

Reality Therapy
Ryan Rogers
Reality Therapy is a podcast about how reality itself can be therapeutic. While I touch on a variety of topics with many interesting guests, I am primarily focused on the therapy profession. Most guests are therapists or graduate students who focus on observing and analyzing the influence of social justice ideology on this field.
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Oct 8, 2025 • 1h 2min
Christine Sefein on the Corruption of Counselor Education
In this episode of Reality Therapy, therapist and counselor educator Christine Sefein of Critical Therapy Antidote describes how the academic portion of counselor education was corrupted from her perspective as a professor on the inside.

Oct 7, 2025 • 1h 3min
Mark L. Ruffalo on Psychodynamic Psychotherapy and BPD
In this episode, therapist and social worker Mark L. Ruffalo describes his approach to psychodynamic therapy, especially dealing with borderline personality disorder. He discusses the research around these issues and better ways to treat such conditions. We discussed why men don't come to therapy and how the field became politicized.

Oct 4, 2025 • 1h 18min
AMHP with Kathleen and Phillip
In this episode of Reality Therapy, Kathleen Mills and Phillip Crum discuss their organization, the Association for Mental Health Professionals, and the upcoming conference for heterodox therapists and other professionals in the field.

Oct 4, 2025 • 1h 40min
Social Emotional Learning
In this episode of Reality Therapy, Katie Kernodle and Jonathan Cogburn explain and wrestle with the presence of social emotional learning in schools and whether this is useful for kids or part of a Marxist plot.

Sep 19, 2025 • 60min
Pamela Garfield Jaeger Responds to the Charlie Kirk Assassination
In this episode of Reality Therapy, The Truthful Therapist Pamela Garfield Jaeger responds to the assassination of Charlie Kirk, including her role as a Turning Point USA ambassador.

Sep 19, 2025 • 1h 45min
Charlie Kirk Therapist Response Panel #3
In this episode of Reality Therapy, mental health professionals join together to discuss the Charlie Kirk tragedy, including Dr. Chelsea Smith, Brant Elwood, Karen King, Jonathan Cogburn, and Robin Atkins.

Sep 18, 2025 • 1h 39min
Charlie Kirk Tragedy Response Panel #2
In this special episode of Reality Therapy, a panel of mental health professionals respond to the recent murder of Charlie Kirk. Participants include: Tony Ziolko, Jake Wiskerchen, Katie Kernodle, Phillip Crum, Kathleen Mills, and Rachel Haack.

Sep 18, 2025 • 1h 40min
Charlie Kirk Tragedy Response Panel #1
In this special episode of Reality Therapy, a panel of mental health professionals respond to the recent murder of Charlie Kirk. Commentors include: Sara Stockton, Soad Tabrizi, Josh Slocum, Dr. DB Palmer, and Jake Freeman.

Sep 9, 2025 • 2h 1min
James Lindsay: Woke Left, Woke Right
In this episode of Reality Therapy, scholar, public intellectual, and master swordsman James Lindsay explains his role in the conservative movement to Ryan Rogers and Katie Kernodle, as well as how he has been ostracized for pointing out troubling elements that have been entering the MAGA movement. He points out the similarities and differences between the Woke Left and the Woke Right, noting how both are derived from forms of Marxism that obsess over identity. He discusses how wokeness has infiltrated the therapy and mental health professions, how people are falling into online cults, and how AI is causing psychosis in people who rely on it too much.

Aug 28, 2025 • 1h 8min
Wilfred Reilly on Debunking Bad Social Science
In this episode of Reality Therapy, social scientist Wilfred Reilly pulls no punches, exposing the bad ideas coming from the political left and the political right. He dismantles sloppy research that attempts to prove all of society is racist, why most people really don't need a therapist, and why we should pay more attention to existential threats.