
The Short Term Show
The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental (Airbnb) investing and management. Host Avery Carl interviews successful real estate investors and CEOs of Airbnb related startups to bring inspirational and actionable content to listeners. Whether you are an experienced Airbnb investor or co-host, or you’re just getting started, The Short Term Show is your home for all things short term rental content.
About the host: Avery Carl bought her first Airbnb in 2015, and has since built a portfolio of over 250 doors, is the author of bestseller Short Term Rental, Long Term wealth, and is the CEO and Founder of The Short Term Shop, the country’s largest Airbnb-specific real estate team, with over 5,000 Airbnb investors served in 20 markets. The Short Term Shop has been named the #1 team worldwide at EXP 3x, has been featured in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Forbes, and USA Today.
Latest episodes

Jan 11, 2023 • 31min
Taking an Eclectic Path with Matt Picheny
This week Avery chats with investor, Tony award winner, and author Matt Picheny. We've had many guests on the show to talk about the renting side of arbitrage, but Matt is our first guest who is able to tell us about the owning side of an arbitrage deal. They also talk about transitioning from the arts to real estate, and more!
Matt is a real estate investor, Tony award winner, and author of the #1 best-selling book Backstage Guide to Real Estate. With over 15 years of experience revitalizing and elevating communities through real estate investment, he's invested in over 10,000 apartments nationwide. Matt is a licensed real estate agent and have earned both Commercial Real Estate & Real Estate Finance certificates from Boston University. Matt is a PMI certified Project Management Professional and digital marketing veteran whose 18-year career in the advertising world included working for some of the world’s largest advertising agencies, producing award-winning projects for Fortune 500 clients including Verizon, IBM, and Coca-Cola.
Connect with Matt:
Picheny.com
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/

Jan 4, 2023 • 29min
Set Your Listing Apart with Julie Gates
This week Avery sits down again with property manager Julie Gates. Julie has one important PSA for us all: Photos and decor matter! Avery and Julie talk about some exciting updates coming to booking.com, Expedia/VRBO, and how to use photos and decor to set yourself up for success.
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/

Dec 28, 2022 • 43min
Building a Diversified Portfolio with Jonathan Farber
This week Avery sits down with Jonathan Farber, host of the Millenial Millionaires Through Real Estate podcast. Jonathan gives us his thoughts why you could keep buying long term rentals(as well as short term). He also gives us some insight on how he uses virtual assistants, how he delegates his tasks, and when to implement virtual assistants.
Jonathan is a side hustle real estate investor. He was able to achieve financial freedom at 27 and leave his corporate enterprise technology sales job to focus on traditional rentals, short term rentals, airbnb arbitrage and wholesaling, podcasting and course creation. He started with househacking from 21-25 and then started buying traditional rentals and short term rentals with creative acquisition and financing strategies. Jonathan has done this through the use of virtual assistants, systems and a few close team members. He has trained and hired over 5 VA’s who currently help with the day to day and growth of the business. Jonathan grew up in New York and currently splits time between Raleigh, North Carolina, Florida and Long Island. He played golf for Hofstra university and still loves to play.
How to connect with Jonathan:
https://jonfarber.co/
Instagram: @jonjfarb
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/

Dec 21, 2022 • 39min
Identify Your Goals with Steven Rozenberg
This week Avery has a really wonderful conversation with commercial airline pilot, speaker and coach, Steve Rozenberg. Steve shares many stories with us from his 20 years of experience in the real estate industry. Avery and Steve discuss wholesaling and flipping, almost going bankrupt and the importance of identifying your goals as well as using strategy to achieve them.
How to connect with Steve:
@RozenbergSteve
steverozenberg.com
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/

Dec 14, 2022 • 41min
The Ins and Outs of Flipping with Brian Davila
On this week's episode of the Short Term Show, Avery sits down with Future Flipper COO Brian Davila to talk all about flipping. Brian gives some tips on scaling and building systems, how to vet your contractors, and gives us his advice on keeping your contractors on time and on budget.
How to connect with Brian:
@TheBrianDavila
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/

Dec 7, 2022 • 46min
Optimize Your Taxes Like a CPA with Ryan Bakke
On this week's episode of the Short Term Show, Avery picks Ryan Bakke's brain on all the ways to optimize your real estate taxes. They go over REP status, how to lower your tax bracket for retirement, self directed IRAs, HSA accounts and more!
How to connect with Ryan:
learnlikeacpa.com
@LearnLikeACPA
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/

Nov 30, 2022 • 47min
Getting Started with Franchises with Kim Daly
On this week's episode of the Short Term Show, Avery does a deep dive on franchises with Kim Daly. Kim gives some helpful tips on how to get started, how to choose the right franchise for you, how to keep your mindset right and more. Kim and Avery discuss buying new vs established franchises, the major pitfalls to franchise investing and Kim also breaks down the hefty investment costs.
For the past 20 years Kim Daly has been helping entrepreneurs, investors, and stuck 9-5 professionals take control of their lives and step out of the corporate cycle by investing intelligently in the franchise businesses and become "franchisepreneurs." She is an international best-selling co-author of Franchising Freedom and the founder and host of the Kim Daly TV YouTube channel. Before becoming a franchise consultant Kim was an entrepreneur and highly sought after consultant in the health and fitness industry working with brands such as Denise Austin, Dr.Denis Waitley, Gold’s Gym and eDiets.com. She is the creator of “The Daly Plan” – a millionaire mindset coaching program that enabled her to build the largest franchise consulting business in the history of franchise consulting in 2012. She aspires to be the most influential and motivational voice in the franchise industry. Kim is a mom of two teenage boys. She is passionate about fitness and nutrition. She lives on the beach in Southern New Hampshire where she loves to ski in the winter and workout year round.
How to connect with Kim:
kimdaly.tv
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/

Nov 23, 2022 • 49min
The Quitter's Manifesto Book with Pat Hiban
On this week's episode of the Short Term Show, Avery chats with Pat Hiban, author of The Quitter's Manifesto. They discuss all things from getting out of brokerage and into investing to the always changing short term rental laws and more. Avery and Pat also discuss the importance of not only diversifying your portfolio, but also your investment locations. Pat discusses a few sections from his new book, The Quitter's Manifesto.
How to connect with Pat:
quittersmanifestobook.com
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/
The Short Term Show is made possible in part by our sponsors.
Relay is a no-fee, online banking and money management platform. Spend, save and plan more efficiently with unparalleled clarity into operating expenses, cash flow and accounts payable. Visit https://relayfi.com/theshorttermshop to get started.

Nov 16, 2022 • 42min
Top STR Agents on How To Find Great Deals in Today's Market
This week Avery has a very exciting panel discussion with some of the top STR agents around. Derek Tellier, Tim Grillot, Kelsey Ardoin and Jeff Brown join Avery to discuss finding deals in the current market. They go over what to look for, what questions to ask yourself and your lender, and how to avoid analysis paralysis.
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/
The Short Term Show is made possible in part by our sponsors.
Relay is a no-fee, online banking and money management platform. Spend, save and plan more efficiently with unparalleled clarity into operating expenses, cash flow and accounts payable. Visit https://relayfi.com/theshorttermshop to get started.

Nov 9, 2022 • 31min
Yoseph West - CEO/Co-Founder of Relay
This week Avery does a deep dive on all things Relay with CEO/Co-Founder, Yoseph West! They discuss the ease of integrating Relay bank into your systems, the convenience of having the ability to create different cards for different purposes, and more!
How to connect with Avery:
The Short Term Shop - https://theshorttermshop.com/
Follow Avery Carl on Instagram - @theshorttermshop
For more information on how to get into short term rentals, read Avery’s Book, Short-Term Rental, Long-Term Wealth: Your Guide to Analyzing, Buying, and Managing Vacation Properties
- https://amzn.to/3Adg6PA
Need lending for your Short Term Rental? Get Pre-Approved on a loan with up to 89.99% of LTV with The Mortgage Shop - https://mortgage.shop/
The Short Term Show is made possible in part by our sponsors.
Relay is a no-fee, online banking and money management platform. Spend, save and plan more efficiently with unparalleled clarity into operating expenses, cash flow and accounts payable. Visit https://relayfi.com/theshorttermshop to get started.