Until Saturday: A show about college football

The Athletic
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Mar 26, 2024 • 1h 18min

Which Big 12 team will win a national title first & do they even stand a chance?

In an era of college football where the ground is unsettled, save for the growing chasm between the SEC, Big Ten and everyone else, Sam, David, and Mitch try to answer this: Which Big 12 team will win a CFP national championship first? The trio divvy up the teams into tiers based on their ability to win a championship. But, is there really hope for a member of the conference to hang a CFP banner amid so much change?Vote for the best CFB stadium in Until Saturday's bracket challenge:https://theathletic.com/tag/until-saturday/Time stamps:- What are the odds a Big 12 team will win a title? (3:30)- The conference with the most parity? (7:30)- Tier 1 (12:45)- Tier 2 (41:15)- Tier 3 (58:00)- The future of the conference (1:11:45)Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 21, 2024 • 1h 2min

Clemson wants out | Nebraska moved FAST + Raiola hype | Players we're most excited to watch

Clemson joins the ACC lawsuit dog pile, but will their opening salvo end in them leaving the conference? Ari, Chris, and Sam discuss that as well as the disparity in CFP revenue that's solidified the ACC's standing among the power conferences. Speaking of leaving, Kadyn Proctor bounced out of Iowa after two months. What does his departure mean for the Hawkeyes? Is a return to Tuscaloosa next up? The guys then share who they're most excited to watch next season. Mitch Sherman, The Athletic's Nebraska beat writer, breaks down Nebraska's rapid-fire hires of AD Troy Dannen and president Jeff Gold on Wednesday. He also watched Dylan Raiola throw at the Huskers' Pro Day - fire up the hype train.Vote for the best CFB stadium in Until Saturday's bracket challenge:https://theathletic.com/tag/until-saturday/Time stamps:- Clemson sues the ACC (2:00)- Kadyn Proctor leaving Iowa (14:00)- Most exciting players to watch (20:00)- Nebraska's new AD, president + Raiola throws at pro day (38:30)- Until Saturday bracket challenge: Rd of 32 results - Go Vote! (57:15)Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 19, 2024 • 1h 14min

Inside Kansas' rebuild with Lance Leipold & which programs could learn from it?

The University of Kansas football program reached its zenith in 2007 after recording its first 12-win season and an Orange Bowl win. However, that 2007 season would mark the last time KU football would win at least nine games for nearly two decades. In a 17-year drought that included two WINLESS seasons, five head coaching changes, and a fanbase who had been teased with promises of improvement - finally found it in head coach Lance Leipold, who guided the Jayhawks to nine wins last year. How did the 59-year-old head coach, who didn't earn his first HC gig until his 40s, take a program that had zero wins in 2020 to a top-25 finish in 2023? Coach Leipold explains. Later, Ari and Max Olson discuss the latter's story about this program builder. They also identify which teams from across the country could learn from Leipold's lessons.Read Max's story:https://theathletic.com/5318871/2024/03/07/lance-leipold-kansas-football-coach-career/Vote Until Saturday's 'Best CFB Stadium' Bracket Challenge!:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc_sREhl3ijSqHEQbdYL72lYXmP7draMSuHh0OgogWOz5WQkw/viewformTime stamps:- What was Kansas before Leipold? (1:30)- Lance Leipold joins the show (4:15)- Why Lawrence? (9:30)- Internal lobbying; vision and building from within (13:00)- The right AD? (16:00)- Young up-and-coming coaching candidates vs experienced HC at lower levels (18:00)- Success opening the door for other coaches at non-D-1 schools? (21:00)- Navigating the new era of roster construction (23:00)- Picking the a career you love (27:30)- What advice would you give to a coach that going through what you went through? (30:15)- Rebuilding vs restoring and selling (32:45)- What programs are in the position Kansas was in/who could learn from Leipold? (42:00)- Introducing Until Saturday's 'Best CFB Stadium' Bracket Challenge! w/ Jayna Bardahl (1:06:30)Call/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 15, 2024 • 1h 14min

CFB heels and heroes | CFP dysfunction + Saban and structure | Georgia, Missouri check-ins

Which college football coaches are heels and which are considered heroes? Ari, Stew Mandel and Seth Emerson list the villains and most influential and candid voices in the sport with the absence of Nick Saban. Speaking of Saban, he spoke openly about NIL and the state of CFB. What was he right and off about? The CFP is close to ratifying its deal with ESPN after months of negotiating; however, the organization continues to demonstrate dysfunction. Before dipping out, Seth gives us a 30,000 ft. view of Georgia in 2024, along with Missouri, who may be a top-3 team in the SEC next year.Time stamps:- Playoff model, lack of leadership + dysfunction (2:45)- Nick Saban goes to Washington in a hit-and-miss day (15:00)- NIL donor fatigue (25:15)- CFB heels and heroes (34:30)- UGA check in (1:02:30)- Missouri + Penn St. check-in (1:07:15)Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturdayCall/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 12, 2024 • 1h 25min

Notre Dame, Arkansas + State of Florida spring check-ins | Will Alabama revert to pre-Saban? | Plot holes in sports movies

With many teams kicking off their spring practices, Ari, David, and Manny whip around the country to check in on programs! Using sounds from practices, the guys launch into discussions about Notre Dame, Arkansas, Alabama, Florida, Miami, Florida State and more! Can Mike Denbrock guide the Irish and Riley Leonard to the next level? Is Bobby Petrino the life raft Sam Pittman really needs? Will the Tide revert to pre-Saban status? Mario Cristobal and Billy Napier are in prove-it years. Later, the trio react to Yahoo's Ross Dellenger's reports about the SEC and Big Ten wanting exclusive first-round byes and the lion's share of CFP revenue dollars. Lastly, David pokes holes in sports movies' plots.Time stamps:- Mike Denbrock and Riley Leonard at Notre Dame (4:45)- Sam Pittman on Bobby Petrino + Arkansas (19:00)- Alabama's defense under Womack + a return to pre-Saban Bama? (31:00)- Miami and Mario Cristobal in '24 (44:15)- Can DJ Lagway save Napier, Florida? (56:00)- UCF/USF (1:03:00)- FSU + DJ U in Alex Atkins' offense (1:06:00)- Big Ten + SEC want the bag & byes (1:09:45)- Plot holes in sports movies (1:17:00)Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturdayCall/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 8, 2024 • 1h 8min

Next steps in athlete employment | Spring storylines: LSU, Michigan + more | Fan, donor fatigue

Dartmouth MBB voted to unionize on Tuesday, but what does it mean for collegiate athletics? Nicole and Chris share in a long conversation about the next steps in athlete employment. Spring practices are already here! What are some of the storylines you need to know? From Baton Rouge to Ann Arbor, Nicole and Chris have some for you to consider. Later, the two exchange thoughts on Arch Manning opting out of NCAA FB 25; the new Early Signing Day; and more. Plus, our Seth Emerson wrote a story about donor fatigue in the sport, and why hasn't the ACC jumped to ratify the 14-team model?Fill out our survey for a chance to win a $100 Amazon gift card: theathletic.com/survey24Time stamps:- Future of athlete employment (3:30)- Possible ripple effects from Dartmouth unionization (10:00)- Spring storylines: OSU, Mich, Alabama, USC, LSU (18:00)- Early Signing Day + Arch Manning (34:00)- Helmet comms, rule changes (47:00)- Mailbag (50:30)Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturdayCall/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 5, 2024 • 1h 34min

FASCINATING teams in 2024 + Fran Brown chats Syracuse | New team expectations in a 14-team CFP

Who are some of the most fascinating programs going into 2024? Ari, David, and Max each nominate two teams for this season. Later, new Syracuse head coach Fran Brown dicusses his mindset and the Orange's recruiting strategy in an interview with Ari. Which programs does the trio believe will have recalibrated expectations in a 14-team postseason? Lastly, Combine absurdity, helmet comms and 2-min warnings, and Dartmouth's union vote.Fill out our survey for a chance to win a $100 Amazon gift card: theathletic.com/survey24Time stamps:- Dune (the comic book?) and french toast casserole (1:45)- Fascinating teams: Oregon (7:00)- Ole Miss and Miami (19:30)- Nebraska (36:45)- Texas A&M and Alabama (43:00)- Syracuse + Fran Brown interview (45:15)- New team expectations in a 14-team field (1:00:00)- Combine, new rules proposals (1:12:00)Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturdayCall/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Mar 1, 2024 • 1h 9min

The 14-team playoff train needs to slow down | Can Penn State, Clemson bounce back? | UMass + Future of independents

Nicole, Audrey Snyder and Grace Raynor, the latter two are The Athletic's Penn State beat writer and recruiting expert, respectively, dig into reports about a 14-team playoff model that is being discussed. Is the 3-3-2-2-1 structure fair for the ACC and Big 12? Do the Big Ten and SEC deserve additional AQs? Is the committee moving too fast on this? Are Penn State and Clemson candidates to bounce back in 2024? Plus, thoughts on Texas A&M and Miami. Later, the trio discuss the hot button topic of court storming. What are some realistic solutions? Lastly, thoughts on moving Early Signing Day and the future of Notre Dame and independents.Time stamps:- 14-team model (1:30)- Is finishing 3rd incentivized? (14:30)- Bounce-back teams; Penn St. (16:00)- Clemson (22:30)- Texas A&M (32:00)- Miami (36:45)- Court storming fixes (41:30)- Early Signing Day - does moving it to early Dec. solve the issues? (54:00)- UMass, future of independents & hard non-cons (1:00:00)Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturdayCall/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Feb 27, 2024 • 1h 26min

Welcome to pay for play | Coach Prime, Colorado year 2 | The Take Tank

The trio of Ari, David, and Sam react to Tennessee and Virginia being granted a preliminary injunction against the NCAA, which prohibits the organization from enforcing its pay-for-play recruiting rules. The era of pay for play is here, but for how long? Will athletes become employees before long? Colorado has undergone some drastic changes this off-season. Will Deion Sanders' new staff and portal players lift the Buffaloes to a conference championship berth? Sam shares what he learned from anonymous high school coaches in the Houston area about which programs perform the best in the area. Plus, does moving up Early Signing Day actually help? Later, the group enters the Take Tank before having a candid discussion about how to broach NCAA Football 25 with your significant other. Oh, and we made some dumb, mock cover art.Time stamps:- Welcome to pay for play (2:00)- Colorado year 2 under Deion (12:00)- Who are the Kings of Houston? (26:00)- Is moving Early Signing Day up a cure-all? (40:00)- Enter the Take Tank: CFB Premiere League, UCLA is fascinating, why was Kalen DeBoer hired so quickly? (49:30)- A frank conversation about discussing NCAA Football 25 w/ your s/o (1:12:00)Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturdayCall/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Feb 23, 2024 • 1h 2min

More Playoff expansion?! + 5+7 model winners/losers | Kalen DeBoer's staff | EA Sports, they're in the game

Nicole, Chris, and Max react to the CFP adopting a 5+7 model. Who are the biggest beneficiaries of this structure? The Playoff might be expanding again?! Would a 14 or 16-team field be more detrimental to the sport than helpful? EA Sports' big announcement. Kennington Smith III then joins the podcast to chat about Kalen DeBoer rounding out his staff. What can fans expect from the Tide's new coaches? Plus, Max shares some transfer portal names to keep an eye on as we inch closer to Spring practices.Rundown:-5+7 model + winners/losers (2:30)-A 14 or 16-team playoff?! (9:15)-How might a 14 or 16-team field work? (15:00)-EA Sports, they're in the game (25:30)-Alabama's staff with Kenny (35:15)-Nick Sheridan question mark (40:45)-Keon Sabb transfers to Bama (48:30)-Championship or bust in year one under DeBoer? (54:00)-Spring portal names (59:00)Subscribe to the Until Saturday newletter: https://theathletic.com/newsletters/until-saturdayCall/text the Until Saturday phone and leave us a question for a future mailbag and/or Sunday Sound-Off podcast: (316) 462-9852Subscribe to Until Saturday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbhfrD1COvG40Mk7vvgaHIQ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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