

Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show.On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_PodcastOn YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqOn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/
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Jan 21, 2020 • 25min
DtSR Episode 379 - IoT Transforming LE
This week, in our final (for real this time) episode recorded LIVE from Enfuse Conference 2019, courtesy of OpenText, we chat with Brian Chidester. It's a fascinating conversation about what the IoT world can (and is) do for law enforcement and government ... think smart cities + Cops. Highlights from this week's episode include... Brian shatters any last shred of privacy I could believe in through the millions of IoT devices out there 'for our protection' Brian reminds us hackers set of Tornado alarms around Dallas ... Brian and Rafal muse about FOIA in the digital age Brian talks about advances like 'connected firearms' Guest Brian Chidester - https://www.linkedin.com/in/abchidester/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Jan 14, 2020 • 36min
DtSR Episode 378 - Trending on CISOs
In our final "Live from Enfuse 2019" episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with Paul Shomo to talk about some of the things he's talked to CISOs about as he travels and advises on behalf of OpenText. It's a pretty interesting conversation... Once again, thanks to OpenText for having the DtSR Podcast in Vegas! Highlights from this week's episode include... Paul and Rafal disagree on whether the cloud transformation is "almost over" or "just begun" Paul brings up the challenge of API security Rafal and Paul tackle security budgets - how much you spend vs how you spend it Rafal asks Paul what's going on with security, and the challenge of identity A link to Paul's article he mentions: https://www.darkreading.com/cloud/5-cybersecurity-ciso-priorities-for-the-future--/a/d-id/1336325 Guest Paul Shomo - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulshomo/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Jan 7, 2020 • 41min
DtSR Episode 377 - The Global War for Soft Power
Welcome to 2020, as Down the Security Rabbithole rolls on! This week we're back with a timely episode on the global war for soft power, with Andrea Limbago, Chief Social Scientist from Virtru. This is an interesting episode, touching on some topics such as privacy and censorship, and very timely. Highlights from this week's episode include... Andrea gives us a run-down on "soft power" and why it's important Raf starts down a rabbithole and gets "dropped" Andrea discusses how privacy regulation is impacting this space Guest Andrea Limbago ( @limbagoa ) - Chief Social Scientist at Virtru - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-little-limbago/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Dec 24, 2019 • 34min
DtSR Episode 376 - Protecting Our Kids Online
Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year listeners of the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast! This week the show focuses on one of the most important things any of us really have - our children. Protecting kids in an increasingly digital world is tough, but not impossible. We decided to bring Theresa Desuyo from Qustodio on the show this week to discuss what her company is doing, and the broader theme of protecting children online. Apologies in advance for Theresa's audio quality. Couldn't fix that in post. Highlights from this week's episode include... Rafal takes a shot at a sinister human being Theresa talks through some of the more ominous things kids can face online James is curious Theresa gives us a look into the crystal ball... Guest Theresa Desuyo of Qustodio - Theresa is Qustodio’s Digital Family expert, leading Qustodio’s insights into how to best generate talking points around technology use adapted to each family’s reality. In addition, she leads growth, partnerships and operations in the US. Before joining Qustodio, Theresa worked in gamification for enterprises and a social enterprise, leveraging technologies to engage employees and for cause marketing initiatives respectively. She holds a B.A. from UCLA and an MBA from ESADE, is fluent in Spanish, Catalán and native English speaker from California. As a mother of 3 school-aged children (13, 11, and 5), decisions around technology use is an everyday topic and different for every child. She believes in educating kids and openly discussing the good and the risks associated to digital devices and the internet for them to build the resilience needed today. Read her professional bio here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresadesuyo/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Dec 18, 2019 • 40min
DtSR Episode 375 - Malcolm in the Middle (of a Career)
This week, DtSR is joined by Malcolm Harkins - former CISO of Intel and industry insider extraordinaire. Malcolm shares insights from his long and distinguished career so pull up a virtual chair, grab your notebook, and pull over because this is one that's a great listen. Highlights from this week's episode include... Rafal asks Malcolm why he doesn't job-hop like most CISOs Malcolm and Raf discuss the "feature economy" Raf asks Malcolm to predict the future Guest Malcolm Harkins ( @ProtectToEnable ) - Chief Security and Trust Officer at Cymatic https://www.linkedin.com/in/malcolmharkins/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Dec 11, 2019 • 46min
DtSR Episode 374 - Mike Daugherty Looks In the Rearview Mirror
This week, on a very special show recorded from his home studio in Atlanta, Rafal welcomes Mike Daugherty back onto the show to tell the story of his crazy journey and battle with the FTC. Highlights from this week's episode include... Mike gives a recap of the road to where he got Rafal and Mike discuss the last few years since episode 171: "When the FTC Attacks" Rafal & Mike discuss the New Yorker article: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/11/04/a-cybersecurity-firms-sharp-rise-and-stunning-collapse Guest Mike Daugherty - ( @daughertymj ) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-j-daugherty-7a500819/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Dec 3, 2019 • 42min
DtSR Episode 373 - Internet of Increasingly Smart Things
Welcome back for another great episode. This week we have a boomerang guest, Amber Schroader, recorded live in Las Vegas at Enfuse 2019. Highlights from this week's episode include... Amber wants a rockstar moment, but no confetti canons Amber dissects Apple, Android, and "other" mobile OSes We discuss machine-to-machine interactions ...so much more to discuss here! Guest: Amber Schroader ( @GingerWonderMom ) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amberschroader/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Nov 26, 2019 • 39min
DtSR Episode 372 - Not the Rise of the Machines
This week on #DtSR (live from Las Vegas, Enfuse 2019 Conference) Rafal chats with Nick Patience of 451 Group. Nick has some expertise in ML and provides context and content that is badly needed to dispel the crazy marketing hype out there. Highlights from this week's episode include... Nick answers the "What is ML/AI, and what is it not?" We think Nick insulted machines by calling their learning potentially "shallow" (haha) Nick gives us the retail applications of machine learning - grocery stores and similar things Nick talks about "automating the mundane vs automating the complex" as problem spaces where ML is applicable Nick explains ML is just software - but it's different from other software Guest Nick Patience ( @NickPatience ) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickpatience/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Nov 19, 2019 • 39min
DtSR Episode 371 - Advancing SOC-as-a-Service
First, and foremost, thank you to OpenText for having the #DtSR Podcast live and in-person in Las Vegas. Enfuse is a fantastic conference bringing together security operations professionals (forensics, threat hunters, SOC analysts), privacy, and legal professionals under one banner. It's a fantastic opportunity to hear some very involved talks, hear about the state-of-the-art, and join the conversation. Also ... the people you will meet there are amazing - guests and staff. Highlights from this week's episode include... Kevin gives us an educated, experience-based opinion on threat intelligence, threat hunting, and other various key terms Rafal make some snarky comments about "your mess for less" MSSPs Rafal and Kevin attempt to discuss the analyst shortage - do we solve it with tech or people? Guest Kevin Golas, Director of Worldwide Security Services at OpenText - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-golas-cism-cisa-cissp-1126b01/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Nov 13, 2019 • 12min
DtSR - This Just In - OpenText and Reveille Announcement Nov 2019
Dropping in for a quick announcement - you heard it here first! This week a few different announcements went out from OpenText, but this one caught my attention because it could honestly and truly be a game-changer for security and legal teams when it comes to breaches. Going beyond the typical EDR solution, this announcement may be able to shine light into the questions security and legal professionals need answered in the case of a breach. Check it out. Official Name: OpenText™ Content Security for EnCase™ by Reveille. Press release: https://www.opentext.com/about/press-releases?id=6A68BD4D22384A45A910DEFBD22BECBD Guests: Paul Shomo, Senior Security Architect, OpenText Brian Dewyer, CTO, Reveille Software Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast