
Crackers and Grape Juice
Crackers and Grape Juice began in the spring of 2016 with a conversation between Jason Micheli and Teer Hardy. In the years since, two shows have been added to the lineup, Strangely Warmed and (Her)Men*You*Tics, but the goal has remained the same: talking about faith without using stained-glass language.
Latest episodes

Aug 16, 2016 • 53min
Episode 29 - What is the Gospel?

Aug 9, 2016 • 1h 2min
Episode 28 - Jeffrey Pugh: Leaving Left Behind Behind
Teer and Jason talk with Jeff Pugh about his new book: The Home-brewed Christianity Guide to the End Times.

Aug 4, 2016 • 52min
Episode 27 - Will Willimon: Stopping the Obsession with Clergy Coitus

Aug 2, 2016 • 43min
Episode 26 - Breakfast With the Ordinands

Jul 28, 2016 • 31min
Episode 25 - Wild Goose (the second) Week: Emily Joy’s poetic heart
Morgan’s fifth Wild Goose interview was with Emily Joy, an incredible poet who lives in Nashville. Emily grew up homeschooled in a fundamentalist family. She went to Moody Bible Institute where she was one of a handful of women to major in theology (in this decade). They discussed online feminism, intersectionality, and the importance of listening to your heart. Then Emily closed with her viral poem “How To Love the Sinner and Hate the Sin: Five Easy Steps.”

Jul 26, 2016 • 38min
Episode 24 - Wild Geese (the second) Week: Bec Cranford speaks in tongues
Morgan’s fourth Wild Goose interview was with Bec Cranford, the volunteer director at the Gateway Center for homeless people in Atlanta. Bec is a heavily tattooed progressive Pentecostal wonder-woman. On the interview, she shared powerful stories of a tough life journey that has left her full of empathy. Everything was going well until she started speaking in tongues.

Jul 22, 2016 • 44min
Episode 23 - Wild Geese Week: Brandan Robertson wanders and wonders
Morgan’s third Wild Goose interview was with Brandan Robertson, the author of 'Nomad: A Spirituality for Traveling Light.' His original book contract was rescinded when he came out as queer, so he had to republish with a UK publisher. Brandan was a fundamentalist street preacher in the Baltimore Inner Harbor at the age of 13. He went to Moody Bible Institute where he was almost expelled for doing a radio interview with Brian McLaren. It was refreshing to hear how little bitterness Brandan has for his past and how he seeks to integrate all the phases of his spiritual journey as he wanders and wonders into the future.

Jul 20, 2016 • 45min
Episode 22 - Wild Geese Week: Sarah Heath’s contagious love
Morgan’s second Wild Goose interview was with Sarah Heath, the pastor of First United Methodist Church of Costa Mesa, California. Sarah’s pure, Christlike heart is contagious. She talked a lot about the beautiful, eclectic mix of people in her church and how sad she would be if the United Methodists decided to split.

Jul 18, 2016 • 29min
Episode 21 - Wild Goose Week: Alicia Crosby expands the church
Morgan’s first Wild Goose interview was with Alicia Crosby, the co-founder and co-director of the Center for Inclusivity in Chicago. In our interview, she talked a lot about expanding the concept of church. She makes the point that while Jesus spent some time in the temple, most of where he did church was in people’s houses and on the streets. Alicia and Morgan also discussed what holiness looks like for an inclusive Christian and how the church should be responding to police violence against black people.

Jul 15, 2016 • 44min