
The Kyle Thiermann Show
Conversations with intellectual athletes and athletic intellectuals. If you're new here, try starting with #96 Albee Layer, #139 Matt Taibbi, #157 Peter Attia, #206 Chris Ryan, #216 Rick Hanson, #233 Steve Rinella, or #340 Mark Healey.
Kyle Thiermann is a journalist, copywriter, and sponsored surfer for Patagonia. His work spans from editorial (Men's Health, Surfer, Outside) to creative (Patagonia, Yeti, MUD\WTR). He has written billboards above LAX, viral commercials seen by over a hundred million people, and steered better-for-you brands to cultural relevance with breakthrough advertising ideas. Kyle is represented by DiFiore Literary Agency and is in the process of publishing his first book. thiermann.substack.com
Latest episodes

May 18, 2022 • 1h 33min
#288 Spirituality: Dealing with Matters of Ultimate Concern - Chris Keener
Chris Keener heads up the burgeoning film and video mouthpiece within MUD\WTR known as MUD\FILMS. As founder and principal of two production companies - Goldenbear and Goodfight Media - he oversaw content for outlets like National Geographic, Discovery Channel, ESPN, and the Travel Channel. Recently he directed and EP'd the 5-part docuseries ‘We Speak Dance’ for Netflix, and helmed an episode of the Webby award winning ‘Conflict’, for Netflix and The Atlantic. As the creator of Goldenair Breathwork and the Lixir app, Chris facilitates transformative experiences by connecting people to the power of their breath. He conducts workshops for clients like Salesforce, Soho house, Alo Yoga, and Penn University, while also working in prisons and with the underserved. He co-created and voiced the Lixir app, the first to focus on long-format guided breathwork. Follow Chris on InstagramIf you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 1h 58min
#287 Outdoor Gear that Works & My First Colorado Hunt - Kevin Grunewald
Kevin Grunewald (kjgrunewald@gmail.com) is a Colorado-based conservationist, hunter, and angler. His winding career path in conservation biology has seen him teaching students how to trap bats in the outback of Australia, guiding clients to experience bear country in Alaska, dissecting Zebrafish embryos in a university laboratory in Wisconsin, and, most recently, conducting and sharing the benefits of sound, ecological land stewardship practices on nature preserves in California and Colorado. In his current role as a Land Steward with The Nature Conservancy, Kevin works and lives at a remote field station and nature preserve called Phantom Canyon. He spends his days working in, exploring, and sharing the wonder of the natural landscapes that he aspires to conserve.If you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 59min
#286 Trouble Sleeping? Get Some Sun - Mariana Figueiro, Ph.D.
Mariana G. Figueiro, Ph.D., is Director of the Lighting Research Center (LRC) and Professor of Architecture at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. Dr. Figueiro is well known for her research on the effects of light on human health, circadian photobiology, and lighting for older adults. Her research is regularly featured in national media including The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, and Scientific American. Dr. Figueiro has also brought attention to the significance of light and health as a topic of public interest through her TEDMED talk.Contact Dr. FigueiroIf you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 1h 9min
#285 Paddling Molokai, Couples Sailing, & Bow Hunting Elk - Jesse & Leane Horton
Jesse Horton is a sculptor. Raised in Bermuda and Colorado, he now spends time with his wife between Hawaii and Colorado. Having also worked as a submarine pilot, sailboat captain, bow hunting guide, builder and film maker he has had the opportunity to bring all of this life experience into his art. Leane Horton is an ex-collegiate swimmer and former 5x Molokai prone paddleboard competitor. She has represented Team Hawaii three years in a row for the ISA World Paddleboard Championships and was the first to medal for Team Hawaii in Mexico in 2015. Paddler turned sailor, she and Jesse sailed their boat from Mexico to French Polynesia. Follow Jesse on InstagramFollow Leanne on InstagramIf you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 1h 44min
#284 MUD\WTR, Fundraising & The Evil Weed Gummy - Shane Heath
Shane Heath is the Founder & CEO of the coffee alternative MUD\WTR. You can follow him on Instagram @somanypossibilitiesIf you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 1h 31min
#283 Hunting, Death, & Taking Notes - Steve Rinella (Repost)
Steve Rinella (@SteveRinella) is the host of the Netflix Original series MeatEater and The MeatEater Podcast. He's also the author of six books dealing with wildlife, hunting, fishing and wild game cooking, including the bestselling MeatEater Fish and Game Cookbook: Recipes and Techniques for Every Hunter and Angler.If you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 1h 18min
#282 Ido Portal Method & Healing Yourself With Movement - Leela Kallow & Dean Yerushalmy
Leela Kalow and Dean Yerushalmy are the only two people in Santa Cruz, California teaching classes based on the work and philosophies of Ido Portal under his direct guidance in his Mentorship Program. Their practice connects elements from several fields and disciplines such as in sports, dance, martial arts, yoga and parkour. The focus is to foster deep exploration and discovery in each individual no matter their skill level and to encourage an open-mind and play. Leela and Dean’s varied backgrounds in sports and dance is what led them organically to study with Ido.Follow Santa Cruz Movement on Instagramwww.santacruzmovement.comIf you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 1h 30min
#281 Addiction and Athleticism - Lindsay Locke
Lindsey Locke has worked in the health and wellness space for the better part of the last decade. Starting as an athlete herself, Lindsey understood the importance of movement and the somatic experience from a young age.With her Masters in Holistic Counseling Psychology from John F Kennedy university, Lindsey aims to help clients return to their bodies and health through movement, breath, and embracing one’s physical, spiritual, and emotional body in conversation and decision making. Through fitness and counseling, Lindsey has helped those that have abandoned their health (either through trauma, lifestyle choices, or addiction) get back into their bodies and begin to heal from the inside out.Our bodies have a deep knowing, all we need is the tools to listen. Follow Lindsey on InstagramIf you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 1h 43min
#280 Plastic Pollution, Great White Sharks, & Sculpture Art - Ethan Estess
Ethan Estess is a Californian artist, surfer, and marine scientist who communicates about the challenges facing the ocean through sculpture. He holds M.S. and B.S. degrees in environmental science from Stanford University where he studied oceanography, mechanical engineering, and studio art. His artworks have been exhibited in the United States, Europe, and Japan at venues including the World Economic Forum and the San Francisco International airport, and he has created large installations for the Getty and Bishop Museums. Estess operates a studio and gallery in his hometown of Santa Cruz while continuing to work with the Monterey Bay Aquarium studying bluefin tuna ecology. Most recently, he has created a series of monumental wave sculptures from marine debris that have reached hundreds of thousands of in-person participants and millions of online viewers with a message of ocean stewardship.Follow Ethan on Instagram Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe

May 18, 2022 • 1h 37min
#279 Psychedelic Selves - Jim Fadiman
Dr. Jim Fadiman is considered America's wisest and most respected authority on psychedelics and their use. In 1974 he co-founded the Institute for Transpersonal Psychology, and has since continued to explore potential medical and creative uses of psychedelic drugs. In his most recent book, The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide: Safe, Therapeutic and Sacred Journeys (2011), he provides insight into safe and correct uses of psychedelic drugs. The book was inspired by his unique knowledge of psychedelic experiences and his desire to explain beneficial uses of those substances. He received his B.A. from Harvard University in Social Relations in 1960, and his M.A. and Ph.D from Stanford University in Psychology in 1962 and 1965, respectively.Buy Your Symphony of SelvesIf you dig this podcast, would you be please leave a short review on Apple Podcasts? It’s takes less than 60 seconds and makes a difference when I drop to my knees and beg hard-to-get guests to come on the show. All of my stuff is on Thiermann.substack.comConnect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeBrought to you by Santa Cruz Medicinals and RPM Training.RPM Training is a Norcal based active lifestyle brand founded on the idea that legit, purposeful functional training is the foundation of a truly full, adventurous life. I love their workout equipment and use it daily. Use the code KYLETMAN at checkout and get 10% off any order. Santa Cruz Medicinals CBD has supported this podcast from day one. Their founder actually convinced me to start the podcast! They make a range of potent CBD products and my personal favorite is the Peppermint Tincture, which I use most nights before before I go to bed. Use the code KYLE10 at checkout, and get 10% off any order. Sore muscles, be gone!Connect with me on Instagram | Twitter | YouTubeSend voice memos to: info@kyle.surf Get full access to Kyle Thiermann at thiermann.substack.com/subscribe