Caropop

Devo’s Gerald Casale helped conceive the concept of “de-evolution,” but even he didn’t think things would get so bad. He’s also not happy about that Rock and Roll Hall of Fame snub, and he has frustrations with band co-leader Mark Mothersbaugh. Devo’s striking visuals and presentation, often conceived by Casale, may lead some to overlook this groundbreaking band’s power. We dig into the music here, how Casale and Mothersbaugh wrote those songs and who did what. He also discusses Devo’s Saturday Night Live debut (and how Neil Young factored in). Did the band wear yellow jumpsuits and red Energy Domes into the studio? You’ll find out.

Filmmaker Judd Apatow listens to other people as much as he projects his own voice. His new documentary, George Carlin’s American Dream (HBO, HBO Max), is a complex, intimate portrait of one of the most impactful comedians ever. His new book, Sicker in the Head: More Conversations about Life and Comedy, finds him sharing tales of pandemic life, depression and expression with creative people including David Letterman, Hanna Gadsby and Lin-Manuel Miranda. In his latest comedy, The Bubble, Apatow attempts to reflect the madness of the pandemic in real time. What drives all this activity? How does his constant outreach affect his creativity? How does he feel about his daughters joining the family business? Is he working on This is 50? This conversation about life and comedy covers a lot of ground.

Delvon Lamarr can play almost every instrument but one, but he’s happiest behind his Hammond organ powering soul-jazz instrumentals that suggest what might happen if Booker T. and the MG’s met the Meters on a rocket into the 21st Century. The Delvon Lamarr Organ Trio makes hot, groovy music with seemingly telepathic interplay. Why does Lamarr prefer the trio format, even if it requires him to play bass on the organ? What’s the secret to naming instrumentals (and the story behind “Pull Your Pants Up”)? How much of his writing springs from improvisation? How important is melody? Shouldn’t more bands be making “feel good music”? Lamarr is a great talker and player. Enjoy.

Chef Sarah Stegner is not only one of the most talented chefs in the Chicago area but also among the most impactful. A two-time James Beard Award-winner, she scaled fine dining’s heights at the Dining Room at the Ritz-Carlton in Chicago, then decided she’d rather share with more people her vision of how ingredients and guests should be treated, so she opened Prairie Grass Café. She also co-founded the trailblazing Green City Market and advocates for women in restaurants through The Abundance Setting. She has no use for yelling in the kitchen and offers thoughtful ideas on how to push the industry forward. When she talks, other chefs listen, and when she cooks, bring your appetite.

Jeff Murphy makes brilliant power pop with his brother John and their friend Gary Klebe in the band Shoes. They began by recording at home in Zion, Ill., released indelible songs (“Tomorrow Night,” "Your Imagination") and albums (Present Tense, Tongue Twister) for Elektra and went into heavy rotation on MTV when the channel debuted in 1981. Then they discovered they were better off recording and releasing their own music. How can a band thrive with three equal singer-songwriters? Why are record labels so dumb? How much musical knowledge is needed to create such catchy tunes? What went right and wrong with Material Issue, whom Jeff produced? Tap your toes and listen.

Chris Stamey played with Mitch Easter and Alex Chilton before forming the dB’s and producing Pylon and other bands, but he has created a formidable body of his own work. His songwriting and arranging have grown in sophistication and skill, and he has written an illuminating memoir, A Spy in the House of Loud: New York Songs and Stories, that immerses us in his artistic development amid that city’s transformative rock scene. Here he talks about Chilton, the dB’s, music theory, the smell of analog tape, and those lightning-bolt moments when a new song becomes a precious secret in your head. This conversation is like a master class about songwriting and creativity.

Justin Roberts is a first-rate songwriter who happens to make music for kids. His songs are intuitive, funny and catchy, and four of his albums are Grammy nominated, including 2020’s Wild Life, the first he wrote after becoming a parent himself. Talking in his sunny living room, he digs into the craft of songwriting and the business of releasing his own music. How does he distinguish between songs he writes for kids and adults? How can he thrive when his audience keeps growing older? How has parenthood changed his work? As an added treat, he performs two new songs. You don’t have to be a parent or kid to enjoy this Caropop conversation.

Nashville-based mastering engineer Ryan Smith works on high-profile vinyl releases such as recent albums by Adele and Taylor Swift, but he’s become renowned for the fantastic-sounding reissues he has mastered. As a member of the Vinyl Me, Please record club, I have become happily familiar with the phrase “AAA Lacquers Cut From The Original Analog Tapes by Ryan Smith at Sterling Sound.” In this illuminating conversation, Smith discusses his approach to an optimal recording, the level of detail possible in original pressings vs. new versions, the merits of black vs. colored vinyl, and the relative importance of where lacquers are cut vs. where albums are pressed. Listen…

Drummer Terry Chambers was the motor that powered XTC through its first five albums before frontman Andy Partridge broke down and abruptly ended the band’s touring days. Chambers left soon afterward, moved to Australia and was away from music for three decades—in part trying to pay off the massive debt from that cancelled tour. Yet recently he moved back to Swindon, England, and teamed with XTC songwriter/bassist Colin Moulding on a new band, TC&I. When Moulding pulled the plug on that project, Chambers decided to tour XTC songs anyway—in EXTC. With candor and good humor, he discusses his playing and reveals what it was like to be in and then out of XTC—and who's the biggest obstacle to a possible reunion.

Whether you consider him country, bluegrass, folk or rock, Robbie Fulks is one of our greatest songwriters and an awfully talented guitarist and singer as well. He can be satirical and biting but also can pierce your heart, as the penetrating character studies on his albums Gone Away Backward and the Grammy-nominated Upland Stories have done. Having long lived in Chicago, Robbie moved to Los Angeles a few years ago. Why would he do that? He also talks about his writing process—does he write when he doesn’t have to?—his 30 Rock guest spot, his love of collaboration and his poolside meeting with another accomplished singer-songwriter because apparently that’s what one does in L.A.