

Mahabharata Podcast
Lawrence Manzo
An English language re-telling of the ancient epic Mahabharat.
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Jun 6, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 60 - The Gita, part 2: The Godhead
Episode 60 - This concludes Krishna's dialog with Arjun about Dharma, Bhakti, Yoga, and the Gunas. During the course of this, Arjun is granted divine sight, and is able to catch a glimpse of Krishna's true appearance; it nearly blows his mind.
Getting back to Arjun's original question-- Does Arjun's Dharma really require him to kill his relatives and gurus? and how can this can be a good thing? It seems like a lot of Krishna's teaching is addressed to posterity, because advice to meditate more often isn't exactly going to propel Arjun into the battlefield. I think the convincing part of it for Arjun was the divine vision in which he saw his enemies rushing inexorably to their deaths. Whether he followed his Dharma, or ran away, these guys were dead men walking. So the decision to fight was a personal one. Whether he fired the arrow that killed his grandfather or not, the sin of murder would not be on his conscience.
This ends the Gita. We have only one small formality to take care of, and then finally the battle will begin-- next episode!

May 24, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 59 - The Gita, part 1: Arjun's Dejection
Episode 59 - We begin the famous holy book, the Bhagavad Gita. The scene for this revelation is the midst of the fateful battlefield of Kurukshetra. Arjun surveys the field, seeing his relatives, friends, cousins, uncles, elders and gurus, all ready to draw each other's blood and die for the sake of his dynastic dispute. For the good guys to win, Arjun will personally be responsible for the death of the people he respects the most in the whole world.
He simple cannot go on with it. Arjun drops his bow and sits down. Better to die than to go forward with the slaughter. Fortunately, Krishna is right there to remind him, and us, what life is really about. It is not about sitting around, worrying about the outcomes of our actions. We are here to get on with the story, keep moving, and most of all, follow our Dharma.
We get a lesson in cosmology, philosophy and even advice on how to meditate. It's good stuff, and there's more to come. We're about half-way through the Gita. We'll get to the remainder next time!

May 17, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 58 - The Bhisma Parva
Episode 58 - The Battle Books, but not the battle, begin here. Since we are at the second most important beginning of the epic, aside from the very beginning, there is a lot of unnecessary material stuffed into the narrative. I tried my best to make sense of it, and to leave out the voluminous details that had nothing to do with the story at hand. I also tried to iron out the repeated descriptions of the armies' dispositions, and the scene of the two sides lined up prior to battle. This is one of the most difficult episodes I've had to produce, so I hope I was able to make some sense out of it.
We also belatedly get an explanation for Sanjay's magic vision. It turns out Vyasa popped in and granted him that ability. Maybe this scene really occurred when Krishna was still in town for negotiations, because it was Krishna's conversation with Karna that Sanjay was first able to report on without actually being there. Otherwise, there is no explanation for those earlier feats of clairvoyance.
This confusing little prelude leads right up to the Bhagavad Gita, which is the very next chapter in the Bhisma Parva. We'll begin on that in the next episode.
It is also worth repeating the observation J.A.B. van Buitenen made about the composition of the two armies facing off at Kurukshetra. It turns out that the armies that allied with the Pandavas all came from kingdoms to the south and east of Hastinapur, while the Kauravas' allies were all from the north and west.
The timeless pattern of Indian migrations and invasions has always been a flow of people coming out of the northwest and conquering or settling in the richer lands of the south and east. If there is some macro-economic or demographic movement happening behind the human drama, perhaps we are looking at a folk recollection of some past invasion, which was stopped by the Indian heroes and their advisor Krishna. Maybe Alexander was in there somewhere, on the Kauravas' side?!?

May 11, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 57 - Amba, part 2
Episode 57 - Bhisma finishes bringing us up-to-date on who Sikhandin is, who he used to be, and why Bhisma won't fight him.
This also finishes the Udyoga Parva; the Book of the Effort. Next time, we start in on the Bhisma Parva, the first of the eight Battle Books. Don't assume that the war is about to start, just because we end off on the dawn of the first day of the war. We still have a lengthy introduction in the Bhisma Parva, and then there is the Bhagavad Gita, which will take a few episodes-- we don't want to rush things!

May 3, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 56 - Amba, part 1
Episode 56 - Bhisma begins telling the story of Amba/Sikhandin-- the only person, barring the Pandavas, whom he will not fight in the coming battle. The reason for this is that Sikhandin had once been a female. She was not just any female at that-- she was Draupadi's sister, and in her past life, she'd had a bad run-in with Bhisma, making her his sworn enemy from beyond the grave.
We begin the story with Amba's abduction, along with her sisters Ambika and Ambalika, by Bhisma to provide wives for his brother. When she announces her pre-arranged betrothal with Shalva, she is freed to go to him. A comedy of errors ensues when he questions her virtue, and then she breaks from her escort, ruining her reputation. But this is a deadly serious matter. The girl is now unmarriageable, and her father would be unlikely to take her back. She has died to her caste and is possibly the most vulnerable person in all of India.
Amba seeks shelter with the Brahmins & ascetics, and finally enlists Rama Jamadagni as her champion. Bhisma is too stubborn to even allow his own guru to make him take a woman of questionable virtue into his house, so Rama kills him. Bhisma has a near-death experience and is reminded of his past existence as one of the divine Vasus, and discovers that his holy brothers are still looking out for him.
Bhisma cannot die now, because his appointment with Destiny has already been set with the incarnation of the Primeval God, Nara Prajapati-- Arjuna Kaunteya.

Apr 27, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 55 - Cutting the Muster
Episode 55 - As if intending to seal his fate, Duryodhana warms up the Pandavas by sending over an odious gambler Uluka as a messenger to goad them into fighting. Then Bhisma kindly gives us an inventory of the fighters who will take place in the coming battle.
There are a bunch of guys who I've never heard of, and do not seem to have any important role to play in the story, so I've left them out, trying to keep the cast of characters under control. As for the rest, they are all rated between Rathas and Atirathas.
Finally, Bhisma assures the Kauravas that he could personally beat anyone on the opposing side, except for Arjun, but not to worry about Arjun, because he would never kill his elders or gurus. The others he would not kill: the Pandavas, any women, and anyone who used to be a woman. It turns out, there is one of these trannies on the Pandava side-- it's Drupad's 2nd son, Sikhandin. Next episode, Bhisma will tell us why it is he cannot kill this particular warrior.

Apr 26, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 54 - The March on Kurukshetra
Episode 54 - Krishna returns from his mission to Hastinpur with war on his mind. Yuddistira, having spent the last 12-14 years undergoing massive hardship to prevent this war, is reluctant to accept this truth. He begs for more information, trying to find any way out of this situation. So Krishna obliges by giving us the details of a few more speeches made in the Kuru court, but none of it helps. War is truly inevitable.
So both sides round up their armies and march on Kurukshetra. When they arrive, each side appoints a Commander in Chief. It is Bhisma on the Kaurava side, and King Drupad on the Pandavas' side.
From this point until the end of the war, the main narrative frame of the story will be told in terms of a conversation between Sanjay and Dhrtarastra. The Epic has so far not explained how it is that Sanjay knows what is going on at the far-off battlefield, but somehow he knows everything, and is able to relate it all to his king. Occasionally, Dhrtarastra will interrupt with questions or react to the events, so it will be through his blind eyes that we shall perceive the coming war.
But don't be deceived that just because we are on the eve of war, that we will be soon getting to it. The Epic always takes its time, and there will still be quite a few more episodes before the action really starts. After al, we still need to get through the Bhagavad Gita!!!

Apr 19, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 53 - The Temptation of Karna
Episode 53 - This episode is devoted to the classic scene of the Mahabharata in which Krishna reveals to Karna his true descent. He never was the Son of a Suta, which everyone called him with scorn. No, he was in fact the eldest of the Pandavas-- the original Partha. Now that the truth was out, all Karna needed to do was embrace his Dharma, join his brothers, and assume the title of King of India.
Poor Karna, always the victim of bad timing. It was way too late for such an offer. Perhaps if Kunti had stood up and claimed him as her son during the Pandavas' first military exhibition, he might have come around then, but now there was too much water under the bridge. Karna had been tossed out as a baby like the day's garbage, and had been scorned as a Suta when he tried to display his Kshatriya nature. His modest Suta parents and the evil Kauravas had been the only ones to come to his aid, and he would never give them up.
Krishna failed in turning Karna, but somehow he allowed Sanjay to know of the entire conversation, so the story of Karna's descent and temptation was made known to all the Kauravas. Kunti caught wind of the encounter, and she made a go at turning him. She also failed, but she at least got the promise that he would spare her other sons, and should Arjun die, Karna would take his place as her fifth son.

Apr 12, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 52 - Krishna reveals Himself
Episode 52 - The peace talks break down completely. It starts well, when no one can come up with a rebuttal to Krishna's speech. Narada and Kanva tell a couple of parables to help with the decision making, but Duryodhana was not interested. It seems he believed that the terms of the Dice Game were that the Pandavas were to go to the forest forever, not just 13 years. Maybe it's true? What if the Pandavas had indeed been banished for life, but they decided to change the rules when Krishna & Drupad offered to help them overthrow their cousins? How would we know, since we only get the version of the story as told by the survivors of this war!?!
In any case, Duryodhana stuck to his story, and was adamant about refusing to bow to threats. They began talking of restraining the boy and sending him in fetters to the Pandavas, and Duryodhana in turn planned on capturing Krishna. When news of this arrived at the palace, Dhrtarastra blew his top and yelled at the boy. Then Krishna revealed his true nature, in front of the Kuru court.
The peace talks have failed. There is nothing more to do but get ready for war. But Krishna will stick around a little longer to meet with Kunti and then stir up some trouble by telling Karna about his true descent...

Apr 4, 2011 • 0sec
Episode 51 - Krishna comes to Town
Episode 51 - Sanjay's mission clearly did not accomplish much, so this time Krishna offers to go to Hastinapur as the Pandavas' chief negotiator. When the Kauravas hear he is coming, Dhrtarastra plans on bribing him, while Duryodhana hopes to imprison him.
Krishna senses all the bad vibes and decides to only stay & eat with Vidur. He also visits with the Pandavas' poor widowed mother Kunti, whom he tries to console. Surprisingly, Kunti blames her father for all her suffering. Kunti's father, Sura, was also Krishna's grandfather, and for some reason he gave her up for adoption to the chieftain Kuntibhoja. It was there, while living under Kuntibhoja's roof, that she was assigned to serve the creepy saddhu Durvasas. The result was that poor Kunti was saddled with an illegitimate baby-- young Karna.
Krishna assures his aunt that the Pandavas will soon make their comeback and all will be well. Then he pays a visit to Duryodhana. Duryodhana attempts to bribe him, but Krishna refuses to even eat with them. The following day, Krishna is summoned before the court of Hastinapur, where he makes his case for a settlement with the Pandavas.
The king and his councilors really don't have much to say by way of a rebuttal, so Parashurama breaks the silence by offering to tell a couple of parables. Next time, we'll hear these parables and then see how the negotiations turn out.