
Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show.On Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/@DtSR_PodcastOn YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqOn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/
Latest episodes

Oct 19, 2022 • 47min
DtSR Episode 522 - Insuring Corporate Survival
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue It's been a while since we have done an episode on cyber insurance, in fact, the last episode was https://ftwr.libsyn.com/dtsr-episode-454-tpa-cyber-insurance-fact-vs-fiction back in July of 2021. So we revisit with the two experts plus a bonus guest for you. We look at the issues from the perspective of the broker, buyer, and lawyer -- a complete picture if I do say so myself! Story link in FastCompany: https://www.fastcompany.com/90781786/cyber-insurance-price-hikes-have-left-local-governments-reeling LinkedIn Live video stream (on-demand): https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6980210814192402434/ Guests Shawn Tuma LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnetuma/ Sean Scranton LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-scranton-2b24948/ Sebastian Avarvarei LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastianavarvarei/ Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Oct 11, 2022 • 1h 8min
DtSR Episode 521 - The Peanut Gallery Takes on XDR
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue Our industry has been talking about XDR for a while now. Some people think it's the savior, some people think it's marketing garbage - and neither of them really understands what this "thing" named XDR is. Well, I figure we'll get some smart people on the podcast, people who live in this field and use this word a lot, and giddy up. This episode is slightly PG-13'ish ... because Anton has a potty mouth and I don't want to edit. Guests: Anton Chuvakin (Google) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuvakin/ Jamie Moles (ExtraHop) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamiemoles/ Bryan Lee (CrowdStrike) LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/obiwanblee/ Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Oct 4, 2022 • 41min
DtSR Episode 520 - The War With Online Scammers
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue We start Cyber Security Awareness Month - the 30-day window where corporate law requires you to check the box and take boring security 'awareness' training, then forget it November 1st. Not my favorite month... so what about scammers, criminals, and bad people who prey upon those who aren't covered by corporate mandated training? Join us, let's talk about it. Guest Michael Magrath LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelmagrath/ Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Sep 28, 2022 • 1h 2min
DtSR Episode 519 - Insights From an Industry Leader
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue This week, Rafal takes the show on the road (literally) to Las Vegas for Fal.Con '22 -- this is CrowdStrike's premier global get-together of customers, partners, and industry experts to showcase some innovation and share ideas and insights. I wanted to say a big thank you to CrowdStrike -- all the folks who helped make this happen and continue to support this podcast and provide access to these fantastic guests. Thank you to Nick Lowe, Geeta Schmidt, Kapil Raina, and Bryan Lee for taking the time to share their unique insights. Guests Nick Lowe LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-lowe-cissp-7751a05b/ Geeta Schmidt LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geetaschmidt/ Kapil Raina LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kapilraina/ Bryan Lee LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/obiwanblee/ Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Sep 20, 2022 • 45min
DtSR Episode 518 - Go Big or Go Home
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue Solving problems is a challenge not everyone is up for. The industry is littered with people and companies that bring small-time solutions to an industry begging and pleading for actual solutions. Jason Clark of Netskope, and long-time friend, joins James and Rafal to talk about the mindset and approach needed to solve BIG problems that change the game, change the landscape, and change our lives. Guest Jason Clark LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonclarkfl/ Digital Disruption with Geoff Nielson Discover how technology is reshaping our lives and livelihoods.Listen on: Apple Podcasts SpotifySupport the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Sep 13, 2022 • 1h 2min
DtSR Episode 517 - Two Truths and a Lie
Send the hosts a message - try it now!For those of you paying attention - DtSR is officially 11 years old. This episode is the first episode of year (season) 12. WOW. Thank you for listening, sharing, commenting, and watching us live! Prologue We work in a weird industry where marketing has to make ever-more outrageous claims that product and service teams then have to attempt to live up to, but it's a way of life. Now, I'm not strictly speaking blaming product marketing people, but they do have some blame in this insane climate we find ourselves in. On this episode, two good friends - and professional snark'ists - join James and I to talk about where our industry has over-marketed, over-hyped, and simply failed to deliver ...and where it may actually be meeting expectations. It's a fun conversation, and I bet you won't see the ending coming. Guests Jeff Collins LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmcollins/ Anton Chuvakin LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuvakin/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/anton_chuvakin Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Sep 6, 2022 • 48min
DtSR Episode 516 - Breaking Bad on EAS
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue Fresh off his presentation at Defcon 2022, Ken Pyle joins Rafal to talk about the Emergency Alert System (EAS) he's been hacking since 2019 and discusses findings, challenges, and the work left to do. It's a fascinating conversation that will leave you wondering - how do we fix this clear and present problem, and more importantly...where else should we be looking? Guest Ken Pyle LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ken-pyle/ LinkedIn Stream (recorded): https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6971199601311694848/ Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Aug 30, 2022 • 46min
DtSR Episode 515 - Gadi Evron Talks PostBreach and Disinformation
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue This week's guest is always a great interview. Gadi Evron has been around the industry longer than it's been an officially named discipline. In this episode, he talks about post-breach standards and the apparent but not previously discussed need. He also breaks your brain with disinformation, which we only lightly touch on before realizing we need at least one more podcast to go deeper into the topic. Join us, and share this one, it's awesome. Guest Gadi Evron LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gadievron/ Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Aug 23, 2022 • 41min
DtSR Episode 514 - Adam Explains Everything
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue We've covered "threat intelligence" on the show a few times now, but the evolving nature of what threat data is, how it's useful, and how it enables defenders of a specific type identify malicious activity keep it interesting. This time around Adam Meyers of CrowdStrike joins Rafal to discuss threat intelligence, threat hunting, and clarifies some of the mis-conceptions and utilities around the topic. A good conversation for those defending their infrastructure and useful data points from someone who is a recognized expert. Adam joins us from his bunker, with all the elements you'd expect from Adam, so it's definitely worth your time to listen closely. Check out Fal.Con, where you can catch the cutting-edge on CrowdStrike kit, industry knowledge, and hear some great industry speakers. Rafal will be there speaking on the topic of operationalizing and making the SOC more effective and efficient at small scale, check it out (link below). Guest Adam Meyers LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-meyers-7a58481/ CrowdStrike: https://www.crowdstrike.com Fal.Con: https://www.crowdstrike.com/events/fal-con/ Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast

Aug 16, 2022 • 47min
DtSR Episode 513 - CSO Perspective on Security Fundamentals
Send the hosts a message - try it now!Prologue "Just do the basics!" "Remember the security fundamentals." ...sick of hearing those catch phrases without anything to actually get it DONE? Yeah, us too. This week we're joined by John Scimone of Dell Technologies to talk about his take on fundamentals both security and IT. His approach is not unique, per se, but it's one that works and it's repeatable. More importantly, he's willing to share his expertise and what he's done to be successful in raising the bar to his level of "good enough" -- so unless you've gotten where YOU want to be in those security fundamentals, it's time to listen to John's podcast and take notes. Take lots of notes. By the way, if you want the video on LinkedIn Live where you can post questions too, click here: https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6953043382164209664/ Guest John Scimone - President, Chief Security Officer at Dell Technologies LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-scimone-0b2041a1/ Support the show>>> Please consider clicking the link above to support the show!-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=YouTube home: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLyo0dkKRvfVtWXjRxNISrhme1MgBj3C2U&si=scHDiTuLXSEQ9qHqLinkedIn Page: https://www.linkedin.com/company/down-the-security-rabbithole-podcast/X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/dtsr_podcast