
Data Center Revolution
The purpose of the Data Center Revolution Podcast is to create a meaningful connection with a sophisticated audience that is starved to learn more about the people leading innovation in our industry.
We invite you to join the DCR podcast, a long form conversation hosted by Kirk Offel, with some of the data center industry’s luminaries.
Every industry has "All Stars" and the data center industry is no different. Our goal with the Data Center Revolution podcast is to deep dive with these celebrities to uncover what inspires them to transform the data center industry.
Latest episodes

Jun 2, 2025 • 1h 47min
Ep 124: Ojonimi Bako Talks AI, Leadership, and the Evolution of Mission-Critical Talent
In today’s conversation, host Kirk Offel sits down with Ojonimi Bako, CEO and co-founder of Kaya AI, to dive deep into the intersection of technology, labor, and the rapidly-evolving construction and data center industries. Ojonimi shares his personal journey from Nigeria to the United States, building a unique perspective that blends tech innovation with hands-on construction experience.For more about us: https://linktr.ee/overwatchmissioncritical

May 19, 2025 • 1h 53min
Ep 123: Blaine Holt on China, AI, and National Security: Lessons from an Air Force Brigadier General
Today, we’re diving deep with Brigadier General (Ret.) Blaine Holt, also known as “Blaino,” for a no-holds-barred conversation that unpacks the intersection of national security, technology, and the future of AI. Whether you’re an industry veteran, aspiring leader, or just curious about what’s next for AI, national security, and technology, you’ll find major insights—and plenty of food for thought—in this episode.For more about us: https://linktr.ee/overwatchmissioncritical

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May 5, 2025 • 1h 50min
Ep 122: Derek Gaston on the Nuclear Future: Powering AI and Data Centers
Derek Gaston is the Chief Computational Scientist at Idaho National Laboratory and a senior advisor at the Department of Energy. He dives into the fascinating world of nuclear energy, explaining its potential to power AI and data centers. With engaging analogies, he demystifies nuclear fission and discusses the evolution of reactor designs, including small modular reactors. The conversation emphasizes the urgency of sustainable energy solutions amid rising AI demands. Gaston also explores the synergy between nuclear solutions and advanced technology for a sustainable future.

Apr 14, 2025 • 1h 43min
Ep 121: The Human Reset: Jennifer Reininger's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Jennifer Reininger, Director of Acquisitions for CleanArc Data Centers, returns to the DCR Podcast to sit down with Kirk and discusses how after she felt stuck in her career, embarked on a journey of self-improvement and growth. By seeking inspiration and guidance from her peers, she revitalized her path, focusing on continuous learning and personal development.For more about us: https://linktr.ee/overwatchmissioncritical

Apr 1, 2025 • 1h 53min
Ep 120: The Future of Renewable Energy in New Hampshire with Drew Biemer
Drew Biemer, Agency Director for Energy Facility Siting and Permitting for the State of New Hampshire, sits down with Kirk to talk about the pressing need for adaptations in the state’s energy landscape amid rising demands and transitioning from coal to renewables, the challenges of "astroturfing," and the impact of data centers on energy needs0:00 Introduction to Energy and Politics3:24 State-Level Energy Challenges7:34 The Complexities of Energy Opposition12:33 Understanding Astroturfing in Energy17:55 New Hampshire's Energy Landscape26:01 Future of Renewable Energy in New Hampshire33:41 Data Centers and Energy Demand44:34 Balancing Energy Goals and Community Needs54:42 New Hampshire's Energy Future and Exports56:17 Data Centers and Energy Improvements59:48 The Energy Demand Crisis1:04:26 Local Development and Energy Projects1:08:53 Energy Policy and National Security1:12:57 The Engineer's Fallacy in Energy Projects1:19:40 The Role of Community Engagement1:23:15 Merging Data Centers and Energy1:29:48 The Limits of Renewable Energy1:39:10 Understanding Regulatory Structures1:47:28 Skills for Future Opportunities in EnergyFor more about us: https://linktr.ee/overwatchmissioncritical

Mar 18, 2025 • 2h 3min
Ep 119: The Impact of Regulatory Changes on Renewable Energy Expansion with Eamon Perrel of Apex Clean Energy
The surging energy demands of data centers are transforming how power is sourced, managed, and delivered.We sit down with Eamon Perrel, Executive Vice President of Apex Clean Energy, to discuss power solutions for hyperscalers and data center operators. Eamon shares insights into the increasing role of wind and solar energy, the complexities of energy procurement, and the challenges of integrating renewables into the grid. We also explore the impact of regulatory hurdles, the emergence of microgrids, and how energy teams and data center teams are beginning to collaborate more closely than ever before.Key Takeaways:(06:12) Apex Clean Energy’s transition from utilities to serving tech companies.(21:23) The role of virtual power purchase agreements (VPPAs) in energy sourcing.(35:16) Hyperscalers and data center operators’ approach to power procurement.(43:13) The potential of microgrids for more sustainable energy solutions.(55:47) The impact of regulatory barriers and misinformation on renewable energy adoption.(01:15:37) The rise of self-generation as a viable option for data centers.(01:27:48) Land acquisition and permitting challenges that slow renewable projects.(01:51:19) Future trends in energy procurement and evolving market structures.Resources Mentioned:Eamon Perrelhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/eamon-perrel-a8b8695/Apex Clean Energy LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/apex-clean-energy/Apex Clean Energy Websitehttps://www.apexcleanenergy.com/Goldman Sachs report on energy demandhttps://www.goldmansachs.com/pdfs/insights/pages/generational-growth-ai-data-centers-and-the-coming-us-power-surge/report.pdfUS Department of Energyhttps://www.energy.gov/Thank you for listening to “Data Center Revolution.” Don’t forget to leave us a review and subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. To learn more about Overwatch, visit us at https://linktr.ee/overwatchmissioncritical #DataCenterIndustry #NuclearEnergy #FutureOfDataCenters #AI

Mar 4, 2025 • 1h 54min
Ep 118: The Evolution of Cloud Infrastructure and Its Challenges with Doug Mouton of Meta
Doug Mouton, former Senior Engineering Lead at Meta, shares his wealth of experience in data center design and construction. He discusses how military training fosters strong leadership and adaptability in tech roles. Doug highlights the significance of disaster preparedness learned from Hurricane Katrina and the industry's shift towards safety-first cultures. He also tackles the pressing energy challenges data centers face and the need for hybrid cooling solutions, while touching on ethical considerations in the rise of AI. A fascinating blend of personal anecdotes and industry insights!

Feb 17, 2025 • 1h 50min
Ep 117: The Shift Towards Microgrids with Pooya Kabiri
Kirk is joined by Pooya Kabiri, CEO of METIS Power, to discuss the increasing demand for efficient energy solutions in data centers, AI, microgrids, and the importance of collaboration.0:00 Introduction to METIS Power5:08 Power Generation Solutions17:59 The Growing Demand for Data Centers29:26 The Role of AI in Power Needs37:53 Understanding Microgrids50:51 The Future of Power and Microgrids54:45 Microgrid Demand and Utility Dynamics56:43 Reliability and Microgrid Solutions59:26 Competing with Utility Providers1:00:40 Temporary Power and Service Agreements1:01:29 Microgrid vs. Traditional Power Solutions1:04:55 The Role of UPS in Data Centers1:07:31 Philosophical Perspectives on Microgrid Reliability1:09:50 The Future of Microgrids in Data Centers1:11:51 Fuel Supply and Market Dynamics1:14:22 Addressing Demand Fluctuations1:17:27 Navigating Regulatory Challenges1:22:29 The Economics of Microgrid Operations1:27:19 Ideal Customers and Geographical Considerations1:31:11 Exploring Different Industry Applications1:34:12 Microgrid Size and Scalability1:39:05 The Future Landscape of Microgrids1:43:45 Demystifying Microgrid Capabilities1:48:36 Closing Thoughts and Industry ReflectionsFor more about us: https://linktr.ee/overwatchmissioncritical

Feb 3, 2025 • 1h 53min
Ep 116: Understanding Bourbon with Scotty Neil
Kirk sits down with Scotty Neil, president and co-founder of Horse Soldier Bourbon, to discuss his transition from a 17-year military career in Special Forces to entrepreneurship in distilling, how military training fosters teamwork and leadership in business, and the valuable contributions of veterans in entrepreneurship.0:00 Intro to the Journey
2:36 The Man Behind the Mic
5:10 Scotty's Military Background
8:17 Transitioning to Civilian Life
9:23 The Birth of Horse Soldier Bourbon
9:52 The Journey of Entrepreneurship
11:14 Understanding the Roots of Bourbon
13:14 The History of Whiskey Taxation
15:20 Lessons Learned in Special Operations
16:49 The Importance of Training Fundamentals
23:21 Bonds Forged in Service
25:16 Family Legacy and Military Heritage
29:03 The Impact of 9/11
55:45 Realities of the War on Terror
58:04 Proposals for Military Action
58:11 The Plan Against the Taliban
1:00:21 Hollywood and the Reality
1:05:15 The Script Dispute
1:07:21 Skills from Military Training
1:11:34 Creating a Nonprofit for Veterans
1:19:53 The Journey to the Distillery
1:24:55 Discovering Opportunities in Distillation
1:28:55 Crafting the Perfect Bourbon Bottle
1:43:24 Celebrating Brotherhood and Purpose
1:52:08 Reflections on the Army-Navy Game
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Jan 28, 2025 • 55min
DCAC LIVE 2024 with Andy Kirby, DPR Construction
Recorded with DCAC 2024, Kirk talks with Andy Kirby, DPR Construction, on the future of the construction industry.
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