

Messiah Matters
Messiah Matters
Messiah Matters is the premier theological YouTube show and podcast that approaches biblical topics from a pronomian (pro-law) view. Hosts Rob Vanhoff and Caleb Hegg approach the biblical text with the understanding that God’s law is the standard for the Christian life and the backdrop for biblical interpretation.
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Jan 12, 2022 • 57min
Show #372 – The Term “Christianity”
In this episode, we discuss the wore “Christian,” “Judaism,” and “Messianic Judaism” and attempt to show how these terms have been used historically and how they now play out in our modern time.
0:00 Introduction
7:03 The term Christianity
25:50 Messianic Judaism
43:06 Is Messianic Judaism a denomination of Christianity
55:00 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley, Sue Lavey.
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Jan 5, 2022 • 59min
Show #371 – Let’s Talk About Law
In this episode, we discuss various aspects of the sacrificial system and look at what these things actually did. Were sins actually atoned for with sin sacrifices? Also, we look at the term “Pronomian” and how some people want to make this a “movement” even though it’s not.
0:00 Introduction
5:16 Pronomian Theology
8:51 Shouldn’t we identify with Judaism instead?
16:14 The Way or Christian
21:45 Chatroom conversation: Draw near to God
23:48 Preaching through the Tanak
31:46 The Sacrificial system and atonement
40:20 Is it a sin to not keep the law
43:33 The atonement for sin
47:21 The Temple space and how we get right with God
49:13 Is it possible to make a sacrifice and not have your sins atoned for
51:20 Dr Brown’s statements on how we keep the commandments
53:34 Commentary from the chatroom
55:17 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley, Sue Lavey.
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Dec 29, 2021 • 1h
Show #370 – What’s in a Name?
In this episode, we discuss the canonization of the Apostolic Scriptures (New Testament) and if this is even valid if the Jewish authorities didn’t approve it. This argument centers around the text in Romans 3:2. Then we turn to claims about the Sacred Name of God and how some have suggested the pronunciation should be.
0:00 Intro
2:04 Coldfish Podcast Overview
6:36 Our doctrine and name
11:23 Our 36 listeners
16:27 Melchizedek’s Priesthood
24:29 Is the NT scripture?
28:30 How is the Tetragrammaton pronounced?
38:16 Is the pronouncing it a disaster?
52:50 Chatroom discussions
53:50 The Biblical Calendar/The Majority Calendar
58:40 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley, Sue Lavey.
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Dec 22, 2021 • 1h 3min
Show #369 – What is Christianity (Christmas Special
In this episode, we discuss the term Christian and attempt to understand how this word is used in modern times. We also look at the Greek word meaning “forbidden” in the New Testament.
0:00 Intro
3:33 Christmas Discussion
12:18 Mike Jones
14:40 Does Christmas have pagan roots?
33:10 What is the definition of Christian?
46:20 Is Catholicism compatible with Biblical Christian theology
47:55 Venn diagraming Christians
50:25 Holy Spirit inspiration
52:46 The need for a right hermeneutic
1:00:09 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Dec 15, 2021 • 1h 2min
Show #368 – A Son Shall Not Pay…
In this episode, we discuss King David and the punishment given for his sin with Bathsheba. The we move to the Oneness Pentecostal movement and discuss how this group came into existence and some of the red flags that came with its birth.
0:00 Introduction
5:05 A son shall not pay for the sins of his father
22:25 Pentecostalism
59:41 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Dec 8, 2021 • 1h 2min
Show #367 – Theology Matters
In the first episode in season 9, we discuss the reason we continue to do this show and some of the thought that goes into our weekly prep. We also touch on the last supper and the reason bread and wine are present, then we move to a calendar question.
0:00 Introduction
5:25 Why I don’t wear a kippah
35:03 Communion vs Passover
42:46 Why continue to Season 9
57:40 James White Debate
1:00:17 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville, Kyle Ripley.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Dec 1, 2021 • 1h 3min
Show #366 – Unpopular Laws of god
In this episode, we discuss the sacrificial system and sin offerings, then we look at a question concerning Gentiles and the laws of God, and finally a quick look at the elements of the last supper.
0:00 Introduction
3:03 Discussion of the future Temple
12:53 The sin sacrifice as a purification offering
18:36 The sons of the priest
23:35 The sacrificial system in the millennial reign
35:58 Unclean food laws and how to get clean
37:34 The blood that makes atonement
45:10 Jewish vs Christian
48:53 Laws for Jews and Gentiles
52:33 Jewish vs Christian revisited
55:53 The Priesthood
59:06 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Nov 24, 2021 • 1h
Show #365 – Sacrifices in the Millennium?
In this episode, we go through a bunch of emails that tie up loose ends including, Heiser and two YHVH’s, where does it say that Judah the Prince wrote down the Mishnah? Is the breaking of bread and drinking the cup at the last supper due to it be erev shabbat? And will there be sacrifices in the millennium temple?
0:00 Introduction
10:02 Heiser Revisited (again)
36:29 Discussion on incest in Genesis
52:33 Sacrifices in the millennium
58:46 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Nov 10, 2021 • 1h 7min
Show #364 – Paul and Sacrifice
In this episode, we discuss Romans 14 and how this relates to food. Then we turn to Acts 21 and Paul going to the temple to offer sacrifice. Does Paul and the Apostles have two different views of sacrifice? How does this work with the idea that Christ is the sacrifice to end all sacrifices?
0:00 Introduction
6:00 Newly published commentaries
9:03 Romans 14 and eating kosher
29:12 Paul and the sacrifice
55:00 Addressing comments in the chatroom
1:05:12 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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Nov 3, 2021 • 1h 6min
Show #363 – CRT and the Church
In this episode, we discuss Israel becoming a state and whether this should be viewed as Israel coming out of exile. Then we look the Shmita year and how exactly Israel should calculate this. Then we turn to the topic of Critical Race Theory and “wokeness” in the Church.
0:00 Intro & Upcoming SBL discussion
20:39 The return from exile
32:55 Allowing the land to rest
49:18 CRT and the Church
1:04:50 Closing
Executive Producer: Lee & Vivian Eagan, Erna Draper, Bob & Larue Miller, Levi Mitchell, Kristina Johnson, Ruth Lunderville.
This show is produced by TorahResource – https://torahresource.com/
Find us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MessiahMatters
Rob Vanhoff
Rob teaches courses on 2nd Temple Period, Rabbinic Literature, Judaism, Koine Greek, and Aramaic. He has delivered papers at conferences for both Evangelical Theological Society and the Society of Biblical Literature. He serves at Heart of Messiah Ministries in Spokane Valley. Rob holds two degrees from the University of Washington: MA, Comparative Religion (2005) and BA, Near Eastern Languages & Civilization, with a minor in Music (2003).
Caleb Hegg is the co-founder of Growing in Messiah, a ministry dedicated to helping Christians live and understand their faith. Hegg is also the co-host of Messiah Matters, a weekly show that looks at theology and doctrine. Along with this, Hegg is a co-pastor at Alive in Messiah, a non-denominational Church in Tacoma, WA. Caleb has lectured at various conferences around the world, and written multiple published articles, most notably, several articles in “Celebrate the Feast” (TorahResource, 2019). Education: Caleb Hegg received a two-year certificate from TR-Institute. Caleb is currently enrolled at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in an M.Div program.
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