
Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show.On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_PodcastOn YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqOn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/
Latest episodes

May 14, 2019 • 47min
DtSR Episode 346 - Green Waxes Mostly Academically
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week, Rafal gets the rare occasion of sitting down face-to-face with someone and do an interview in person. Andy Green is a great if not sharky fellow, who helped me get over my PG rating for this podcast. So ... it's probably PG-13. Highlights from this week's show include... Andy talks about BSides Atlanta and the labor of love that is getting a conference stood up We talk about conference drama - because we all need more of that in our lives Andy discusses academic programs, shaping young minds, and being a universally beloved professor (not) Guest: Mr. Andy Green ( @SecProfGreen ) - Andy is a lecturer of Information Security at Georgia's Kennesaw State University. When he's not running Atlanta's BSides ATL he teaches classes in the Information Security and Assurance degree program, in the Information Systems department of the Michael J. Coles College of Business at Kennesaw State University. Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

May 7, 2019 • 42min
DtSR Episode 345 - RaffCon the Podcast
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week on the podcast, Rafal gets some one on one time with Raffael Marty ... and it's #RaffCon. Highlights from this week's show include... Raf & Raffy discuss the origins of #RaffCon Raffy talks through Artificial Intelligence...in security Raf and Raffy dive into "risk management" Guest: Raffael Marty - ( @raffaelmarty ) - Data analytics and visualization enthusiast. Interested in large-scale big data and cloud infrastructures to support cyber security use-cases. "How can we assist users to gain deep insight into large amounts of data?" I have spent a lot of time building and defining the security visualization space through open. I oversee Forcepoint's X-Labs, a specialized department within Forcepoint that is responsible for behavior-based security research and the development of predictive intelligence. In addition to traditional threat and security intelligence, we are the home of data science, machine learning, and artificial intelligence within Forcepoint. Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

May 1, 2019 • 41min
DtSR Episode 344 - You've Probably Been Pwned
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week, Rafal is joined by the man, the myth, the Aussie legend - Troy Hunt. We basically talk about whatever is on his mind - which, as it turns out is a lot. Take a listen, we may publish an English translation later (joking, Troy!). Highlights from this week's show include... Troy gives a run-down on HaveIBeenPwned We talk through some of the interesting use-cases for HaveIBeenPwned data Troy gives perspective on usernames, passwords, and other important things technology/security related Guest Troy Hunt ( @TroyHunt ) - Troy is a Microsoft Regional Director and Most Valuable Professionalawardee for Developer Security, blogger at troyhunt.com, international speaker on web security and the author of many top-rating security courses for web developers on Pluralsight. I created HIBP as a free resource for anyone to quickly assess if they may have been put at risk due to an online account of theirs having been compromised or "pwned" in a data breach. I wanted to keep it dead simple to use and entirely free so that it could be of maximum benefit to the community. Short of the odd donation, all costs for building, running and keeping the service currently come directly out of my own pocket. Fortunately, today's modern cloud services like Microsoft Azure make it possible to do this without breaking the bank! Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Apr 23, 2019 • 40min
DtSR Episode 343 - The 31st Human Right
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week, on a riveting edition of Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast Raf sits down with Richie Etwaru, a human data ethicist and Founder and CEO of Hu-manity.co. What's a human data ethicist, you ask? Listen to the podcast, and find out. Highlights from this week's show include... Richie walks us through data ownership as a fundamental human right, including why now is the right time in history Raf and Richie discuss the principles of data ownership and how they're different from privacy or security Richie discusses data ownership as a great leveling factor for society SO much more... Guest Richie Etwaru - Richie Etwaru is a human data ethicist and the Founder & CEO at Hu-manity.co where he is responsible for vision, strategy and execution focus for the company. He is driven to reshape the world by creating a new data economy, where inherent human data is legally human property. He has held c-level roles at Fortune 500 companies for two decades, and serves as advisor to venture capitalists, startups, governments, academia, and large organizations on transitioning to Trust Companies. Richie’s book Blockchain Trust Companies, Every Company is at Risk of Being Disrupted by a Trusted Version of Itself (2017) is used by universities, consulting organizations, and governments, and his TEDx talk Blockchain Massively Simplified has been viewed almost 1 million times. Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Apr 16, 2019 • 36min
DtSR Episode 342 - Michael Coates Has Things to Say
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week on episode 342, Michael Coates joins Rafal & James for the 2nd time. Michael's first episode was way, way back in 2015 on episode 134 titled "Fundamental Security". Looks like things haven't changed much. We highly recommend you check out episode 134 first, then listen to this one. Trust us, you want the context. Highlights from this week's show include... Michael gives us an opinion on "what's changed" in the last decade or so Michael discusses "risk", "technical risk", and the Enigo Montoya problem in security Michael gives an overview of what he thinks the profile of the CISO should be Michael gives his take on why he thinks low false-positive rates are important and automation is the future Guest Michael Coates: ( @_mwc ) All you need to know is here, on his LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcoates/ Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Apr 9, 2019 • 32min
DtSR Episode 341 - Discussing Security Reference Architecture
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week, in the final installment of "Live from RSA Conference 2019" Rafal interviews Mark Simos, who is the definitive source for reference architectures at Microsoft. He's the Lead Architect in the Enterprise Security Group and he's doing some amazing things for the community with regards to the Azure cloud and other Microsoft-related security things. Give this episode a listen and share it ...maybe listen again and take good notes! Highlights from this week's show include... Mark discusses security reference architectures (in general) Mark and Raf rap on the shared responsibility model for the cloud...again Mark answers "What's different about security in the cloud?" Mark raises the concept of "raising the cost to the adversary" for defenders... Guest Mark Simos - ( @MarkSimos ) - Mark is Lead Architect in Microsoft’s Enterprise Cybersecurity Group where he is part of a group of cybersecurity experts who create and deliver unique cybersecurity services and solutions to Microsoft’s customers. Mark has contributed to a significant amount of Microsoft cybersecurity guidance - most of which can be found on Mark's List (http://aka.ms/markslist) Mark focuses on cybersecurity guidance to help customers manage cybersecurity threats with Microsoft technology and our partner solutions. Mark's current focus is on security assessments and roadmaps that span the spectrum of security topics including privileged access, high value asset protection, security strategies and operations, datacenter security, and information worker protection. Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Apr 2, 2019 • 38min
DtSR Episode 340 - Diana Kelley from RSA 2019
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week, Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast is publishing episode 3 of 4 which were recorded LIVE at RSA Conference 2019. This episode features Diana Kelley, of Microsoft, talking about the latest security report and other goodies. Highlights from this week's show include... Diana discusses the highlights from the latest Microsoft Security Intelligence Report Raf provides an opinion on how Microsoft could totally own the endpoint space Rafal & Diana dive back into passwords...apparently, we just can't get away from them Diana tells a really interesting story about Microsoft Windows Hello and twins Guest Diana Kelley - @DianaKelley14 - Microsoft Enterprise Cybersecurity Group Leadership team member. Represent Microsoft at global security conferences, author-industry analysis, white papers, and blogs on Microsoft security strategy and response to cyber threats. Contribute to the all up security messaging and provide insight into the strategic vision and direction for the company in close partnership with marketing, business groups, and engineering, as well as working closing with the security PR and AR teams. Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Mar 28, 2019 • 48min
DtSR Episode 339 - Insuring Against Acts of Cyber War
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week, driven by the news cycle, and an interesting story... Rafal & James invite George and Shawn, as actual experts, onto the show. Highlights from this week's show include... This news story - https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/zurich-refuses-to-pay-out-for/ George & Shawn discuss the language of cyber policies We discuss language, inclusions, exclusions, and such George brings up Information vs Cyber, security Other links related to this podcast: https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-areas/cybersecurity/perspective-economic-strength-and-cybersecurity-interplay-in-u-s-china-trade-policy/ https://www.hstoday.us/subject-matter-areas/cybersecurity/perspective-5g-and-the-scrutiny-of-huawei-could-herald-cybersecurity-shift/ https://www.bizcatalyst360.com/tearing-us-apart-at-ludicrous-speed/ https://www.bizcatalyst360.com/economic-leverage-a-smarter-user-two-things-to-improve-cybersecurity/ https://www.itspmagazine.com/from-the-newsroom/command-of-the-cyber-sea Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Mar 19, 2019 • 35min
DtSR Episode 338 - Failure of Risk Management
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week, part 2 of a four-episode set recorded live from RSA Conference 2019. This time, it's Phil Beyer's turn to have a turn at the microphone... Highlights from this week's show include... Phil talks up "The failure of risk management" We discuss the realities of risk management Raf asks "How do we make more informed risk decisions?" Raf and Phil talk through thread models and why they're relevant ...and so much more Guest Phil Beyer - https://www.linkedin.com/in/pjbeyer/ Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Mar 12, 2019 • 40min
DtSR Episode 337 - Insights on Cyber Talent
Send the hosts a message - try it now!This week, in the first of a four-part "Live from RSA Conference 2019" series, Rafal interviews Deidre Diamond. Deidre knows a little something about cybersecurity talent having worked in the field most of her professional career. We discuss all kinds of interesting and relevant topics... Highlights from this week's show include... Deidre presents her new "human model" for hiring, staffing, and retaining excellent talent We discuss the difference between a good leader, and just a good manager and why those aren't the same We discuss the pay gap, why it's still a thing, and what's to be done about it Deidre discusses the challenges women face in cybersecurity, and what's changing Guest: Deidre Diamond: (@DeidreDiamond) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidrediamond/ in her own words: Combining my 21 years of experience working in technology and staffing, my love for the cybersecurity community, and a genuine enthusiasm for people; I created Cyber Security Network (http://www.cybersn.com), a company transforming the way Cyber Security Professionals approach job searches. CyberSN.com will remove the frustration from job-hunting, and aid in interpersonal connections and education. Throughout my career, I have built large-scale sales and operations teams that achieved high performances. Creating cultures based on an anything is possible attitude allows people to achieve above and beyond the usual. By establishing an open communication framework throughout an organization; I have created cultures of positive energy, career advancement, and kindness, that enables teams to reach beyond peak performance and have fun at work. Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast