OeschSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Visit IndyTags: Brewing, Taproom, Hospitality, IndianaPhoto: John Holl

Apr 2, 2025 • 49min
Modern Brewing in a Historic Indy Car Location
This week starts our road to Indianapolis and the upcoming Craft Brewers Conference. Indianapolis is a great city to visit and has a host of excellent breweries. One of them, Guggman Haus Brewing Co. joins the show to talk about about lagers, Indy Car racing, and building a family business. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Visit IndyYou love craft beer. You’ll love Indy.The Indy Craft Pass is your free passport to 40+ of the city’s best breweries — Sun King, Metazoa, Upland, and so many more. Check in, earn points, score swag — yes, beer can actually win you prizes! Sip local, explore new taprooms, and make your beer run count. Grab your free Indy Craft Pass now at VisitIndy.com — and let the good beers roll! Host: John HollGuests: Abby Gorman and Derek GuggenbergerSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Visit IndyTags: Lager, Hospitality, Indiana, RacingPhoto: John Holl

Apr 1, 2025 • 52min
This Week in Rauchbier 2025
Welcome to This Week in Rauchbier for April 1, 2025. Our Rauchbier spotlight is a recording from Dovetail Brewery's annual Thank You For Smoking Event. It's a panel discussion that includes Bill Wesselink and Hagen Dost of Dovetail, Lane Fearing and Ryan Walker of Roaring Table, Greg Browne of Geneva Lager Works and Cesar Marron of Sketchbook Brewing Company. Then Bart Watson the President and CEO of the Brewers Association joins us to share the latest growth and success of Rauchbier in the marketplace. Enjoy these audio smoky delights. Thanks to Hagen and Bill for the inspiration to do this show. Hear the genesis of This Week in Rauchbier on episode 5 of Drink Beer, Think Beer.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.Host: John HollGuests: Bart Watson, Bill Wesselink, Hagen Dost, Lane Fearing, Ryan Walker, Greg Browne, and Cesar MarronTags: beer, craft beer, rauchbier, smoke, April Fool's DayMusic for this episode:NewsSting by Kevin MacLeodLink: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/4124-newsstingLicense: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/

Mar 26, 2025 • 42min
How BarrieHaus Beer Co. Approaches Lagers and Hospitality
A conversation about lager brewing with Brittany Barrie and Jim Barrie of BarrieHaus Beer Co. in Tampa, Florida. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuests: Brittany Barrie and Jim BarrieSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp StickersTags: Lager, Hospitality, Florida, DrinkingPhoto: John Holl

Mar 19, 2025 • 33min
A Saison for Every Season
A conversation with Kyle DePietro, the brewer and owner of Sasanoa Brewing.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuest: Kyle DePietroSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp StickersTags: Saison, Maine, FarmingPhoto: John Holl

Mar 12, 2025 • 50min
Diving into Czech Lagers with Chris Lohring of Notch Brewing
A conversation with Chris Lohring of Notch Brewing on the vexing, fascinating, and flavorful world of Czech-style LagersFor more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuest: Chris LohringSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp StickersTags: Czech lager, hops, malt, brewing, travelPhoto: John Holl

Mar 5, 2025 • 44min
Hop Butcher for the World on the Status of IPA
Jude La Rose, co-founder and president of Chicago's Hop Butcher for the World, shares insights on the dynamic world of IPAs. He discusses the rise of hazy IPAs and their cultural significance, alongside the evolution of brewing techniques. Jude highlights the importance of community engagement and intentional decision-making in navigating brewery ownership. He also imagines a perfect taproom experience filled with connection and joy, all while celebrating the diversity and innovation within the IPA category.

Feb 26, 2025 • 43min
Full Frame Beer is Ready to Open in Denver
A conversation with Alyssa Hoberer and Jacob Kemple as they get ready to open up Full Frame Beer in Denver, Colorado. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuests: Alyssa Hoberer and Jacob KempleSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp StickersTags: Denver, IPA, Community, Openings, Food, Service, HospitalityPhoto: Full Frame Beer

Feb 19, 2025 • 45min
Templin Family Brewing Plans for the Future
This episode goes to Utah to talk with Kevin Templin of Templin Family Brewery about taking beers slow, brewing with unusual ingredients, an exploration into natural wine, and how low ABV beers can help foster conversation and community. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsStomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code THINKBEER for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuests: Kevin TemplinSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp StickersTags: Utah, Dandelions, IPA, Lager, LawsPhoto:
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