Discourse in Magic

We made it! 100 episodes is a milestone we never expected to reach. Well, Jonah did. It’s why he started the numbering with 001. Even still, we’re super excited to have gotten this far. In this episode we reflect on how important the podcast has been on their own magic careers. “Everything that’s happened to me in magic over the last few years is because of the podcast,” Tyler says. One of the things that keeps this podcast is the constant feedback from people all over the world. It’s been incredibly satisfying to get messages from people that we would never expect to have found the show. Magic is booming right now and we’re honoured to be a small part of that boom. “There’s never been a better time to get into magic,” Jonah says. We’ve had some incredible episodes over the last 100 episodes. Jonah thinks that that Garrett Thomas episode is one of the stand episodes. It’s the one that he always recommends to first time listeners. There is so much in there that will make you totally rethink the way you do magic. Tyler loved having some of his close friends in the magic community on the podcast. Guys like Ben Train, Chris Mayhew, and Keith Brown have brought a lot to the show. At the risk of becoming sentimental we also have been reflecting on how the podcast has changed their status (somewhat) in the community. “I feel like I can actually offer help and advice now because I actually have something to draw from,” Jonah says. There have been a wide variety of personalities on this podcast but there have been some consistent themes have come up again and again. Magic doesn’t have to be everything is one of them. Tyler realized that he didn’t have to be the guy that worked constantly to make it. Magic will always be a part of his life but being a regular performer may not be the path that he takes. There have been plenty of ups and downs over the last two years. We’ve experienced nearly every possible technical hurdle including occasionally losing entire episodes. But we persevered largely because we enjoy doing this so much. Another big motivator has been the dream of interviewing some big guests. We may never get David Copperfield but we are going to keep at it until we get guests like Darwin Ortiz. In order to mark this occasion we’ve decided to offer some limited edition merchandise for fans of the podcast. There is definitely going to be a shirt and possibly a mug and (maybe) a pillow. We looked at a lot of different options and debated how much demand there is for this stuff. All the details  haven’t been confirmed yet but you can expect a full announcement in the coming weeks. We really appreciate all the support you’ve given us over the last 100 episodes. Thanks to everyone that has shared the podcast or talked about the podcast with other magicians. The show has seen incredible growth over the last few months and it’s all thanks to you! The post Is Discourse in Magic Ending? appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

We’ve been trying to get Michael Close on the show for a long time. You know him from his Workers project, his book Paradigm Shift and his work as a consulting producer on Fool Us. Michael was raised in Fort Wayne, Indiana and in that small town there was a magic shop. A guy named Dick Stoner ran that shop for many years. When Michael was about five years old he got a Sneaky Pete Magic Set. Eventually he realized that buying magic books was much more affordable than buying individual tricks. Michael says that Dick Stoner was a huge influence on his performance style and remains so to this day. Michael continued working as an amateur magician but it was while attending music school that everything changed. He heard from a friend that legendary magician Harry Riser had recently moved from Chicago to Indiana. Michael went to visit him and he his life was forever changed. “We hung out for years.” Michael says. “He became my mentor.” Michael worked as performing musician for several years. But he returned to magic in the early 1990’s. He started to work at a small magic club in a suburb of Indianapolis. His time at that club generated much of the material that later found it’s way into the Workers books which he released between 1990 and 1996. Later in the at decade he moved to Las Vegas and worked at Houdini’s Lounge where he performed magic and played the piano. He started working the lecture circuit and performed for many years. Michael thinks that many magicians will perform a trick without having any idea what the effect is. That’s because they too often jam several effects together into an incomprehensible mish-mash.  While working as a consulting producer on Fool Us he has seen dozens of submitted tricks that lack any coherence. Magicians need to script out their performance in his view. The first thing the Fool Us teams asks prospective magicians is for their script. If you want to try and get on to Fool Us Michael has some simple advice. First, you need an interesting effect. Second, you need an interesting presentation. You should ask yourself what is the five seconds of my effect that could be used as a promo? What will make people really sit up and take notice? A live audience is a captive audience. It’s difficult for them to get up and leave. But that’s not the case with a TV audience. They can leave in an instant. If you’re act is front loaded with patter or procedure you have to jettison that. Get to the effect right away. An interesting look or persona will help you to grab attention as well. Michael has just released two new e-books called The Paradigm Shift. The books are named after a move he developed that is detailed in the book. A pass is usually accomplished using you fingers. But in the Paradigm Shift everything is done using other body parts. The book combines text, pictures and video that you can download in a PDF format. What do you want to tell our audience? The magicians of the world need to realize that when they see a trick on TV it’s not yours. If it’s not for sale it’s not for you. Who should we have on the podcast? John Carney What do you want to ask our audience? Ask yourself why should anyone care? If you can’t answer that questions you need to rethink your act. What was your favourite part of the episode? Tyler liked hearing about how a trick needs to have a clear beginning middle or end. Jonah enjoyed Michael’s direction of how to create an act using scripting. Michael says the most important thing to understand what your definition of magic is. Connect https://www.michaelclose.com/ The post Get on Penn and Teller Fool Us with Michael Close appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

Mario Lopez was just a kid when a friend put a lit cigarette into his fist and made it disappear. He learned how it was done and from that moment on he was in love with magic. Mario moved to Granada in his native Spain when he was 18 where he trained with one of the countries top magicians. He was taught the art of performance and how to create the magical moment. But he didn’t teach young Luis any tricks specifically. It was all about how to perform on-stage. Mario is incredibly dramatic on-stage which he says is a product of his environment. Clowns, actors and musicians are everywhere in Granada and they have all had an impact on his magic. Mario says his magic allows him to share with his audience. It’s a form of communication. Magic is all about sharing his emotions with an audience. Mario loved Loonie Tunes cartoons growing up. Those cartoon are all about creating impossible moments on-screen which is something Mario tried to emulate. Other performers that inspire Mario included Charlie Chaplin and Buster Keaton. Mario believes that the magician is more important than the magic. Who are you really? If you let your true self shine through it will dictate your success. But too often people lack character and that’s why they are not engaging with an audience. When he first started he was very shy on stage. He was told repeatedly to talk louder and to look at his audience. Mario realized in the end that they were wrong. He became the shy g uy on stage. Play into your weaknesses. Mario’s Instagram presence is very unique. Unlike many other magicians he rarely uses cards. He shies away from card magic because he thinks it very difficult to be unique using that style of magic. He thinks its much more important to go to different places. Mining the same old material rarely creates something interesting. That said, Mario has still learned a tremendous amount watching other magicians on Instagram. There are many creative moments in a day, according to Mario. He allows himself to open to ideas at any time. Mario has a ton of weird objects on his table at home from chains to coins to cards. He is constantly playing with those objects. From that new ideas are constantly born. What do you want to tell the audience? Enjoy the process. Enjoy everything that has to do with magic. What do you want to ask the audience? Are you doing the magic that you love or not? What was your favourite part of the episode? Jonah liked hearing about how Mario uses his face so expressively. Mario liked discussing the importance of using his eyes and face to communicate with the audience. Plugs Instagram The post Using Your Face with Mario Lopez appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

Lloyd Barnes grandfather became a travelling magician shortly after the war. He developed many tricks over the years and passed those onto Lloyd. His focus was much more on sport as a teenager – especially boxing and gymnastics. His university career was less than successful – he was thrown out in his final year. But that ignited his interest in magic and soon he was selling tricks and illusions that he developed himself. He was broke and homeless for a time and slept on many friends and families couches over the next few years. Lloyd now works with Ellusionist. He scouts tricks from other performers and from submissions to the company. He helps to make them more practical and performable. When you send a trick to the company, he’s the guy that reads the email. The other part of his job is to shoot and edit the trailers for the new effects. Along with his own performing career that keeps him incredibly busy. Lloyd has to watch an enormous number of submitted tricks. As you can imagine, many of them are really bad.  But not only that. He gets people submitting tricks with very little research. He once had a young magician submit the double-lift to him as a new trick. He’s always impressed when he receives a trick that was recorded in front of a real audience. It shows that the magician worked out and thought about how the trick should be performed. When Lloyd is creating his own magic he takes a very strict approach. He doesn’t try to change a move just for the sake of changing it. There has to be a reason for doing it. It has to make the trick better. And there are some avenues to be explored within existing methods but they are pretty rare. Lloyd recently released an Instagram showing a bill melting through a card. It’s the perfect example of a visual trick. For him a visual trick isn’t just showing the audience something. It’s showing them the magic occur right in front of their eyes. Lloyd is passionate about creating visual magic. That passion was born from watching so many tricks that were identical. He wanted to create something different. He has tried hard to create tricks that were unique and unlike anything else out there. There is a big bone of contention between magicians about whether we are trying to trick people or to make them truly believe. Lloyd counts himself in the latter category. He wants to create CGI right in front of your face. Who should we have on the podcast Paul Harris What do you want to tell our audience? Don’t be afraid to perform with the audience. Don’t perform at them. Listen to them and work with them. Be authentic. What do you want to ask our audience? If there was one thing you’d want to see in the industry what would it be? What was your favourite part of the episode? Jonah liked hearing about the quantity of people submitting to Ellusionist and about the mistakes that are often made. Tyler liked hearing how Lloyd first got into magic and how that has shaped his career. Lloyd is looking forward to seeing if people accept the challenge of creating a new trick. Plugs Instagram The post Visual Magic and Ellusionist Secrets with Lloyd Barnes appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

It’s episode 96 and time for another solo episode with Jonah and Tyler. We start the episode talking about what we should do to celebrate our upcoming 100th episode. We’ve had some pretty dumb ideas in the past – like listening to all 100 episodes in a row. We need your ideas on this one. Hit us up on Instagram! Tyler has an upcoming gig in February that he is really excited about. He is working at a bridal companies new facility in front of 800 people. Shout out to his brother-in-law for hooking that up! Jonah was at a summer camp convention which was super expensive. In the end not that many camps showed up to talk to him. On the brighter side Jonah connected with entrepreneur Noah Kagan. Noah wanted to learn magic and Jonah has been teaching him over Facetime. On top of being a magician to the rich and famous Jonah has also been performing a lot in and around Toronto. The Dream 100 is a list of your ideal clients that business gurus suggest you create. Jonah decided to create a list of the 100 guests he most wants on the show. It turned out that most of the people he came up with had already. But there were a few that haven’t. Tyler would love to have Neil Patrick Harris and Chris Pratt (because he did one trick one time). Jonah wants to get Juan Tamariz and Dani DaOrtiz and, of course, Penn and Teller. David Copperfield and Darwin Ortiz are also high up on that list. Jonah has been working on a trick that features a rotary phone. He calls himself from the future this made perfect sense at the time but now he wonders why a call from the future would be on a rotary phone. He is also in the middle of running a course called the Magicians Guide to Getting Gigs. He’s also working on another course that will help people to script their shows. MagiFest took place recently in Columbus, Ohio and Jonah was disappointed that he didn’t attend. David Williamson was in attendance and Jonah hopes that he was congratulated for his appearance on Discourse. The downloads for that episode were really high. Recently, we met up with a fan who came out to Toronto. We had some drinks, jammed a little and talked a lot about magic. We talked about making simple tricks play big and how to make a business out of the art. If you’re ever in Toronto be sure to look us up. We love meeting listeners of the podcast! Jonah asked Tyler what’s changed in the podcast over the last 96 episodes. Tyler thinks it’s become much more streamlined. The conversations feel a lot more comfortable and natural. The show is much more practical than it was at the start. Jonah agrees with that sentiment and adds that he loves hearing more about each of the guests lives. Jonah recently had an epiphany, recently, about his stage presence. He had been trying to take himself out of the magic while performing. But some prominent magicians told him that if it’s his show than he has to be part of the magic. As a wrap up question a viewer on Instagram asked if would ever want to start our own camp. Tyler said that he would rather die than attempt that. The post Look How Far We’ve Come appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

He is Blue Crown Magic, he is Alex Pandrea. He first got into magic when he was five years old.  A clown came to his birthday party and did tricks like disappearing silk or sponge balls.  But his interest continued into young adulthood.  He grew up in New York City and it was through the local magic shops in Queens like Tannens that he discovered more magic.  He created some new effects as a teenager. That love of creation continued as he progressed to performing for and hanging out with other magicians.  His love of David Blaine was all encompassing – to the point that he brought his own version of the fire wall to school.  That trick got him suspended and a ton of detention.  When he got to college he married at 19 and that forced him to grow-up very quickly.  That led to him creating his own material and doing his own shows.  Alex believes that a magic career, like life, goes through stages. Alex started Blue Crown in 2011 when he was still in college.  He had literally one desk job in his life and he quickly decided he wanted to avoid a 9 to 5 at all costs.  Alex began to teach himself the skills he was going to need – from web design to photography.  He began producing his own videos after painstakingly teaching himself Final Cut Pro.  Alex thinks that he got in at exactly the right time.  When he started producing his own playing cards there were only a handful of companies doing the same thing.  His first deck design sold out in less than 20 minutes and that took Blue Crown to the next level. Alex has also built a sizable audience on YouTube.  All of his content is available for free.  He does that as a way to create a close relationship with his audience.  He believes the community will be much more willing to support new products from Blue Crown.  The most successful entrepreneurs are those who are not trying to monetize everything all the time.  Alex has applied that philosophy to Blue Crown. Alex divorced when he was just 27 years old.  He packed up his entire life into his career and decided to deliver a few lectures.  He had always wanted to get out of NYC and the lecture series started with five dates.  Over the last three years that number ballooned to 112 different cities.  This has been the third phase of his career.  Putting meaning into people’s lives by teaching them magic has been incredibly fulfilling for him. The internet is often a very unfriendly place.  From comment sections to Reddit there is an incredible amount of trash-talking.  But Alex feels that it can be a place to create community as well.  Having a positive group that helps each other to grow is his goal.  Every revolution has it’s good and bad parts. Alex is trying to steer this magical revolution towards more openness and inclusiveness. Who should we have on next? Peter Turner What do you want to tell our audience? Take it slower. A lot of people rush through learning, performing and life itself. Take a step back and think about things more clearly. What was your favourite part of the episode? Jonah liked learning about Alex’s experience learning how to create online content. Tyler enjoyed hearing about the process of getting good at creating good content. Alex wanted to emphasize the importance of never giving up and never letting up on that momentum. Plugs https://www.instagram.com/a.pandrea/?hl=en The post Making Magic and the Playing Card Revolution with Alex Pandrea appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

We are here with a very special guest this week.  David Williamson is an incredible comedy magician and sleight-of-hand master.  David first fell in love with magic as a kid when he read a short story about Harry Houdini.  He learned the French Drop and his teacher said “maybe one day you’ll be a magician.”  He feels that he was bitten by the bug early and he had no other choice but to follow his passion. He was totally obsessed with it from a very early age.  Amateur Magicians Handbook was hugely important for David.  Harry Hay pointed out in that book that magic requires an audience to become real.  It’s an empty practice without someone else.  David was painfully shy.  But he forced himself to get up on open stages at bars at the age of 15. David’s stage style is very organic because he thinks he doesn’t really have an act.  It’s just attention seeking.  Get attention and keep their attention.  When someone looks at their watch in the audience it kills him.  He does a lot of corporate clients early on and he realized that focusing the attention on the people in the office was more important.  Eventually his act became more focused on the audience.  He doesn’t do a monologue.  He immediately starts audience interaction.  It’s play time. David thinks it’s very hard to give advice to up and coming magicians.  There are as many paths to success as there are magicians.  He once had an older magician tell him not to pursue his dream to be a professional.  But he totally ignored that advice.  When asked he tries to talk young people out of it.  If they don’t have the fortitude they will give up. Being overly picky about the audience isn’t necessary.  David just has one question: Are they human beings?  If so he can perform for them.  But he does have different styles for corporate clients or children.  David is known as being one of the funniest magicians performing.  But he insists that everyone has a sense of humour.  Magicians just need to figure out how to enhance their innate sense of humour.  You just have to commit to the gag.  Don’t wink at the audience.  The only way to get the genuine laugh is to forget about being the cool guy and committing to the gag. Turning a trick into a performance isn’t easy.  But every trick has a narrative unto itself.  Ideally, you can include a twist at the end.  Combining two effects can sometimes achieve that surprise.  But you have to ask yourself: “Why should people care?”  What is the emotional hook that will draw the audience in?  If you can touch them emotionally you will truly connect with your audience. What do you want to ask the question? Where did Mayer Effetz’s finger end up? What do you want to tell our audience? Stop doing a double-undercut.  David hates that move. Who should we have on the podcast? Richard McDougall Noel Britton What did you like about the episode? Tyler liked hearing that you always have to be a student. Jonah liked hearing about how David fell out of love with magic for a while but eventually reconnected it. David loved all the praise. Plugs? Circus 1903 in Las Vegas DavidWilliamson.com The post Becoming an Entertainer with David Williamson appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

Our guest this week came across our Instagram feed and we knew we had to have him on the podcast.  His work as a cardist is truly awe-inspiring.  John first got into magic after his family got him a magic kit when he was 8 years old.  He learned the boomerang card throw at age eleven and from that point on cardistry became his obsession.  Finding tricks was difficult as he fell into the generation where magic stores started to close but online stores were not yet common.  That forced him to develop his own magic and his own style. There is a debate in the community about whether being skillful with cards takes away from the magic.  John disagrees with that assessment.  He feels strongly that card flourishes adds a lot of value to his magical performances.  He understands the old thinking which states that being obviously skillful with the cards detracts from their magical quality.  Nevertheless, modern audiences already know that a magician is going to be good with a deck of cards. We are in this golden age of cardistry with incredible content being posted online.  Magic is all about creating a series of moments to achieve an incredible experience for the audience.  You have to think about how all those moments add-up to a great show.  Being creative in magic is all about thinking of the final trick and then developing the show backwards from there.  When it comes to cardistry, his inspiration comes from allowing the cards dance themselves.  What do the cards want to do?  Once he figures that out he starts to develop his moves. Then we asked him about releasing what he does. Specifically why he charges to release magic tricks, but not cardistry moves? He feels that charging for cardistry doesn’t feel right because so many of his moves were developed from others.  But John does charge for magic.  He does that because of the differences in the communities.  Caridstry has a culture of sharing which is much different than the magic community.  He also charges for his magic tricks because of the level of work that he puts into developing his magic as opposed to his card moves. The John Stessel Instagram presence is incredible. Tyler and Jonah are baffled about how he achieves his shots.  John says that his DSLR mount is his greatest secret and he is not going to reveal it to anyone.  But beyond the shots John has focussed on creating a great brand.  He created some videos with a full film crew.  They were super high-quality but they did 20-30% less in views than his stupid little personal videos.  He realized his audience loved the personal content.  So, he decided to focus much more on that kind of content. He feels strongly that building an online brand is critical to young magician’s careers.  He got more people stopping him on the street after appearing o What do you want to ask the audience? Can you describe the kind of brand can you build around yourself? What do you want to tell the audience? Ignore everyone’s opinions and work hard! Who should we invite onto the podcast? Frank Sung B Smith What did you like about the episode? Tyler liked hearing about John’s process for developing new material. Jonah really loved hearing about how John developed his online brand. John wanted to reemphasize that everything he does is intentional What do you want to plug? https://www.instagram.com/johnstessel/ The post Cardistry, Magic, and Getting Noticed with John Stessel appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

Welcome everyone to Episode 92 – our first episode of 2018! We both had a good New Year’s Eve. We relaxed with friends, some hors d’oeuvres and champagne. Last New Year’s we challenged ourselves to come up with some magical resolutions. Jonah resolved to work more on scripting his magic performances in 2017 – something he managed to achieve. Tyler, meanwhile, can’t remember what his resolution was. Though, he may have promised himself that he was going to perform more. This year Jonah resolved to perform at least one show that he is truly happy with. When he performs now he is usually only happy with 60% of the show. Tyler agrees with that assessment. When he walks off stage he is rarely happy with his performance. In that vein Tyler resolved to create a one hour show in 2018. He wants to craft something that his scripted and story-boarded. Tyler thinks a year should be more than enough time to accomplish that. Recently Jonah had some listeners introduce themselves as “those old magicians you make fun of on the podcast.” Jonah wants to clarify that your age has nothing to do with their criticisms. Specifically, we don’t like it when people think that magic is a private social club and not an art form to be shared. Please don’t accuse us of being ageist! 2017 also marked a big milestone for us. Earlier in the year we tried to start the #DiscourseAt1000 hashtag which almost nobody used but us. Nevertheless, we managed to cross the 1000 followers mark on Instagram this year! Now we’re just hoping for the swipe up to listen to the episode function on Instagram. Next up: 10,000 followers! Five years ago Jonah wrote down a list of questions about the philosophy and practice of magic. On the last solo episode we talked about the first half of the list. Today we tackle the rest of the list. First off young Jonah asked himself the following: Does making a plot or purpose to magic add value to the effect or distract from the effect? Why would one happen and not the other? Tyler answers this by saying that the key is about the magicians intent. If you’re setting out to baffle your audience than a bare bones effect is the best way to accomplish that. But if you want to hit the audience on a more emotional level than a grand story might work better. Jonah agrees with that answer. Though, it might be more difficult to do magic without a big presentation. The next question asked: Are all impossible things equally impossible? Why are some more than others? Tyler answered quickly that all impossible things are equally impossible by definition. The amount of difficulty required in the audience members head is what’s important. Jonah thinks that there are levels of impossible. It’s more impossible to disappear a car then a coin. Tyler thinks that’s a logical impossibility. Next up: Does the audience’s prediction of the magical result before verifying it strengthen the effect or weaken it? Is surprising them a good idea? Tyler thinks that a surprise ending still has to make sense inside the logic of the story your trying to tell. Sometimes you want the audience to follow along the whole time. But there are other times when you want to throw a twist that the audience didn’t see coming. Jonah says that his favourite thing in magic is when the audience realizes whats about to happen moments before it occurs. Finally young Jonah asks: What is the claim of the magician? Are we claiming to have powers or just the ability to fool you? Tyler thinks that’s it’s often unclear about claims a magician is making. There isn’t always a claim being made. In his own magic he always makes it clear that magic isn’t real. Jonah says that he wants the audience to know that it’s not real but he wants it to feel real. He will use props like potions on stage to get the crowd into the illusion. He likes to find a way to show that the trick isn’t real without saying that it isn’t real. We have some big plans for 2018 including more big guests and some Discourse branded products. Thank you so much for being with us over the last year. The post New Year, New Magic appeared first on Discourse in Magic.

Felix Bodden has appeared on Fool Us and has created a really popular Instagram feed.  He first became interested in magic when he was eight years old in 2001 – the same year that the first Harry Potter movie came out.  But Felix became frustrated when he realized there was no such thing as real magic.  His Mom took pity on him and bought Felix his first magic kit.  When you’re a kid everything is magical. Felix has been one of the main proponents of the #Ihatecameratricks hashtag on Instagram.  He thinks there is a real problem of people using CGI effects and edits in online videos.  It’s hurting magic.  Posting illusions that are totally impossible to achieve in real life makes it very difficult for real magicians.  The hashtag is intended to let viewers know that the effects they are watching were not created using camera edits or animation. Felix started using Instagram in 2013 when the magic community on that platform was really small.  He got a lot of positive feedback from people like Jeremy Griffith which encouraged him to continue.  He likes to use Instagram as a catalogue of his tricks.  It helps him to visualize the material he has produced. After years in magic it’s hard to be fooled.  That true even with the huge influx of new magic on Instagram.  Felix searches hard for new tricks that stump him.  That recently occurred when he was given a sneak peek at a new card trick that left him baffled.  Felix believes that magic occurs when there is a real connection with the audience. There is a lot of debate right now about whether or not revealing secrets online is good or bad for the magical community.  Felix thinks there are good and bad things about that practice.  He says that revealing methods takes away from the awe of popular tricks.  That said, he likes when secrets are revealed in a tutorial, where the history of the trick is discussed along with the secret.  If you’re going to do it – do it right. Many of the people performing magic on social media are doing it wrong, in Felix’s opinion.  People look unprofessional with long or dirty nails, bad clothes and a lack of charisma.  But beyond appearance and comportment, people are making technical mistakes too.  Using unlicensed music that will get your video pulled or not incorporating real people are rookie mistakes. Felix recently appeared on Penn and Teller’s Fool Us and really enjoyed himself.  From the production crew to Penn and Teller themselves, everyone treated him with a lot of kindness.  The reaction to the piece that he performed was really positive.  He focussed more on the presentation that the trick itself.  Felix wanted to make sure that he overcame the language barrier.  But he made a small mistake while on stage but he was still quite happy with how it came out.  His purpose was not fool them.  It was to reach as wild an audience as possible. Felix lives and works in the Dominican Republic which, he says, is a difficult place to access good magic.  There are maybe ten good magicians in the whole country.  There are no magic shops and there is no way to learn magic without the internet.  Adding to the problem is the fact that the Dominican Republic is very religious.  And that sometimes means many people confuse magic with Satanism. What question do you want to ask our audience? Why is visual magic so important right now? What do you want to tell our audience? Just be happy.  If you don’t love what you are doing than you’re wasting your time. What was your favourite part of the episode? Jonah liked hearing about Felix using Instagram to document his own work for his own use. Tyler loved Felix’s introduction to magic story as a young kid who first saw Harry Potter. Felix really enjoyed meeting Jonah and Tyler Who should we have on the show next? Shin Lim What do you want to plug? Instagram Cortana trick In a flash The post Inner Secrets of Instagram Magic with Felix Bodden appeared first on Discourse in Magic.