

Drink Beer, Think Beer With John Holl
All About Beer
Drink Beer, Think Beer is a weekly conversation with brewers, growers, and other brewing industry professionals that explores the art, culture, and business of craft beer. Hosted by John Holl and recorded on location, this podcast gets to the bottom of every pint and offers insight into the dynamic world of beer.
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Oct 29, 2025 • 42min
Heavy Seas Charts a New Path Forward
Hugh Sisson of Heavy Seas returns to the program to talk about the brewery joining B3, a collective of brewers. He also touches on the importance of hospitality, innovation, and ways to navigate the current state of the beer industry. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.All About BeerAt All About Beer, we’re honored to share the stories that define the beer community, and we couldn’t do it without the generous support of our underwriting sponsors. Their commitment helps sustain independent beer journalism, allowing us to highlight the people, places, and passion behind every pint. Their partnership ensures these stories continue to inspire, connect, and celebrate the craft we all love. Join our underwriters today and help make an impact on independent journalism covering the beer industry. Host: John HollGuest: Hugh SissonSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish HeadTags: Business, Hospitality, EvolutionPhoto: Heavy Seas Beer

Oct 22, 2025 • 51min
A Beer Drinking Milestone Decades in the Making
The beer world is filled with achievements. A few weeks back the Great American Beer Festival handed out its annual awards. Around Denver there were other competitions like Alpha King and Krispy King. Brewers might be crowned in “best of” lists by newspapers or local magazines. Way back in the day Wynkoop Brewery would hand out its beer drinker of the year award.Other milestones are more private and personal. Don Tse, recently hit an important beer milestone. For nearly thirty years he has been chronicling and cataloguing every beer he has consumed. The number is impressive as is his commitment to the cause. Tse a prolific writer and his work appears in magazines, on Forbes.com, and he co-hosts the All About Beer podcast. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuest: Don TseSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish HeadTags: Tasting, Travel, Milestones, CanadaPhoto: Don Tse

Oct 15, 2025 • 51min
From the Brewhouse to the C-Suite: The Leadership Challenge
Andy Crouch leads a dynamic discussion featuring brewing visionaries. Sean Lawson shares insights on growing a tiny brewery into a larger operation while focusing on craft. Basil Lee talks about blurring roles and adapting management styles. Paul Saylor emphasizes the importance of delegating tasks and nurturing staff growth. Roy Milner offers lessons on building a brewery brand and collaborating with investors. The panel dives into the delicate balance of creativity and financial stability, offering a treasure trove of leadership wisdom.

Oct 8, 2025 • 46min
Selling Lager in the Age of Moderation
The Year of the Lager has been predicted for decades, and it is finally coming true. And the timing couldn’t be better. Drinking habits continue to shift and younger audiences are increasingly embracing moderation or even alcohol abstinence. The craft beer industry finds itself at a crossroads. After decades of solid and sometimes explosive growth, craft beer faces both a challenge and an opportunity. Lager, with its approachable strength and depth of flavor, is uniquely positioned to thrive in this environment. And while craft lager comprises a small fraction of the beer market, it has never been more popular or relevant. Today we’re going to explore how to reframe and sell lager for audiences who value balance, flavor, and authenticity, in a moment when many aren’t reaching for a pint.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.Host: Andy CrouchGuests: Todd DiMatteo, Blake Tyres, Greg EngertSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish HeadTags: Pours, Lager, Octoberfest, PilsnerPhoto: Andy Crouch

Oct 1, 2025 • 54min
Where to Drink Beer in Denver (2025 Great American Beer Preview)
It’s just about that time of year again when the beer faithful travel to Denver for the Great American Beer Festival. But truth be told, there’s so much do to in the Mile High City that even if you don’t go to the convention center there’s endless beer fun to be had. A trio of local experts - Jonathan Shikes of the Denver Post, Tristan Chan of Porch Drinking, and Dustin Craft of Malteurop joins host John Holl to break down where you should go to eat, drink, and be merry. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuests: Tristan Chan, Dustin Craft, Jonathan ShikesSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish HeadTags: Pours, Lager, Denver, Bierstadt, Great American Beer FestivalPhoto: John Holl

Sep 24, 2025 • 54min
Neil Witte Wants You to Think About Beer Pours
Neil Witte wants you to start thinking about how your beer is poured. The Master Cicerone, brewery consultant, educator, and draft technician has long been advocating for clean lines and proper service, but as of late he has been thinking about how beer is presented, what that does for flavor and the customer experience. After listening to this conversation, you’re going to give the man what he wants. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuest: Neil WitteSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish HeadTags: Pours, Foam, Glassware, Beer, Tradition, InnovationPhoto: John Holl

Sep 17, 2025 • 50min
The Importance of the Beer Culture Center
The Beer Culture Center was founded by Liz Garibay, a long-time museum professional. When she sketched it out in 2013 she wanted it to be a place that would look at history and society through the lens of drinking. The idea came to life and has now presented hundreds exhibits and events around the country. It’s important and necessary work, one everyone in the industry should be supporting. The center also hosts the annual Beer Culture Summit, a multi-day, multi-disciplinary experience that tells the story of beer, its people, its history, and its importance. As the center expands, it recently announced its first Beer History Studies Fellow, Onteya Zachary. She will share insight into her research and more. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuests: Liz Garibay, Onteya ZacharySponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish HeadTags: Chicago, Beer Culture Center, HistoryPhoto:

Sep 10, 2025 • 41min
Making the Long Drive for Fresh Hops: Offset Bier Focuses on Community and Flavor
In Park City, Utah, Offset Bier is doing big things. In a state with laws that can make it tough to be a brewer, Conor Brown, the brewery founder, is doing what he can to bring fresh flavorful beer to the people all while creating a welcoming community space. He’s currently working to build out the brewery footprint, bringing in new equipment and adding more space, and at this time of year he finds the time to make frequent trips to Idaho where he loads up on fresh hops to bring back to the brewery for quick turnaround brew days. It's the kind of commitment that bodes well for the future of craft beer.For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.Host: John HollGuest: Conor BrownSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, Dogfish HeadTags: Utah, IPA, Hops, Growth, CommunityPhoto: Aaron Grove

Sep 3, 2025 • 40min
Reassessing a Career in Brewing
We’re at a curious point in American brewing. Some talented brewers are choosing to walk away from a career they have loved. It’s not a bad thing, just part of the evolution. This week Derek Gallanosa shares his journey. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: John HollGuest: Derek GallanosaSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Dogfish HeadTags: San Diego, Brewing, JobPhoto: Matt Furman, Furman Photography

Aug 27, 2025 • 46min
Barrel pH1 Arrives at Off Color Brewing
We’re talking about barrels, branding, and business with John Laffler of Off Color Brewing. This is insight from the Chicago brewer that you’re not going to want to miss. For more Drink Beer, Think Beer check out All About Beer.SponsorsDogfish Head Craft BreweryCalling all hop heads! Dogfish Head’s 60 Minute IPA is a fantastically hoppy India Pale Ale that’s beautifully balanced thanks to their unique continual hopping method. Delivering a pungent hop flavor that isn’t crushingly bitter, 60 Minute is continually hopped throughout the boil for a full 60 minutes … starting to see where the name comes from?! Check out dogfish.com to learn more and to find some 60 Minute near you! Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE. Please drink responsibly.Stomp StickersStomp Stickers is a proud member of the Brewers Association that produces a wide variety of printed brewery products such as beerlabels, keg collars, coasters, beer boxes and much more. Stomp’s website features an easy-to-use design tool, low quantity orders, fast turn times, and free domestic shipping. Visit StompStickers.com and use code FIRSTRUN for 15% off your first order.The 5th IngredientIf you're running a brewery owner or operator, Beer30 by The 5th Ingredient is the ultimate command center. The most powerful brewery management software on the market, Beer30 handles the entire brewing workflow, from recipe development to production. Once your beer is brewed and ready, it seamlessly manages your inventory and streamlines your brewery's sales and distribution--all in the same easy-to-use platform. Beer30 lets you get back to the beer and the people that made you fall in love with this industry in the first place. And no other brewery management software gives you the ability to truly master your business and get the insights that you need to thrive in an increasingly competitive industry. Visit the5thingredient.com/AllAboutBeer today to learn more and receive 3 free months of Beer30.Host: John HollGuest: John LafflerSponsors: All About Beer, Stomp Stickers, The 5th Ingredient, Dogfish HeadTags: History, Ales, Barrels, New Belgium, ChicagoPhoto: Dynasty Brewing


