

Status Check with Spivey
Spivey Consulting Group
Hosted by Mike Spivey, founder and CEO of the Spivey Consulting Group, and Anna Hicks-Jaco, President of Spivey Consulting's law school admissions division. Status Check covers life and well-being plus all things law school and admissions. Our admissions advice comes from our Spivey Consulting team—who collectively have over 250 years of experience working in law school admissions offices, including at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Columbia, Chicago, and Penn—and covers how to get into the best possible law school you can, plus news and predictions about the current state of law school admissions.
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Mar 17, 2021 • 32min
Interview with a Biglaw Partner: Jeff Chapman, Gibson Dunn Co-Chair of Global M&A
In this podcast, Mike interviews Jeff Chapman: Partner, Co-Chair of Global Mergers and Acquisitions, and Executive Committee Member at Gibson Dunn. You can read Jeff's bio here: https://www.gibsondunn.com/lawyer/chapman-jeffrey-a/
Mike and Jeff met when Mike was a law school Dean of Career Services, and they became good friends — in this interview, Jeff shares his story, some thoughts and advice about law school, and a bit of biglaw hiring advice.
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/gst2Qt3bKDc or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223

Mar 2, 2021 • 52min
Current Cycle Update, Waitlist Considerations, and Next Cycle Predictions with Dave Killoran
In this podcast, Spivey Consulting Group's Mike Spivey and PowerScore founder Dave Killoran discuss the state of the current 2020-2021 law school admissions cycle, things to consider for applicants who may be on waitlists, and predictions about next cycle (2021-2022).
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/hGDsIfKmjDQ or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223

Feb 16, 2021 • 39min
Dr. Guy Winch on Handling Rejection (& Waiting) in the Admissions and Job Search Process
Dr. Guy Winch is one of the world's leading psychologists and speakers. He has delivered three TED Talks with over 25 million views combined, all three of which can be seen here https://www.guywinch.com/
He has published three books and along with best-selling author Lori Gottlieb co-hosts a relatively new but already incredibly popular podcast Dear Therapists https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-dear-therapists-68853191/
In this 40-minute podcast, we speak about rejection at the macro level — "Do we aggregate rejection, and why does it sting so bad?" — and then in the admissions and first job search process specifically. Dr. Winch speaks toward research and numerous helpful interventions in both the perceived feelings of rejection and the problem issues involved in waiting on decisions.
Perhaps most notably, Dr. Winch tells a story about the first time he applied to graduate school, when he applied to 10 different programs, was denied by 9, and was "ghosted" (he literally never heard from them) by the 10th. Which makes his conversation with us not just incredibly helpful, but also relatable. We've all been rejected at something, many things — including those at the very pinnacle of their professional careers.
In this podcast, we mention an episode of Dr. Peter Attia's The Drive in which Dr. Winch is interviewed — you can listen to that episode here https://peterattiamd.com/guywinch/
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/E68R_99PQ0k or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223

Feb 8, 2021 • 6min
Anything Is Possible
For today's podcast, a little something different — some advice on resiliency in the face of watching others succeed in the ways you'd like to be succeeding.
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/ME6OnVTebFE or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223

Feb 4, 2021 • 27min
Why Some Law School Applicants Underperform Their Numbers
In this podcast, Mike Spivey discusses factors that lead to some applicants "underperforming" their numbers.
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/uC_pC-T2OsI or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223
Introduction
- 0:46 - Will more people underperform this cycle? (2020-2021)
- 1:41 - Defining "Underperform"
Factors that can lead to underperforming your numbers
- 4:44 - Character & Fitness Issues (but maybe not in the way you think)
- 6:44 - Yield Protection
- 8:17 - Overcommunicating
- 10:40 - Sloppiness
Answering Questions from Reddit
- 13:05 - "Is it the essay or lack of an added essay (DS) that throws off an entire application?"
- 14:44 - "Is having a non legal job in Biglaw going in a boost as schools will see you connections that may help boost the schools standing?"15:26 - "How disadvantaged are KJDs in the admissions process?"
- 16:59 - "Do GRE applicants more often underperform their numbers? With the high LSAT saturation, will this negatively affect GRE applicants?"
- 17:54 - "Considering how some services quantify the 'URM Boost' in applications (7Sage predictor and LSData URM LSAT/GPA differential, for example), what specifically causes URMs to underperform their stats?"
- 19:41 - "I’ve been rejected by UMich with a 3.mid and 17high, does this count as underperforming my numbers? If so, is this indicative of how the rest of my cycle with the T14 will go?"
- 20:02 - "Any data / longitudinal studies on engineers?"
- 20:42 - "I’m sure this will vary by schools, but in your experience as someone who made decisions on files, if a candidate is at/above both of a school’s target medians AND has demonstrated genuine interest, how much can those two factors carry them if the rest of the app is average? Will the answer to this question be different this year because of the availability of good stats?"
- 21:28 - "Would you say if there are multiple LSAT scores without a consistent increase in score (i.e. there was a score drop before the ultimate high score) then that person is likely to underperform? Especially asking for T6/T14? Would your answer change if the final score was a 175+?"
Conclusion
- 23:48 - Takeaways & Predictions for the Rest of the Cycle

Jan 26, 2021 • 16min
LOCIs & Law School Fit When You Can't Visit + International Applicant Considerations This Cycle
In this podcast, Mike Spivey answers more questions from Reddit. First up, he discusses differences international JD applicants might see in their admissions processes with the special considerations of this application cycle. Then, he talks about how to figure out whether a law school is the right fit for you when you can't visit in person — and, for those who haven't been admitted yet, how to write a strong letter of continued interest (LOCI) without visiting.
- International JD admissions considerations this cycle: 0:52
- Getting to know a school's culture when you can't visit: 4:32
- How to write a LOCI when you can't visit: 7:32
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/HaPjcbGSy30 or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223

Jan 19, 2021 • 11min
Why haven't I gotten a decision yet? Is January too late to apply? + the worst PS we've ever seen
In this podcast, Mike answers a few questions from Reddit.
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/vdKBIT3QNX4 or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223

Jan 16, 2021 • 1h 14min
Interviews with Law School Applicants About the Admissions Process
In this podcast, Mike Spivey interviews groups of current law school applicants about their experiences with the admissions process — what has surprised them, how they've handled the stress, what they expect for the future, and what advice they would give to someone at the beginning of the process. The participants are all volunteers from r/LawSchoolAdmissions, and only one happened to be a client of Spivey Consulting.
Here's a link to the blog post Mike mentioned in the podcast, The Malevolent Puppeteer: https://www.spiveyblog.com/posts/puppeteer
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/svwMnYVaw58 or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223

Jan 5, 2021 • 14min
Commonly Misunderstood—But Important—Parts of the Law School Application Process
In this podcast, Mike Spivey discusses some of the most commonly held misconceptions about the law school admissions process, and how understanding them can help you get admitted.
- 0:30 – admissions is inherently comparative
- 4:21 – admissions officers want to get to know you
- 7:12 – how do law schools make money?
- 11:03 – being a savvy applicant (regarding advice from law school admissions offices)
You can also listen to this podcast on YouTube https://youtu.be/HQxl4ZxQCzY or Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spivey-consulting-law-school-admissions-podcast/id1477090223

Dec 29, 2020 • 5min
Winter Break Podcast: A Favorite Personal Statement
In this podcast, Spivey Consulting's Anna Hicks reads one of her favorite personal statements of all time. Please note that this essay includes mention of illicit drugs, abuse, and violence.
The full text of the personal statement is included in the description of the video on YouTube https://youtu.be/-IRdTexQHR8 — please note that all names have been changed for anonymity, and this essay is shared with permission from the applicant.
Thanks for listening, and happy holidays.