

Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
Rafal (Wh1t3Rabbit) Los
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show.On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_PodcastOn YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqOn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/
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Jun 28, 2022 • 41min
DtSR Episode 506 - What the Heck is ASPM
Prologue As some of you know, I've been either in the AppSec space, or adjacent, since the fairly early days. I built a program at GE a million years ago, and worked selling dynamic web app testing software for many years. If you've been in the space, you can feel a little bit hopeless with all the different options, tools, and advice only to look at the stale OWASP Top 10 and wonder ...why aren't things improving? Matt Rose joins me in a post-RSA conversation about ASPM (Application Security Posture Management), and before you dismiss it as another analyst buzzword, let's talk about why this may actually (and finally) start to solve some of the complex issues around developing, releasing, and maintaining reasonably secure software. This is a space I've been passionate about for a long time, and I feel like everyone should listen to this. Guest Matt Rose LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattarose/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Jun 21, 2022 • 1h 1min
DtSR Episode 505 - Reflections on RSA Conference 2022
Prologue RSA Conference 2022 has come and gone. Rafal was there for all the circus and madness, and sits down with James to discuss what was seen and heard. Also, you'll get some clips in here from some of the interviews from the show as Rafal caught up with some interesting vendors, old friends, and even some poetry. Guests Tyler Moffitt LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyler-moffitt-29752050/ Rock Lambros LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rocklambros/ Matt Rose LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattarose/ Dr. Khawaja Saeed LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/khawaja-asjad-saeed-29b2a6a/ Ray Canzanese LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raymond-canzanese-jr-178a846/ Deidre Diamond LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deidrediamond/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Jun 7, 2022 • 37min
DtSR Episode 504 - DNS Turns 40
Prologue In this RSA conference-themed episode, I bring on Jonathan Barnett from OpenText Security Solutions to discuss DNS turning 40 years old. Yeah, it was originally invented in 1983 y'all. As DNS turns 40, some of the lingering problems are getting worse, some of the new solutions open up other problems, and we're all about solutions here so we tackle some of the things Jonathan is doing to address the issues. Interesting episode to ponder, and reflect on, as DNS turns 40 years old next year and we try and figure out "now what?" Guest Jonathan Barnett LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-barnett-61417313/ OpenText Security Solutions: https://security.opentext.com/?_ga=2.120496974.732014807.1654199211-1391672637.1654199211 Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Jun 2, 2022 • 1h 6min
DtSR Episode 500 - Looking Back to Look Forward in Tech - Part 3
Prologue This is a bonus episode for the Episode 500 live-stream we did. I brought together Crowdstrike, OpenText, and Netskope technologists to talk about the technology they've worked with over the last 10 years, where it stands today, and what the future outlook looks like. It's a fascinating conversation from some of the most common vendors out there in security - and you're probably using or relying on their platforms -- so it makes sense to get their take on the past, present, and future of technology in our industry. Special thanks to Adam, Grayson, and Mark for taking the time out and sharing their expertise! Guests Adam Meyers (Crowdstrike) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-meyers-7a58481/ Grayson Milbourne (OpenText) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/themilbourne/ Mark Day (Netskope) - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markstuartday/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

May 31, 2022 • 39min
DtSR Episode 503 - Blowing Up Your Cloud (Permissions Structure)
Prologue This week, we talk about the cloud in a different way than we have previously. We discuss "blast radius" with regard to vast numbers of roles and permissions inside of a public cloud infrastructure. The numbers are staggering and you'll likely find yourself asking the obvious question -- "How does anyone manage all of this, with any hope of getting it right?" The beginnings of that answer lie in this show. Guest: Arick Goomanovsky LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arick-goomanovsky/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/g00manoid/ Ermetic: https://ermetic.com/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

May 24, 2022 • 53min
DtSR Episode 502 - Why Can't Gov Figure Out Supplier Security
Prologue CMMC may be something you know nothing of, but if you're a government contractor, or work with government contractors of the DIB - you're probaby alll too familiar. For some, it's hell. For the rest, it's mostly insane. Jacob joins Rafal & James to educate us, and give us the reality of this set of standards. Guest Jacob Horne LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-horne-cissp/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

May 17, 2022 • 41min
DtSR Episode 501 - Netskope's Bad SaaS Report
Prologue This week, on the first post-500 episode, we welcome Netskope's Ray Canzanese to talk about the Cloud & Threat Report they just published ( https://www.netskope.com/netskope-threat-labs/cloud-threat-report ) which has some interesting bits in it. Ray discusses the details and some of the things that you won't find in the text of the report. Good conversation as Rafal & James break down the headlines.Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

May 12, 2022 • 1h 3min
DtSR Episode 500 - Looking Back to Look Forward - Part 2
Prologue - Part 2 of 2 First - thank you to everyone who listens to this show, shares it, and has left us a review. You all are the reason these past 500 episodes got published, and why this show will keep going into the forseeable future! Link to video: https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6917850703235321856/ This episode features some of my favorite guests from the last 500 episodes, with something to say. We cover a lot of ground, totally unscripted, and we have opinions. Guests Jim Tiller LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jitiller/ Will Gragido LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gragido/ Diana Kelley LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianakelleysecuritycurve/ Rob Hansen LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberthansen3/ Anton Chuvakin LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuvakin/ Jeff Moss LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffmoss/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

May 10, 2022 • 59min
DtSR Episode 500 - Looking Back to Look Forward - Part 1
Prologue - Part 1 of 2 First - thank you to everyone who listens to this show, shares it, and has left us a review. You all are the reason these past 500 episodes got published, and why this show will keep going into the forseeable future! Link to video: https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6917850703235321856/ This episode features some of my favorite guests from the last 500 episodes, with something to say. We cover a lot of ground, totally unscripted, and we have opinions. Guests Jim Tiller LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jitiller/ Will Gragido LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gragido/ Diana Kelley LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dianakelleysecuritycurve/ Rob Hansen LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roberthansen3/ Anton Chuvakin LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuvakin/ Jeff Moss LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffmoss/ Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

May 3, 2022 • 53min
DtSR Episode 499 - Four Hundred Ninety Nine and Counting
Prologue Friends and colleagues - I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. It almost brings me to tears that over the last 11 years you've been sharing, downloading, and talking about this little thing I started back in 2011. Incredible doesn't even begin to describe the ride so far. And to top it off, we've hit almost 32,000 downloads this month - the most we've ever gotten by almost 2,000 more. I'm flabbergasted. So this episode, it's just James and I - just us doing what we do. Thank you. We love you. Keep listening!Have something to say? Let's hear it.Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast