

Meet the Microbiologist
Ashley Hagen, M.S.
Who is microbiology? Meet the Microbiologist (MTM) introduces you to the people who discover, innovate and advance the field of microbiology.
Go behind-the-scenes of the microbial sciences with experts in virology, bacteriology, mycology, parasitology and more! Share in their passion for microbes and hear about research successes and even a few setbacks in their field.
MTM covers everything from genomics, antibiotic resistance, synthetic biology, emerging infectious diseases, microbial ecology, public health, social equity, host-microbe biology, drug discovery, artificial intelligence, the microbiome and more!
From graduate students to working clinicians and emeritus professors, host, Ashley Hagen, Scientific and Digital Editor at the American Society for Microbiology, highlights professionals in all stages of their careers, gleaning wisdom, career advice and even a bit of mentorship along the way.
Go behind-the-scenes of the microbial sciences with experts in virology, bacteriology, mycology, parasitology and more! Share in their passion for microbes and hear about research successes and even a few setbacks in their field.
MTM covers everything from genomics, antibiotic resistance, synthetic biology, emerging infectious diseases, microbial ecology, public health, social equity, host-microbe biology, drug discovery, artificial intelligence, the microbiome and more!
From graduate students to working clinicians and emeritus professors, host, Ashley Hagen, Scientific and Digital Editor at the American Society for Microbiology, highlights professionals in all stages of their careers, gleaning wisdom, career advice and even a bit of mentorship along the way.
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Jul 14, 2023 • 38min
Microbial Flavor Profiles for Bread and Wine Production With Kate Howell
Dr. Kate Howell, Associate Professor of Food Chemistry at the University of Melbourne, Australia discusses how microbes impact the flavor and aroma of food and beverages and shares how microbial interactions can be used to enhance nutritional properties of food and beverage sources. Ashley's Biggest Takeaways Saccharomyces means sugar-loving fungus. Humans have similar olfactory structures and mechanisms as insects and are similarly attracted to fermenting or rotting fruits produced by Saccharomyces. Research has shown that insects (and humans) prefer yeasts that produce more esters and aromatic compounds. Palm wine is a product that is made from sap collected from palm trees (palm sap) across the tropical band of the world. Fruity flavors appear to be less important to persistence of Saccharomyces strains in an Indonesian palm wine fermentation. This may be because palm wine fermentation is very quick, generally 1-3 days often, with a maximum of 5 days for fermentation to be conducted. Wineries, on the other hand, ferment annually (one fermentation per year/vintage), when the grapes are right. Grape wine fermentations can take 7 days to 2 weeks to complete. So different selections likely take place between the 2 fermentation products. Featured Quotes: When we start drawing our lens on how microbes produce food for humans, we're coopting a process that happens quite naturally. Here I'll start off talking about Saccharomyces cerevisiae, the main fermenting yeast in food and beverage production, because it's one of the most studied organisms and was the first eukaryote to be sequenced. Saccharomyces cerevisiae, as the name implies, loves sugar, and it flourishes when there's a lot of sugar in the environment. Where is sugar found? In fruits, and that's done quite deliberately, because fruits develop sugars and flavors and aromas to attract a birds or insects or anything else that can carry their seeds elsewhere for dispersal. Now, Saccharomyces lies dormant in the environment in a spore before it encounters a sugar-loving environment. And then it replicates very quickly and tends to dominate fermentation. Humans have coopted that into our kitchens, into our meals, into our lives, and we use that process to produce food. As Saccharomyces starts to use this sugar, it balances up its metabolism. And as it does this, it produces aromas. These aromas have a lot of important characteristics. Humans love them, but insects also love them too. I've been interested in the yeasts that are found naturally in sourdough starters. Sourdough is a really interesting system. Because you've got yeast and bacteria interacting with one another. One of the things we are collaborating on with colleagues in France at Inrae, Dr. Delphine Sicard, is to understand some of the non-Saccharomyces yeasts that are naturally occurring in sourdough starters. So here we're looking at a collection of a yeast called Kazachstania humilis and trying to understand how it has adapted to the sourdough environment, how its sustained over time and how different global populations differ to one another. And this, of course, is of interest to the baking industry because not only do artisanal bakers have sort of an undiscovered wealth of biodiversity in their starters, baking companies also have an interest in using different sorts of flavors and bread for the commercial markets. The connection between a chemical profile and a person’s sensory preference isn't something that's complete and direct. So, in every method that we use, there's always caveats, but we try to correlate it. Let's start off with the chemical characterization. We use headspace sampling, analytical chemistry, separation with gas chromatography and identification with mass spectrometry. And we use different 2-dimensional methods to be able to understand what the very small compounds are, and to be able to identify them. We can semi-quantify these to be able to make comparisons between different fermentations. We know from wine fermentations and understanding preferences of wine that, in some cases, a particular increase, or an abundance of a particular compound, can be extremely attractive. And that might depend on the style of wine. What we've discovered through this process is that different people prefer different flavors. Makes sense, doesn't it? We like different things. But some really interesting results from our lab, show that people from different cultural backgrounds have different preferences. And here we're using here in Melbourne, I'm very lucky to work with some very talented postdocs and Ph.D. students from China, who have very different preferences for wine than an Australian does. Of course, Australians are quite heterogeneous in their in their cultural diversity as well. But there's certain flavors that our Chinese colleagues tend to prefer. So we decided to investigate this a little bit more. So for this study, we recruited wine experts from Australia, actively working in the wine industry, and also wine experts from China, working in the wine industry, and brought them to campus and ask them to rate their preferences on particular aromas and flavor characteristics that they noted in a panel of wines. These were very high-quality wines. We knew with wine experts, we couldn't just give them our loved wines, for example, which can be a little bit patchy quality wise. We asked them to rate their preferences, and then we collected saliva samples. The saliva samples were really interesting. We looked at 2 different aspects. We looked at the proteins that were present in the saliva samples. And we also looked at the oral microbiome. So the salivary microbiome—the bacteria, in particular—that are present. We found some really interesting things. And this has sparked a big area in our lab. So while the main enzymatic activities in the different groups of participants were quite similar—so esterase activity, Alpha amylase activity were similar—we found that there was a difference in the abundance of proline rich proteins and other potential flavor carrying compounds. Now, this is quite speculative. We'd like to know why this is the case. And so we're delving a little bit further into this area. What we do know though is that the abundances, especially if these proline rich proteins, is correlated with how people perceive the stringency. Now stringency is one of those characteristics in wine which is quite difficult to appreciate. It’s a lack of drying characteristic on the tongue and in the mouth and oral cavity. Some people find it quite attractive, others don't. But we found that the abundance of these polyproline-rich proteins correlates with stringency. This is, in fact, found in other studies because proline-rich proteins interact with polyphenols in the wine, and precipitate, which changes the sensation of astringency in the oral cavity. So here we've got a nice link to protein abundance and how people perceive flavor. But we're talking about microbiology, so maybe I should delve into the microbiological aspects of these studies as well. In that particular study that I'm referring to, we used wines that were naturally fermented, and that's the other variability that we need to consider when we think about wines from different areas. So, a natural fermentation, in a wine sense, is the grapes are harvested, and whatever microflora is present on the grapes will just ferment, and we often don't know what the main fermenting parties are. But if you contrast that with a majority of commercial wine that's produced, mainly in Australia, but also worldwide, it's inoculated with a selected strain of Saccharomyces or maybe 2 selected strains of Saccharomyces, and that tends to produce a fairly similar flavor profile, regardless of region. So, you can flatten out geographical characteristics and indications of flavor by inoculating a particular strain of yeast to ferment. That's not true with a natural fermentation, because that's conducted by the yeasts, and also the bacteria which just happened to be in the environment. So, I agree with you there is a lot of regional variation with wine flavor. And we can correlate that with regional diversity of yeast, but only if the wines are naturally fermented not if they're inoculated with a selected strain. Links for the Episode: LC-ESI-QTOF/MS Characterisation of Phenolic Acids and Flavonoids in Polyphenol-Rich Fruits and Vegetables and Their Potential Antioxidant Activities. Frozen, canned or fermented: when you can't shop often for fresh vegetables, what are the best alternatives? Early Prediction of Shiraz Wine Quality Based on Small Volatile Compounds in Grapes. Building the climate resilience of Melbourne's Food System. Let us know what you thought about this episode by tweeting at us @ASMicrobiology or leaving a comment on facebook.com/asmfan.

Jun 2, 2023 • 42min
AncientBiotics With Steve Diggle and Freya Harrison
Dr. Steve Diggle, ASM Distinguished Lecturer and Microbiology Professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, Georgia and Dr. Freya Harrison, Associate Microbiology Professor at the University of Warwick in Coventry, U.K., discuss the science behind medieval medical treatments and the benefits of interdisciplinary research. Ashley's Biggest Takeaways Diggle and Harrison met in Oxford, where Harrison was finishing up her Ph.D. and Diggle was doing background research for his work studying evolutionary questions about quorum sensing. When Diggle began searching for a postdoc, Harrison, who had been conducting an independent fellowship at Oxford and studying social evolution, applied. The AncientBiotics Consortium is a group of experts from the sciences, arts and humanities, who are digging through medieval medical books in hopes of finding ancient solutions to today’s growing threat of antibiotic resistance. The group’s first undertaking was recreation and investigation of the antimicrobial properties of an ancient eyesalve described in Bald’s Leechbook, one of the earliest known medical textbooks, which contains recipes for medications, salves and treatments. The consortium found that the eyesalve was capable of killing MRSA, a discovery that generated a lot of media attention and sparked expanded research efforts. The group brought data scientists and mathematicians into the consortium (work driven by Dr. Erin Connelly from the University of Warwick). Together, the researchers began scouring early modern and medieval texts and turning them into databases. The goal? To mathematically data mine these recipes see which ingredients were very often or non-randomly combined in ancient medical remedies. The group recently published work showing synergistic antimicrobial effects of acetic acid and honey. They are also working to pull out the active compounds from Bald’s eyesalve and make a synthetic cocktail that could be added to a wound dressings. A 1,000-Year-Old Antimicrobial Remedy with Antistaphylococcal Activity. Medieval medicine: the return to maggots and leeches to treat ailments. A case study of the Ancientbiotics collaboration. Phase 1 safety trial of a natural product cocktail with antibacterial activity in human volunteers. Sweet and sour synergy: exploring the antibacterial and antibiofilm activity of acetic acid and vinegar combined with medical-grade honeys. Let us know what you thought about this episode by tweeting at us @ASMicrobiology or leaving a comment on facebook.com/asmfan.

May 5, 2023 • 34min
Sending Yeast to the Moon With Jessica Lee
Dr. Jessica Lee, scientist for the Space Biosciences Research Branch at NASA’s AIMS Research Center in Silicon Valley uses both wet-lab experimentation and computational modeling to understand what microbes really experience when they come to space with humans. She discusses space microbiology, food safety and microbial food production in space and the impacts of microgravity and extreme radiation when sending Saccharomyces cerevisiae to the moon. Ashley's Biggest Takeaways Lee applied for her job at NASA in 2020. Prior to her current position, she completed 2 postdocs and spent time researching how microbes respond to stress at a population level and understanding diversity in microbial populations. She has a background in microbial ecology, evolution and bioinformatics. Model organisms are favored for space research because they reduce risk, maximize the science return and organisms that are well understood are more easily funded. Unsurprisingly, most space research does not actually take place in space, because it is difficult to experiment in space. Which means space conditions must be replicated on Earth. This may be accomplished using creative experimental designs in the wet-lab, as well as using computational modeling. Links for the Episode: Out of This World: Microbes in Space. Register for ASM Microbe 2023. Add “The Math of Microbes: Computational and Mathematical Modeling of Microbial Systems,” to your ASM Microbe agenda. Let us know what you thought about this episode by tweeting at us @ASMicrobiology or leaving a comment on facebook.com/asmfan.

Apr 13, 2023 • 49min
Invisible Extinction: The Loss of Our Microbes with Maria Gloria Dominguez-Bello and Martin Blaser
Dr. Maria Gloria Dominguez-Bello, Henry Rutgers Professor of Microbiome and Health and director of the Rutgers-based New Jersey Institute for Food, Nutrition and Health, and Dr. Martin Blaser, Professor of Medicine and Pathology and Laboratory Medicine and director of the Center for Advanced Biotechnology and Medicine at Rutgers (NJ) discuss the importance of preserving microbial diversity in the human microbiome. The pair, whose research was recently featured in a documentary The Invisible Extinction, are on a race to prevent the loss of ancestral microbes and save the bacteria that contribute to human health and well-being. Links for the Episode: The Invisible Extinction (documentary) Missing Microbes (book) Missing Microbes: How the Overuse of Antibiotics Is Fueling Our Modern Plagues (article) (YouTube) Missing Microbes with Dr. Martin Blaser

Feb 7, 2023 • 57min
The Self-Experimentation of Barry Marshall
Dr. Robert Gaynes, distinguished physician and professor of infectious diseases at Emory University, joins Meet the Microbiologist for the 3rd , and final, episode in a unique 3-part segment, in which we share stories about the life and work of medial pioneers in infectious diseases. Here we discuss the career of Dr. Barry Marshall, the Australian physician who is best known for demonstrating in a rather unorthodox way that peptic ulcers are caused by the bacterium, Helicobacter pylori. Gaynes is author of Germ Theory: Medical Pioneers in Infectious Diseases, the 2nd edition of which will publish in Spring 2023. All 3 scientists highlighted in this special MTM segment are also featured in the upcoming edition of the book.

Dec 22, 2022 • 1h 13min
The Career of Tony Fauci
Dr. Robert Gaynes, distinguished physician and professor of infectious diseases at Emory University, joins Meet the Microbiologist for the 2nd episode in a unique 3-part series, in which we share the impact of scientists at the heart of various paradigm shifts throughout scientific history. Here we discuss the life and career of Tony Fauci, the scientist who has been recognized as America’s Top Infectious Diseases Doctor and “voice of science” during the COVID-19 pandemic. Ashley's Biggest Takeaways Fauci was born in Brooklyn, New York. He was a 2nd generation American whose parents came from Italy. Fauci’s father was a pharmacist in Brooklyn and was very influential in his life. During high school, Fauci worked behind the counter at the family pharmacy and even delivered prescriptions by bicycle. He attended a Jesuit high school in Manhattan, and attended the College of Holy Cross. After college, Fauci attended Cornell Medical School in Manhattan, which was his first choice of medical school. Fauci graduated first in his class in medical school in the mid 1960’s, right in the midst of the Vietnam War. During that time, after completing their initial residency training, virtually all doctors were drafted into one of the military services or the U.S. Public Health Service. Fauci accepted into the NIH program within the U.S. Public Health Service, where he acquired training and a fellowship in Clinical Immunology and Infectious Diseases. Fauci became the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID) in 1984. Fauci served as advisor to 7 U.S. presidents, including Ronald Regan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump and Joe Biden. 15 years after the creation of PEPFAR, Fauci reported, in the New England Journal of Medicine, that PEPFAR funded programs had provided antiretroviral therapy to 13.3 M people, averted 2.2 M perinatal HIV infections and provided care for more than 6.4 M orphans and vulnerable children. The first edition of "Germ Theory: Medical Pioneers in Infectious Diseases" is available now. The 2nd edition will publish in the spring of 2023.

Nov 19, 2022 • 58min
Françoise Barré-Sinoussi's Discovery of HIV
Dr. Robert Gaynes, distinguished physician and professor of infectious diseases at Emory University, joins Meet the Microbiologist for a unique episode, in which we share the story of Françoise Barré-Sinoussi, the French, female scientist who discovered HIV and found herself at the heart of one of the most bitter scientific disputes in recent history. Subscribe (free) on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts, Android, RSS or by email. Ashley's Biggest Takeaways The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report first reported on a cluster of unusual infections in June of 1981, which would become known as AIDS. Evidence suggested that the disease was sexually transmitted and could be transferred via contaminated blood supply and products, as well as contaminated needles, and could be passed from mother to child. All hemophiliacs of this generation acquired AIDS (15,000 in the U.S. alone). The fact that the microbe was small enough to evade filters used to screen the clotting factor given to hemophiliacs indicated that the etiologic agent was a virus. AIDS patients had low counts of T-lymphocytes called CD4 cells. By 1993, the most likely virus candidates included, a relative of hepatitis B virus, some kind of herpes virus or a retrovirus. Howard Temin discovered reverse transcriptase, working with Rous sarcoma in the 50s and 60s. His work upset the Central Dogma of Genetics, and at first people not only did not believe him, but also ridiculed him for this claim. Research conducted by David Baltimore validated Temin’s work, and Temin, Baltimore and Renato Dulbecco shared the Nobel Prize for the discovery in 1975. Robert Gallo of the U.S. National Institute of Health (NIH), discovered the first example of a human retrovirus—human T-cell lymphotropic virus (HTLV-1). Françoise Barré-Sinoussi worked on murine retroviruses in a laboratory unit run by Luc Montagnier, where she became very good at isolating retroviruses from culture. In 1982, doctors gave lab Montagnier’s lab a sample taken from a with generalized adenopathy, a syndrome that was a precursor to AIDS. Barré-Sinoussi began to detect evidence of reverse transcriptase in cell culture 2 days after the samples were brought to her lab. Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier were recognized for the discovery of HIV with the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. Links for the Episode: From the ancient worlds of Hippocrates and Avicenna to the early 20th century hospitals of Paul Ehrlich and Lillian Wald to the modern-day laboratories of François Barré-Sinoussi and Barry Marshall, Germ Theory brings to life the inspiring stories of medical pioneers whose work helped change the very fabric of our understanding of how we think about and treat infectious diseases. Germ Theory: Medical Pioneers in Infectious Diseases The second edition of Germ Theory, which will include chapters on Françoise Barré-Sinoussi, Barry Marshall and Tony Fauci, will publish in Spring 2023.

Oct 28, 2022 • 38min
Permafrost with Devin Drown
Episode Summary Dr. Devin Drown, associate professor of biology and faculty director of the Institute of Arctic Biology Genomics Core at the University of Alaska Fairbanks, discusses how soil disturbance gradients in the permafrost layer impact microbial communities. He also explains the larger impacts of his research on local plant, animal and human populations, and shares his experience surveilling SARS-CoV-2 variants in Alaska, where he and colleagues have observed a repeat pattern of founder events in the state. Ashley's Biggest Takeaways Permafrost is loosely defined as soil that has been frozen for 2 or more years in a row. Some permafrost can be quite young, but a lot of it is much older—1000s of years old. This frozen soil possesses large storage capacity for walking carbon and other kinds of nutrients that can be metabolized by microbes as well as other organisms living above the frozen ground. About 85% of the landmass in Alaska is underlined by permafrost. Some is continuous permafrost, while other areas of landmass are discontinuous permafrost—locations where both unfrozen soil and frozen soil are present. As this frozen resource is thawing as a result of climate change, it is releasing carbon and changing soil hydrology and nutrient composition, in the active layer in the soil surrounding it. Changes in the nutrients and availability of those nutrients are also likely changing the structure of the microbial communities. Drown and team are using a combination of traditional (amplicon sequencing) and 3rd generation (nanopore) next sequencing (NGS) techniques to characterize the microbes and genes that are in thawing permafrost soil. Featured Quotes: “Globally, we've seen temperatures increase here in the Arctic. Changes in global temperatures are rising even faster, 2-3 times, and I've heard recent estimates that are even higher than that.” “These large changes in temperatures are causing direct impacts on the thaw of the permafrost. But they're also generating changes in other patterns, like increases in wildfires. We just had a substantial wildfire season here in Alaska, and those wildfires certainly contribute to additional permafrost thaw by sometimes removing that insulating layer of soil that might keep that ground frozen, as well as directly adding heat to the to the soil.” “There are other changes that might be causing permafrost thaw, like anthropogenic changes, changes in land use patterns. As we build and develop roads into areas that haven't been touched by humans in a long time. We're seeing changes in disruption to permafrost.” “Some people are quite interested in what might be coming out of the permafrost. We might see nutrients, as well as microorganisms that are moving from this frozen bank of soil into the active layer.” “We're using next generation sequencing techniques to characterize not only who is in these soils, but also what they're doing.” “I started as a faculty member in 2015. As I moved up to Alaska, I got some really great advice from a postdoctoral mentor that said, make sure you choose something local. I'm fortunate enough that I have access to permafrost thaw gradient, that's effectively in the backyard of my office.” “Just a few miles from campus, we have access to a site that's managed by the Army Corps of Engineers. They have a cold regions group up here that runs a more famous permafrost tunnel. So they've dug a deep tunnel into the side of a hill that stretches back about 40,000 years into permafrost. They also have a great field site that has an artificially induced permafrost thaw gradient, and a majority of our published work has been generated by taking soil cores from that field site.” “Maintaining that cold chain, whether it’s experimental reagents or experimental samples, is a challenge for everyone. We're collecting active layer soil—the soil directly beneath our feet—so that's not at terribly extreme temperatures. But we do put it in coolers immediately upon extracting from the from the environment. Then we can bring it back to our lab where we can freeze it if we're going to use it for later analysis, or we can keep it at appropriately cool temperatures, if we're going to be working with the microbial community directly.” “We were most interested in looking for microbes that might have impacts on the above ground. ecosystem. So when we were characterizing the microbial community, we were doing that because we also wanted to link it to above ground changes.” “Changes in vegetation that might be driven by changes in microorganisms would certainly have an impact on the wildlife that are that are present at the site. So, just as an example, if we see a decrease in berries that might be present, that might decrease the interest from animals that rely on that [food source]. And so we might see changes in who's there.” “Outside of my research, we've seen changes in the types of plants present across northern latitudes. So different willows, for instance, are moving farther north, and that is leading animals, like moose, to move farther north. And so we might see changes in those kinds of patterns directly as a result of the microorganisms as well.” “We're really working to expand our efforts to move to other kinds of disturbances. I mentioned wildfires before, these are an important source of disturbance for boreal forest ecosystems. We have a project here in the interior, looking at the impacts of wildfires on microbial communities and how [these disturbances] might be changing the functional potential of microbial communities.” Let us know what you thought about this episode by tweeting at us @ASMicrobiology or leaving a comment on facebook.com/asmfan.

Oct 17, 2022 • 55min
To Catch a Virus with Marie Landry and John Booss
Dr. Marie Landry, Professor of Laboratory medicine and Infectious Diseases at Yale University School of Medicine and Dr. John Booss, former National Director of Neurology for the Department of Veteran’s Affairs discuss the past, present and future of diagnostic virology. These proclaimed coauthors walk us through the impact of some of the most significant pathogens of our time in preparation for the launch of their 2nd edition of “To Catch a Virus,” a book that recounts the history of viral epidemics from the late 1800s to present in a gripping storytelling fashion. Ashley's Biggest Takeaways Coauthoring a book requires having great respect for the opinions of the person you are working with. The first human disease shown to be viral in nature was yellow fever, but for quite some time, the mode of disease transmission remained mysterious. In early 1881, Carlos Finlay of Cuba suggested that the disease could be spread by mosquitoes and significantly advanced the field. It wasn’t until polio was discovered in the early 1900s that scientists determined that viruses could also be transmitted by and animals. The ability to grow virus in tissue culture was another huge advancement in the field of diagnostic virology, which eventually led to the development of the Salk inactivated polio vaccine (IPV). Although he did not seek the spotlight for his work, Walter Roe, was a bright, hardworking (and one of John’s favorite) virologist, who made important advances in tissue culture, researched the role of retroviruses in animal cancer and discovered adenoviruses. As a result of the COVID-19 pandemic, the clinical laboratory played a central role in public health. The importance of a laboratory diagnosis became more evident and next generation sequencing moved further into the clinical lab. Featured Quotes: “Advice that was given to me way back when I started on my first book is that you have to write about something you're passionate about. You have to really believe in the topic because otherwise it'll come across as superficial and artificial. So the very first step is do you really believe in, [and in the case of writing a book, that means] believe in what you're writing about.” – Booss. “Science is often projected as a steady stream of advances one after the other. But there is a certain amount, I think, of arbitrary choice at each step. And it's also true for for writing a book.” – Booss “In putting the book together, there are obviously major events that occurred in virology, major crises that move the field forward, an interplay, really, of the scientific advances, the clinical need of the crisis at hand and some very remarkable people. One highlight of this book is the way it does focus on individuals and their stories and how they contributed to that progress.” -Landry “When [pathogens] spread from a local area to a larger area geopolitical area or even globally, they become pandemic.” Polio “The most compelling virus that I can think of in my youth was obviously polio. So when I was a small child, polio was causing epidemics every summer, at the end of which, between 20 and 30,000 children in the United States were left either paralyzed or dead. So this was it really struck fear into parents hearts.” – Landry “And then came the oral polio vaccine. We lined up, and it was a very, very painless way to be immunized. So that was a tremendous success story, we've come very close to eliminating polio, because of a number of reasons it hasn't happened.” - Landry “There was a case recently of paralytic polio in New York, in an unvaccinated person. And I hope this is a wake-up call, we really thought we were about to eliminate before COVID. And then with those disruptions and others, there's been a little resurgence, but I hope that it will be accomplished soon.” -Landry COVID-19 “It's amazing how much the world did change. International economies collapsed. whole societies shut down. The education and socialization of children came to a screeching halt. As schools close, whole chasms of inequality opened up or were revealed. And also the poor and marginalized people were the ones who suffered most. And the U.S. cultural divisions interfered with attempts to block the disease. So that by 2022, the U.S. was unique in having over 1 million deaths. We lead unfortunately led the world in that regard.” – Booss “Sometimes we need a crisis to move us forward. And we saw this with the new vaccine platforms, especially the mRNA vaccine.” Let us know what you thought about this episode by tweeting at us @ASMicrobiology or leaving a comment on facebook.com/asmfan. Links From yellow fever and smallpox, to polio, AIDS and COVID-19, To Catch a Virus guides readers through the mysterious process of catching novel viruses and controlling deadly viral epidemics— and the detective work of those determined to identify the culprits and treat the infected. The new edition will be released October 15, 2022, available at asm.org/books

Oct 1, 2022 • 1h 12min
Outbreak Detection with Wun-Ju Shieh
Dr. Wun-Ju Shieh, worked as a pathologist and infectious diseases expert with the CDC from 1995-2020. He recounts his experiences conducting high risk autopsies on the frontlines of outbreaks including Ebola, H1N1 influenza, monkeypox and SARS-CoV-1 and 2. He also addresses key questions about factors contributing to the (re)emergence and spread of pathogens and discusses whether outbreaks are becoming more frequent or simply more widely publicized. Ashley’s Biggest Takeaways: • Pathologists are a group of medical doctors serving behind the line of the daily hospital activities. • Pathology service can be divided into atomic pathology and clinical pathology. The field covers all the laboratory diagnostic work in the hospital, and clinical microbiology or medical microbiology is actually a subdivision within the clinical pathology service. • Usually, a pathologist working in a hospital will examine and dissect tissue specimens from surgery or biopsy. • The pathologist also performs autopsies as requested to determine or confirm the cause of death. • Serving as first a clinician in Taiwan and then a pathologist in the United States has provided Shieh with the unique experience of evaluating patients from both the outside-in and the inside-out! • Even when a major outbreak of a known etiologic agent is taking place, confirmatory diagnosis is necessary for subsequent quarantine, control and prevention of the outbreak. • During major disease outbreaks, other pathogens do not go away, and we must simultaneously facilitate their timely diagnosis to ensure effective patient treatment and care. • SARS-CoV-2 appears to be transmitted more easily than SARS-CoV-1. One possible explanation for this is that the amount of viral load appears to be the highest in the upper respiratory tract of those with COVID-19, shortly after the symptoms develop. This indicates that people with COVID-19 may be transmitting the virus early in infection, just as their symptoms are developing…or even before they appear or without symptoms. • SARS-CoV-1 viral loads peak much later in the illness. • Asymptomatic transmission is rarely seen with SARS-CoV-1 infection. • Almost 99% of SARS-CoV-1 patients developed prominent fever when they started to carry infectivity. Temperature monitoring was therefore, very effective at detecting sick patients and facilitating prompt quarantining procedures, which effectively contained/minimized transmission of the virus. • This was not as effective for SARS-CoV-2, despite early attempts at temperature. monitoring. • SARS-CoV-2 was much harder to contain both because of the milder display of host symptoms and the demonstration of higher viral transmissibility.