
Winner Take All
Winner Take All is a business & tech news show covering the world of platform businesses, tech antitrust, regulations, and innovation. Hosted by Alex Moazed and Nick Johnson, authors of the Amazon Best-Seller Modern Monopolies.
Latest episodes

May 6, 2021 • 30min
Winner Take All #155 | Clubhouse Copy Cats, Ant Financial Valuation Plummets, Google + Univision
The episode opens with Alex discussing the Chinese government's recent antitrust crackdown on tech and the massive hit to valuation Ant Financial has taken as result. Next, a look at the plethora of Clubhouse copycats from big tech and a lesson to be learn from what Clubhouse got right and the 2015 viral app Meerkat got wrong. The show closes with discussion of Univision's new ill-advised partnership with Google.
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00:52- Chinese Antitrust Crackdown
05:48- Clubhouse Copycats
17:56- Univision + Google Deal
Originally Aired: 04/27/21

May 5, 2021 • 53min
General Robert Spalding - Big Tech's Social Influence, CCP's Data Empire, Elon Musk + Beijing
General Robert Spalding 2021 Interview: Alex sits down with Brigadier General Robert S. Spalding III, whose impressive resume includes serving as Chief China Strategist for the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, senior Defense Official and Defense Attache to China in Bejing, and Senior Director for Strategic Planning at the National Security Council. Moazed and Spalding discuss the current tech landscape between the U.S. and China, taking a look at Elon Musk's relationship with Beijing, the General's role in limiting Huawei's participation in 5G infrastructure roll out, and the Great Firewall being exported outside of China.
General Spalding has served in senior positions of strategy and diplomacy within the Defense and State Departments for more than 26 years, retiring as a brigadier general. He was the chief architect for the Trump Administration’s widely praised National Security Strategy (NSS), and the Senior Director for Strategy to the President at the National Security Council.
Originally Aired: 05/04/21
#Geopolitics #Huawei #ForeignPolicy

May 4, 2021 • 31min
Winner Take All #154 | NFLX Down 10%+, Discord Rejects Microsoft, Apple AirTags Antitrust
The episode gets started with a look at Netflix's poor Q1, 2021 earnings report. Alex digs into why he thinks the stock has taken a huge hit and Netflix's failure to continue innovating and emabrace platform dynamics. After quickly touching on Zoom, we dig into Discord ending acquisition talks with Microsoft and electing to peruse an IPO in the mid to near future. Also covered, possible antitrust issues with Apples new product, Airtags, Walmart Marketplace's expansion into China, and whether or not inflation is on the way.
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00:19 - Netflix Earnings Disaster
11:09 - Microsoft Discord Deal
15:49 - Walmart Doublespeak
19:15 - Apple Airtags Anti-Competitive
25:01 - Inflation on the Way?
Originally Aired: 04/22/21

Apr 26, 2021 • 19min
Winner Take All #153 | Alibaba Fined By Beijing, Bezos Last Shareholder Letter
We kick off this short episode with a look at Jeff Bezos' last shareholder letter before he steps down as CEO of Amazon. Alex goes over the various points Bezos makes in the letter while offering some of his own insights and analysis on the marketplace statistics refereed to in the final letter before Andy Jassy takes over the platform behemoth. This episode also contains a note on our new WTA text line and coverage of Alibaba being fined $2.8 billion as a result of the Beijing's anti-monopoly probe.
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00:21 - WTA Text Line
00:47 - Bezos' Last Shareholder Letter
14:40 - Alibaba Fined $2.8 Billion
Originally Aired: 04/21/21
#Bezos #Alibaba #AmazonUnion

Apr 15, 2021 • 38min
LBRY + Odysee CEO Jeremy Kauffman | Fighting Big Tech, Saving Crypto, and Free Speech Online
Tell the SEC that cryptocurrency must remain legal and free by signing this petition: https://www.change.org/p/u-s-securities-and-exchange-commission-cryptocurrency-is-not-a-crime
Jeremy Kauffman, founder and CEO of the decentralized content sharing and publishing protocol LBRY, joins the show to discuss the ongoing SEC complaint against LBRY that threatens to stifle the entire cryptocurrency and blockchain industry in the U.S.. As Kauffman and Moazed touch on various details of the SEC complaint, they also discuss censorship on content platforms, launching and running a disruptive startup business, and the ongoing battle against the overreaching policies of big tech.
Jeremy created LBRY because he fell in love with the idea of shared, global content registry that is owned and controlled by no one. Unsurprisingly, he is a longtime supporter of decentralized technology and freedom of information. Prior to LBRY, Jeremy founded TopScore, a startup that processes millions of dollars monthly in event and activity registrations. He attended Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, where he received degrees in physics and computer science.
00:00 - Subscribe for Tech & Business News Daily
00:22 - LBRY CEO Jeremy Kauffman
01:11 - So Easy for YouTubers to Crosspost to LBRY!
01:55 - What is LBRY and Odysee?
03:41 - The Successor to YouTube?
05:10 - Odysee in Top 5,00 Global Websites
05:28 - Big Tech Goes Against the Platform Ethos
08:14 - Have Big Tech CEOs Lost Control?
10:19 - LBRY's Fight Against the SEC
13:59 - Help LBRY Save Crypto
14:30 - LBRY Credit Response to SEC Complaint?
16:06 - Why is The SEC Pursuing LBRY?
18:14 - Is Cryptocurrency Considered a Security?
21:05 - Old Regulations Don't Work w/ Crypto
22:11 - Why Isn't Every Crypto Project Receiving SEC Complaints?
25:16 - Huge Implications for Crypto + Blockchain Industry!
26:33 - Case Has Been Ongoing Since 2018
28:08 - Trying to Run a Startup With Constant SEC Meddling
30:05 - $1,00,000+ in Legal Fees
30:59 - What Can Crypto Supporters Do To Help?
34:18 - Closing Remarks
Originally Aired: 04/13/21
#LBRY #Crypto #CEO

Apr 12, 2021 • 36min
Winner Take All #152 | Platforms = Common Carriers? A16Z Marketplace 100 2021, Applico B2B Top 50
The show starts off with a look at a new non-binding legal opinion penned by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas on the principal legal difficulty that surrounds digital platforms. Justice Thomas highlights some of the challenges with invoking old doctrines in regulation of social media companies and other platforms. Alex discusses the non-binding concurring opinion and the possibility that content platforms could become classified as common carriers, subjecting these companies to special regulations, including a general requirement to serve all comers. The second half of the show takes a look at two recently released marketplace rankings, Andreessen Horowitz's 2021 Marketplace 100, and Applico's new B2B Marketplaces Top 50 Ranking.
00:00 - Subscribe for Tech & Business News Daily
00:32 - Are Content Platforms Common Carriers?
16:08 - Andreessen Horowitz 2021 Marketplace 100
22:29 - Applico B2B Marketplaces Top 50 Ranking
Download Applico's B2B Marketplaces Top 50: Coming Soon!
Andreessen Horowitz's 2021 Marketplace 100: https://a16z.com/marketplace-100/
Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas Opinion: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-197_5ie6.pdf
Originally Aired: 04/06/21
#CommonCarriers #TechNews #Marketplaces

Apr 9, 2021 • 26min
Winner Take All #151 | TikTok Censor Algo, NFT Hype, EU Struggles vs Amazon, ICX Update
The show kicks off with a quick look at the Icon altcoin, recommended to us by Peter Saddington during his February 18th WTA guest appearance. Next, an in depth look at details leaked by a dev who helped develop censorship tools and algorithms for ByteDance's Content Quality Center. Alex reads excerpts from the interview highlighting the intense oversight domestic content platforms are subjected to via the Cyberspace Administration of China. Also covered, reports that the EU is struggling to build an antitrust case against Amazon and a look at NFTs, the newest craze in the world of crypto.
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00:20 - ICX is Up!
01:40 - Beijing Cracking Down on Tech
07:01 - Chinese Censorship Dev Reveals Details
21:00 - EU Amazon Case Struggles?
22:11 - NFT Hype
Originally Aired: 04/02/21
#Podcast #Tech #ByteDance
I helped build ByteDance's vast censorship machine: https://www.protocol.com/china/i-built-bytedance-censorship-machine

Apr 8, 2021 • 33min
Winner Take All #150 | Walmart Expanding U.S. or China?, Starlink vs Great Firewall, Amazon Sellers
Alex opens the episode with a look at two stories from Walmart, one detailing the company's new expansions of U.S. manufacturing, and another that the Walmart Marketplace is relaxing restrictions on foreign sellers. Next, the latest stories of Amazon unfairly treating third-party sellers and some commentary on corruption in the government. The show closes with a discussion on how Starlink may be able to break through China's Great Firewall and a quick check-in on Viacom's stock price (spoiler alert: it's come down a lot since we called out that it was inflated for no good reason).
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00:21 - Walmart Does Magic
09:59 - Seller Spends 200k Fighting Amazon
14:02 - Amazon Camera Sling Copy
17:02 - Corrupt Gov
23:15 - SpaceX vs The Great Firewall
30:14 - Viacom Stock Update
Originally Aired: 03/30/21
#Walmart #Starlink #Amazon —
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Mar 30, 2021 • 35min
Winner Take All #149 | FAMGA Ranking, Regulatory Capture, Palantir CEO on Gov Tech, China Tesla Ban?
Alex starts the show with a quick look at Poshmark, a fashion marketplace whose stock has sharply fallen since touching the $100+ mark on IPO day. After breaking down if $POSH is more fairly valued in the ~$40 range, a quick ranking of the tech giants in FAMGA (Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and Apple) is given before diving into the current regulatory environment for tech. Also covered, what regulatory capture is, the Chinese government restricting government workers from driving Tesla vehicles, and Palantir CEO Alex Karp's commentary on U.S. tech companies lack of willingness to work with the U.S. government. The show closes with a short breakdown of how take rates work in platform businesses.
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00:18 - $POSH Stock Update
01:20 - FAMGA Breakdown
05:33 - Is Tech Regulation a Short-Mid Term Threat?
11:35 - Regulatory Capture
15:26 - Tech Companies + U.S. Gov Work
16:26 - Comments From Palantir CEO
22:36 - Former TikTok CEO Kevin Mayer CNBC Interview
31:58 - China Restricts Teslas for State Employees
34:01 - What is a Take Rate?
Originally Aired: 03/26/21
#RegulatoryCapture #PalantirCEO #FAANG

Mar 22, 2021 • 22min
Winner Take All #148 feat. Nick Johnson | Big Tech M&A History, Platform's Hybrid Revenue
Modern Monopolies Co-Author and Applico Prinicpal Nick Johnson joins the show with Alex to look at the history of Platform M&A deals, breaking down whether or not we see tech monopolies still taking the build from scratch approach. Additionally, Johnson and Moazed dig into how they characterize platform business model revenue, a key metric for determining inclusion in WisdomTree's platform business focused ETF, the WisdomTree Growth Leaders Fund ($PLAT).
Originally Aired: 03/12/21
#Platform #PlatformBusiness #Tech