Rejected Religion Podcast

In Part 2, we continue our discussion by looking at how the women were received and perceived within Thelema. Manon explains her term "proximal authority" and how this relates to Leah, Jane, and Marjorie. We then move to how the women were discussed in the media, their reception outside of the official organization, the legacy of each of the women, and their impact and influence on our culture. PROGRAM NOTESThe Thelemic Women's History Project: The Thelemic Women's History Project | FacebookDr. Manon Hedenborg White on Academia.edu (multiple articles): (99+) Manon Hedenborg White | Södertörn University - Academia.eduThe Eloquent Blood: The Goddess Babalon and the Construction of Femininities in Western Esotericism: Amazon.com: The Eloquent Blood: The Goddess Babalon and the Construction of Femininities in Western Esotericism (Oxford Studies in Western Esotericism) (9780190065027): Hedenborg White, Manon: BooksWomen of Thelema: Selected Essays: Women of Thelema: Selected Essays – Zero Equals Two!Leah Hirsig's Diaries to be published: Leah Hirsig’s Magical Diaries To Be Published – Zero Equals Two!Lukas Vogel, Babalon: Babalon: Vogel, Lukas: Amazon.nlJane Wolfe - Red Flame: Jane Wolfe (Red Flame Thelemic Journal #10 & 11) ~ Dark Star MagickBlog about Marjorie Cameron: Marjorie Cameron | American artist, poet, actress and occultist (vamzzz.com)The Confessions of Aleister Crowley: http://www (the-eye.eu)Upcoming Zoom Lecture 17 JUNE: The Eloquent Blood: The Goddess Babalon - Dr.Manon Hedenborg White by Zoom | FacebookTwitter: Manon Hedenborg White (@Dr_ScarletWoman) / TwitterInstagram: Manon Hedenborg White (@dr_scarletwoman) • Instagram-foto's en -video's Theme music: Daniel P. SheaOther music: Stephanie Shea

In Part 1, Manon shares a bit of information about her project (funded by the Swedish Research Council), and what motivated her to start looking into the lives of three women within Thelema, and how the project has been going so far. She then gives an extensive biographical background of each of the women she's researching - Leah Hirsig, Jane Wolfe, and Marjorie Cameron - how they came to Thelema, and their fascinating roles within this group. PROGRAM NOTESThe Thelemic Women's History Project: The Thelemic Women's History Project | FacebookDr. Manon Hedenborg White on Academia.edu (multiple articles): (99+) Manon Hedenborg White | Södertörn University - Academia.eduThe Eloquent Blood: The Goddess Babalon and the Construction of Femininities in Western Esotericism: Amazon.com: The Eloquent Blood: The Goddess Babalon and the Construction of Femininities in Western Esotericism (Oxford Studies in Western Esotericism) (9780190065027): Hedenborg White, Manon: BooksWomen of Thelema: Selected Essays: Women of Thelema: Selected Essays – Zero Equals Two!Leah Hirsig's Diaries to be published: Leah Hirsig’s Magical Diaries To Be Published – Zero Equals Two!Lukas Vogel, Babalon: Babalon: Vogel, Lukas: Amazon.nlJane Wolfe - Red Flame: Jane Wolfe (Red Flame Thelemic Journal #10 & 11) ~ Dark Star MagickBlog about Marjorie Cameron: Marjorie Cameron | American artist, poet, actress and occultist (vamzzz.com)The Confessions of Aleister Crowley: http://www (the-eye.eu)Upcoming Zoom Lecture 17 JUNE: The Eloquent Blood: The Goddess Babalon - Dr.Manon Hedenborg White by Zoom | FacebookTwitter: Manon Hedenborg White (@Dr_ScarletWoman) / TwitterInstagram: Manon Hedenborg White (@dr_scarletwoman) • Instagram-foto's en -video's Theme music: Daniel P. SheaOther music: Stephanie Shea

In Part 2, we move into modernity, where Rune discusses the impact of a radicalized Protestantism that has had a disruptive impact on animist traditions, and the negative psychological effects that a disconnection from the land can cause. We then move to a discussion of how we can experiment in different ways to re-traditionalize ourselves with this knowledge before delving into the more controversial issue of extremist groups appropriating animist symbology for racist and nationalistic agendas. In keeping with the modern theme, Rune offers a very interesting story of the troll Tyr and how he can help us relate to each other in better ways on the Internet. We close by talking a bit about Rune's various platforms, and his book about the Nordic Animist Year/ calendar that he created. PROGRAM NOTES:Nordic Animism (NA) Website: Home Page (nordicanimism.com)NA YouTube Channel: Nordic Animism - YouTubeNA Facebook: Nordic Animism | FacebookNA Instagram: Nordic Animism (@nordic.animism) • Instagram-foto's en -video'sGraham Harvey Links: "Animism: Respecting the Living World" by Graham HarveyAnimism: Respecting the Living World: Harvey, Graham: 9780231137010: Amazon.com: BooksIrving Hallowell Links: Culture and Experience (Second Edition): A. Irving Hallowell: Amazon.com: BooksBear ceremonialism in the northern hemisphere: Hallowell, A. Irving: Amazon.com: BooksTyson Yunkaporta: Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World: Yunkaporta, Tyson: 9780062975645: Amazon.com: BooksThe Nordic Animist Year THE NORDIC ANIMIST YEAR - Books and Calendars - NORDIC ANIMISMArticle "Ragnarok is Coming': RAGNAROK IS COMING! Nordic Scholars: Ancient Viking prophecy speaks to our time. (nordicanimism.com) Theme Music: Daniel P. SheaOther Music: Stephanie SheaCover art used with permission from www.nordicanimism.com 

In Part 1, Rune and I talk about what animism is and how we can understand it, especially in relation to other religions such as Heathenry and (Neo)Paganism. We also discuss why this animist knowledge was rejected in the first place by looking back in history, and Rune explains important animist concepts, such as Ragnarok and Yggdrasil (the world tree), and how these concepts are extremely important to an animist understanding of our world. PROGRAM NOTES:Nordic Animism (NA) Website: Home Page (nordicanimism.com)NA YouTube Channel: Nordic Animism - YouTubeNA Facebook: Nordic Animism | FacebookNA Instagram: Nordic Animism (@nordic.animism) • Instagram-foto's en -video'sGraham Harvey Links: "Animism: Respecting the Living World" by Graham HarveyAnimism: Respecting the Living World: Harvey, Graham: 9780231137010: Amazon.com: BooksIrving Hallowell Links: Culture and Experience (Second Edition): A. Irving Hallowell: Amazon.com: BooksBear ceremonialism in the northern hemisphere: Hallowell, A. Irving: Amazon.com: BooksTyson Yunkaporta: Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World: Yunkaporta, Tyson: 9780062975645: Amazon.com: BooksThe Nordic Animist Year THE NORDIC ANIMIST YEAR - Books and Calendars - NORDIC ANIMISMArticle "Ragnarok is Coming': RAGNAROK IS COMING! Nordic Scholars: Ancient Viking prophecy speaks to our time. (nordicanimism.com) Theme Music: Daniel P. SheaOther Music: Stephanie SheaCover art used with permission from www.nordicanimism.com  

In Part 2, we jump back in with a more controversial topic, that of John Lamb Lash, and how his interpretation of the concept of Gnosticism has become intertwined with the Mandela Effect. We explore whether or not conspiracy theories are dangerous to society, but also note their more playful quality as we re-visit the old pranksters, the Discordians. We then move on to the topic of memory, how memory affects history, how remembering something actually creates new experiences and can affect our future memories, and what the reward could possibly be for people who believe in the Mandela Effect. Aaron also shares some interesting content regarding a possible PRE-Mandela Effect, and we close with Aaron sharing some other information about his work as a writer and editor of fantasy fiction.PROGRAM NOTESAaron J. French, "The Mandela Effect and New Memory" (99+) (PDF) The Mandela Effect and New Memory | Aaron French - Academia.edu"'The Mandela Effect' is the perfect film for our age of distrust and doubt" in The Conversation  'The Mandela Effect' is the perfect film for our age of distrust and doubt (theconversation.comErik Davis, High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies  High Weirdness | The MIT PressMicheal Barkun, A Culture of Conspiracy: Apocalyptic Visions in Contemporary America  A Culture of Conspiracy by Michael Barkun - Paperback - University of California Press (ucpress.edu)Karen M. Douglas et al., "The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories" The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories (sagepub.com)Jan-Willem van Prooijen & Mark van Vugt, "Conspiracy Theories: Evolved Functions and Psychological Mechanisms" Conspiracy Theories: Evolved Functions and Psychological Mechanisms (sagepub.com)Matthew Dillon, "The Heretical Library: The Nag Hammadi in American Religion and Culture" The Heretical Revival: The Nag Hammadi Library in American Religion and Culture (rice.edu)Trailer Steins;Gate Steins;Gate | Anime Trailer [HD] | 2011 - YouTubeWiki fanpage Steins;Gate Steins;Gate Wiki | FandomTake the Mandela Effect Test HOME - Test Mandela EffectAaron J. French on Soundcloud Aaron J. French | Free Listening on SoundCloudAaron J. French Author Page Facebook Aaron J. French | FacebookTheme Music: Daniel P. SheaOther Music: Stephanie Shea

In Part 1, Aaron and I bring everyone up to speed on what the Mandela Effect (ME) is, where it comes from, and why it is an important area of research for the study of esotericism. We discuss examples of ME, found with book titles (Berenstein/Berenstain Bears), pop culture references (what did Darth Vader actually say to Luke Skywalker?), and how all of this affects our notions of reality and of our memory. We also talk about how Christian elements have come to interact with more esoteric concepts found within the cultic milieu.PROGRAM NOTESAaron J. French, "The Mandela Effect and New Memory" (99+) (PDF) The Mandela Effect and New Memory | Aaron French - Academia.edu"'The Mandela Effect' is the perfect film for our age of distrust and doubt" in The Conversation  'The Mandela Effect' is the perfect film for our age of distrust and doubt (theconversation.comErik Davis, High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies  High Weirdness | The MIT PressMicheal Barkun, A Culture of Conspiracy: Apocalyptic Visions in Contemporary America  A Culture of Conspiracy by Michael Barkun - Paperback - University of California Press (ucpress.edu)Karen M. Douglas et al., "The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories" The Psychology of Conspiracy Theories (sagepub.com)Jan-Willem van Prooijen & Mark van Vugt, "Conspiracy Theories: Evolved Functions and Psychological Mechanisms" Conspiracy Theories: Evolved Functions and Psychological Mechanisms (sagepub.com)Matthew Dillon, "The Heretical Library: The Nag Hammadi in American Religion and Culture" The Heretical Revival: The Nag Hammadi Library in American Religion and Culture (rice.edu)Trailer Steins;Gate Steins;Gate | Anime Trailer [HD] | 2011 - YouTubeWiki fanpage Steins;Gate Steins;Gate Wiki | FandomTake the Mandela Effect Test HOME - Test Mandela EffectAaron J. French on Soundcloud Aaron J. French | Free Listening on SoundCloudAaron J. French Author Page Facebook Aaron J. French | FacebookTheme Music: Daniel P. SheaOther Music: Stephanie SheaThumbnail image credit: www.gaia.com 

In Part 2, Christian discusses the influential Discordian trilogy of books called "Illuminatus!" and we make a little sidestep into discussion about how 'Bill and Ted' may or may not fit into the picture as we move throughout the 80s and 90s. We also talk about Discordianism's links to science fiction and fanzines, and Christian starts interviewing me at a certain point due to the topic of Furries that comes up in our conversation. We then discuss how Discordianism became a type of cyberculture and how hacking relates to it. Christian shares his ideas about the scholarly side of researching this group, and why 'being in conversation in a spirit of generosity' is important for researchers. PROGRAM NOTESAcademia.edu website Christian Greer: (99+) J. Christian Greer | Harvard Divinity School - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) Discordianism | J. Christian Greer - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) Church of the SubGenius | J. Christian Greer - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) "Discordians Stick Apart" : The Institutional Turn within Contemporary Discordianism | J. Christian Greer - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) Religion Can't be a Joke, Right? | J. Christian Greer - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) [book review] Carole M. Cusack. Invented Religions: Imagination, Fiction and Faith. | J. Christian Greer - Academia.eduCarole Cusack, Invented Religions: Imagination, Fiction and Faith: Invented Religions: Imagination, Fiction and Faith: Cusack, Carole M: Amazon.nlErik Davis, High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies: High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies (The MIT Press): Davis, Erik: 9781907222870: Amazon.com: BooksMichael Barkun, A Culture of Conspiracy: Apocalyptic Visions in Contemporary America: A Culture of Conspiracy: Apocalyptic Visions in Contemporary America (Volume 15) (Comparative Studies in Religion and Society): Barkun, Michael: 9780520276826: Amazon.com: BooksDavid Chidester, Authentic Fakes: Religion and American Popular Culture: Amazon.com: Authentic Fakes: Religion and American Popular Culture (9780520242807): Chidester, David: BooksJohan Huizinga, Homo Ludens: A Study of the Play Element in Culture Homo Ludens: A Study of the Play-Element in Culture: Huizinga, Johan: 9781621389996: Amazon.com: BooksMikhail Baktin, Rabelais and His World : Rabelais and His World: Bakhtin, Mikhail: Amazon.nlAldous Huxley, The Doors of Perception: The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell: Huxley, Aldous: Amazon.com: BooksAdam Gorightly, Historia Discordia: Historia Discordia: the origins of the discordian society: Gorightly, Adam: Amazon.nlHistoria Disordia website: Historia Discordia – Documenting the Origins, History, and Chaos of the Discordian SocietyPrincipia Discordia (online source): Principia Discordia | the book of Chaos, Discord and Confusion | Fnord!Gnosis Magazine (online): Gnosis MagazineRobert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminatus Trilogy: The Illuminatus! Trilogy: The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden Apple, Leviathan: Robert Shea, Robert Anton Wilson: 9780440539810: Amazon.com: BooksTom Wolfe, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test: The Electric Kool - Aid Acid Test: Tom Wolfe: 9780552993661: Amazon.com: BooksAdam Curtis article: Adam Curtis Explains It All | The New YorkerAdam Curtis, "Can't Get You Out of My Head" - YouTube: Can't Get You Out of My Head (2021) - YouTubeDr. Christian Greer's Instagram Page: JCG (@angelheadedhipstersarchive) • Instagram-foto's en -video's'Visions of the Occult' Summer School Online Course Information: Summer course: Visions of the Occult - Introduction to Western Esotericism - History of Hermetic Philosophy (amsterdamhermetica.nl)Podcast Theme: Daniel P. SheaOther Music: Stephanie Shea

In Part 1, Christian will go into the history of the concept of laughter found in American religion/spirituality, as well as talking about the term 'psychedelicism' and the ways that psychedelics were viewed with regard to spiritual growth. We then get into the Discordians, their history, their ideas about chaos and hoaxes, and how Lee Harvey Oswald fits into the picture.PROGRAM NOTESAcademia.edu website Christian Greer: (99+) J. Christian Greer | Harvard Divinity School - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) Discordianism | J. Christian Greer - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) Church of the SubGenius | J. Christian Greer - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) "Discordians Stick Apart" : The Institutional Turn within Contemporary Discordianism | J. Christian Greer - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) Religion Can't be a Joke, Right? | J. Christian Greer - Academia.edu(99+) (PDF) [book review] Carole M. Cusack. Invented Religions: Imagination, Fiction and Faith. | J. Christian Greer - Academia.eduCarole Cusack, Invented Religions: Imagination, Fiction and Faith: Invented Religions: Imagination, Fiction and Faith: Cusack, Carole M: Amazon.nlErik Davis, High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies: High Weirdness: Drugs, Esoterica, and Visionary Experience in the Seventies (The MIT Press): Davis, Erik: 9781907222870: Amazon.com: BooksMichael Barkun, A Culture of Conspiracy: Apocalyptic Visions in Contemporary America: A Culture of Conspiracy: Apocalyptic Visions in Contemporary America (Volume 15) (Comparative Studies in Religion and Society): Barkun, Michael: 9780520276826: Amazon.com: BooksDavid Chidester, Authentic Fakes: Religion and American Popular Culture: Amazon.com: Authentic Fakes: Religion and American Popular Culture (9780520242807): Chidester, David: BooksJohan Huizinga, Homo Ludens: A Study of the Play Element in Culture Homo Ludens: A Study of the Play-Element in Culture: Huizinga, Johan: 9781621389996: Amazon.com: BooksMikhail Baktin, Rabelais and His World : Rabelais and His World: Bakhtin, Mikhail: Amazon.nlAldous Huxley, The Doors of Perception: The Doors of Perception and Heaven and Hell: Huxley, Aldous: Amazon.com: BooksAdam Gorightly, Historia Discordia: Historia Discordia: the origins of the discordian society: Gorightly, Adam: Amazon.nlHistoria Disordia website: Historia Discordia – Documenting the Origins, History, and Chaos of the Discordian SocietyPrincipia Discordia (online source): Principia Discordia | the book of Chaos, Discord and Confusion | Fnord!Gnosis Magazine (online): Gnosis MagazineRobert Shea & Robert Anton Wilson, The Illuminatus Trilogy: The Illuminatus! Trilogy: The Eye in the Pyramid, The Golden Apple, Leviathan: Robert Shea, Robert Anton Wilson: 9780440539810: Amazon.com: BooksTom Wolfe, The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test: The Electric Kool - Aid Acid Test: Tom Wolfe: 9780552993661: Amazon.com: BooksAdam Curtis article: Adam Curtis Explains It All | The New YorkerAdam Curtis, "Can't Get You Out of My Head" - YouTube: Can't Get You Out of My Head (2021) - YouTubeDr. Christian Greer's Instagram Page: JCG (@angelheadedhipstersarchive) • Instagram-foto's en -video's'Visions of the Occult' Summer School Online Course Information: Summer course: Visions of the Occult - Introduction to Western Esotericism - History of Hermetic Philosophy (amsterdamhermetica.nl)Podcast Theme: Daniel P. SheaOther Music: Stephanie Shea

In Part 2, we jump right back into the 'dangerous' and terryifying aspects of contemplating 'the Other,' and this leads to discussing gateways that allow entitites to come through (does this account for accounts of high strangeness)? Thomas notes how Crowley's writings seem to contradict the notion that there is an 'Other,' as there is no duality in Crowley's thought. This leads into a brief discussion about the entities that one may encounter in anomalous events (for example, tulpas)- are these subjective or objective? The latter part of the conversation centers on scholarly approaches to all of this, our appreciation for Hellier as a powerful occultural product, and whether or not scholars could perhaps lend any insights to reseachers as they conduct their own fieldwork. EPISODE NOTES:Rudolph Otto and The Numinous: (99+) (PDF) Rudolf Otto and the Concept of the Numinous | Stuart Ray Sarbacker - Academia.eduHenri Corbin and the Mundus Imaginalis: MUNDUS IMAGINALIS OR THE IMAGINARY AND THE IMAGINAL (bahaistudies.net)Bergson-Deleuze Encounters: Bergson-Deleuze Encounters: Transcendental Experience and the Thought of the Virtual: Moulard-Leonard, Valentine: Amazon.nlKenneth Grant and the Mauve Zone: Beyond the Mauve Zone: Grant, Kenneth: 9780952782452: Amazon.com: BooksJeff Kripal & Whitley Strieber's The Super Natural: The Super Natural: A New Vision of the Unexplained: Strieber, Whitley, Kripal, Jeffrey J.: 9781101982327: Amazon.com: BooksOtto and 'the numinous: pp. 45-46Myers and ‘the imaginal’: pp. 120-123Allen Greenfield & The Secret Cipher: The Complete SECRET CIPHER Of the UfOnauts: Greenfield, Allen H., Phillips, Olav: 9781718645356: Amazon.com: BooksRegarding Tulpas: [PDF] Tracking the Tulpa | Semantic Scholar(99+) (PDF) On Tulpas - An Analysis of Imagined Others | Arthur Juliani - Academia.eduDiego Escolar: Boundaries of Anthropology: Empirics and Ontological Relativism in a Field Experience with Anomalous Luminous Entities in Argentina - ESCOLAR - 2012 - Anthropology and Humanism - Wiley Online LibraryRick Strassman & DMT: Rick Strassman MD – DMT: The Spirit MoleculeRobert Cabrales & ‘Occultural Accelerationism’:(99+) (PDF) Aesthetaphysicks and the Anti-Dialectical Hyperoccultation of Disenchanted Representation: Hyperstitional Esoterrorism as Occultural Accelerationism | Robert Elio Cabrales - Academia.eduHellier Documentary: Hellier: A Planet Weird Original SeriesPenny Royal Podcast: Penny Royal Podcast – A New Podcast of Magic, Mystery and High Strangeness On The Penny Royal Plateau.Episode Art: Stefan KellerPodcast Theme: Daniel P. SheaOther Music: Stephanie Shea

Part 1 of our roundtable discussion starts out with trying to tackle some major philosophical questions, such as the nature of "the Other", and how we can view reality. We then delve into the Star Sapphire or Blue Star Ritual that was brought up in the Hellier documentary - what it is, why would it be important for the team, what it's possible purpose may be, etc., and end this first part with a discussion about chaos magick and why this may be interesting area of exploration for the Hellier team. EPISODE NOTES:Rudolph Otto and The Numinous: (99+) (PDF) Rudolf Otto and the Concept of the Numinous | Stuart Ray Sarbacker - Academia.eduHenri Corbin and the Mundus Imaginalis: MUNDUS IMAGINALIS OR THE IMAGINARY AND THE IMAGINAL (bahaistudies.net)Bergson-Deleuze Encounters: Bergson-Deleuze Encounters: Transcendental Experience and the Thought of the Virtual: Moulard-Leonard, Valentine: Amazon.nlKenneth Grant and the Mauve Zone: Beyond the Mauve Zone: Grant, Kenneth: 9780952782452: Amazon.com: BooksJeff Kripal & Whitley Strieber's The Super Natural: The Super Natural: A New Vision of the Unexplained: Strieber, Whitley, Kripal, Jeffrey J.: 9781101982327: Amazon.com: BooksOtto and 'the numinous: pp. 45-46Myers and ‘the imaginal’: pp. 120-123Allen Greenfield & The Secret Cipher: The Complete SECRET CIPHER Of the UfOnauts: Greenfield, Allen H., Phillips, Olav: 9781718645356: Amazon.com: BooksRegarding Tulpas: [PDF] Tracking the Tulpa | Semantic Scholar(99+) (PDF) On Tulpas - An Analysis of Imagined Others | Arthur Juliani - Academia.eduDiego Escolar: Boundaries of Anthropology: Empirics and Ontological Relativism in a Field Experience with Anomalous Luminous Entities in Argentina - ESCOLAR - 2012 - Anthropology and Humanism - Wiley Online LibraryRick Strassman & DMT: Rick Strassman MD – DMT: The Spirit MoleculeRobert Cabrales & ‘Occultural Accelerationism’:(99+) (PDF) Aesthetaphysicks and the Anti-Dialectical Hyperoccultation of Disenchanted Representation: Hyperstitional Esoterrorism as Occultural Accelerationism | Robert Elio Cabrales - Academia.eduHellier Documentary: Hellier: A Planet Weird Original SeriesPenny Royal Podcast: Penny Royal Podcast – A New Podcast of Magic, Mystery and High Strangeness On The Penny Royal Plateau.Episode Art: Stefan KellerPodcast Theme: Daniel P. SheaOther Music: Stephanie Shea