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Wharton Fintech Podcast
Connecting you with the people, companies, and ideas revolutionizing global financial services. Our guests are the leading fintech founders, investors, and thinkers in the world.
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Dec 16, 2020 • 33min
The Evolution of Private Investing with Griffith Norville of Hamilton Lane + Cobalt LP
In today’s episode, Ryan Zauk sits down with Griffith Norville, Managing Director at Hamilton Lane.
Over the last decade, the scope of private investments has exploded across products, asset classes, and geographies. LPs, often equipped with just a small investment team, are facing greater difficulty sorting through droves of funds, managers, trends, and data. Hamilton Lane and its cutting-edge product, Cobalt LP, are tackling this problem head-on.
Griff is the Head of Cobalt LP, a software solution that helps LPs with portfolio construction, benchmarking, and investment selection focused on the private markets. Cobalt also offers front-office analytics and back-office managed services solutions, all backed by Hamilton Lane’s first-class historical data and insights. In addition to this role, Griff helps run strategic technology investments for the firm.
They talk about the state of Private Markets investing and how the explosive growth of private markets has created such a need for Cobalt LP. They close with his role in strategic tech investing, including how he sourced a deal from a fishbowl (don’t you miss in-person conferences?).
Hamilton Lane is an alternative investment management firm that provides private markets solutions to investors around the world with over $500B total assets under management and supervision as of September 30, 2020 - Inclusive of $73.1B in assets under management and $474.1B in assets under supervision as of September 30, 2020.
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Dec 13, 2020 • 28min
Crypto Comes to India with Neeraj Khandelwal, Co-Founder of CoinDCX
In today’s episode, Anchit Gupta (WG’21) is joined by Neeraj Khandelwal, Co-Founder of CoinDCX. Started in 2018, CoinDCX is India’s largest and safest cryptocurrency exchange and liquidity aggregator. CoinDCX offers users single-point access to a diverse suite of crypto-based financial products and services.
Neeraj spearheads the technical development of all CoinDCX products. Prior to his role at CoinDCX, he served as Vice President of Engineering at Holachef and Chief Technology Officer at Doormint, leading a team of over 20 talented developers. Neeraj holds a degree in Electrical Engineering from the Indian Institute of Technology Bombay.
In this interview, Neeraj shares:
- CoinDCX’s customer base and their investment preferences
- Awareness of crypto in India and CoinDCX’s efforts to increase it
- Their competitive landscape and ecosystem in India
- His business strategy in response to Crypto’s high volatility and risk
- The future of Cryptocurrency in India
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Dec 11, 2020 • 18min
Reinventing Financial Systems – Henrique Dubugras, Co-Founder/Co-CEO of Brex
In this episode, my guest is Henrique Dubugras, Co-Founder & Co-CEO of Brex, a financial operating system for startups and growing companies, with services including a charge card, cash management, and controls in a single account.
Originally from Brazil, Henrique built a payments company when he was only sixteen and in just three years grew it to process over $1.5 billion in processed transactions. Shortly thereafter, he co-founded Brex along with Pedro Franceschi.
In this interview, we talk about:
- Henrique’s story from entrepreneur, to Stanford student, to Stanford dropout and Brex co-founder
- How he met his co-founder, Pedro, and their inspiration to launch Brex
- Their significant decision to move Brex into a remote-first company and what that means for them
- The importance of company culture and some key lessons for fintech founders
- And a whole lot more!
Henrique Dubugras
Henrique Dubugras is Co-Founder & Co-CEO of Brex — the smartest corporate card in the room. A Brazilian entrepreneur, Henrique built payments company Pagar.me — the Stripe of Brazil — when he was sixteen years old. In just three years, Pagar.me grew to US$1.5 billion in volume of transactions processed. In the fall of 2016, Henrique sold Pagar.me and enrolled at Stanford University. After eight months, he left school and founded Brex.
About Brex
Brex is reimagining financial systems so every growing company can realize its full potential. By rebuilding from scratch the entire technology stack for credit card issuing, storing and transferring money, Brex has designed financial software that avoids previously painful banking problems. Traditional banking systems are broken; previously neither founders nor their businesses had access to great financial perks and benefits that their corporate counterparts enjoyed. Brex created products for fast moving companies that are intuitive, well designed, and have more powerful functionality than anything on the market. At its core, Brex exists to empower every growing company to dream bigger.
In June 2018 Brex launched the first corporate card and rewards program designed for Startups. Brex reimagined every aspect of corporate cards, including 10-20x higher limits than traditional cards, tailored rewards with points on every purchase, and no personal guarantee for founders. This is a radically better experience for customers. In Fall 2019, Brex introduced its second product, Brex Cash. A first-of-its-kind cash management account that enables companies to simplify financial operations, pay for expenses and grow their business, all with zero fees. As a unified platform, Brex brings together the ability to store money and pay bills in a single, elegant dashboard replete with integrations to other financial software -- a new vision for the autonomous finance function.
Having started as part of the Y Combinator accelerator program in 2017, the team has grown to over 400 people. Based in San Francisco, Brex has raised over US$465 million in venture capital, with support from Kleiner Perkins Growth, YC Continuity Fund, Greenoaks Capital, Ribbit Capital, IVP, DST, as well as fintech insiders like Peter Thiel and Max Levchin. Brex has also raised over $510 million in debt funding from Barclays. As of writing it is worth $3 billion.

Dec 9, 2020 • 35min
Building Big Things and Moving Fast - Allison Barr Allen, Co-Founder/COO of Fast
Miguel Armaza sits down with Allison Barr Allen, Co-founder and COO of Fast, an online login and checkout platform on a mission to make buying online faster, safer and easier. The company is backed by Stripe, Index Ventures, Susa Ventures, Global Founders Capital, and Brian Sugar.
Prior to Fast, Allison held senior product roles at Uber, where her team launched and scaled Uber’s payments, risk, and compliance products globally. Before that she was a strategy consultant at PwC.
Allison is also a passionate private and public investor, both as an LP at Operator Collective and as an advocate for value investing in the public stock market.
We talked about:
- Allison’s fascinating experiences at Uber
- The power of investing in public and private markets
- Her journey at Fast over the last 12 months,
- The value of listening and acting on client feedback
- The importance of company culture, partnerships, and having a really clear vision of the future of your company
- and much, much more!
Allison Barr Allen, Co-founder and COO
Allison Barr Allen is the co-founder and COO of Fast, the world’s fastest online login and checkout platform. Previously, Allison was the head of global product operations for the Money Team at Uber, where she helped scale Uber from 2,000 employees to more than 26,000 worldwide. Allison’s team launched and scaled Uber’s payments, risk, and compliance products globally, including on-demand payments, cash products, debit cards and credit cards.
Prior to Uber, Allison served as a healthcare strategy consultant at PwC. In addition to her role at Fast, Allison is a limited partner at Operator Collective, a venture capital firm that brings together leaders from diverse backgrounds to invest in the next generation of enterprise technology. Allison is also deeply committed to supporting entrepreneurs through Trail Run Capital, her angel investment fund.
Allison graduated from Northwestern University with a Bachelors of Science degree in Communication Sciences and Disorders.
About Fast
Fast's mission is to make buying online faster, safer and easier for everyone. Its Fast Login and Fast Checkout products enable a one-click sign-in and purchasing experience that makes it easier for people to buy and merchants to sell. The company's products work on any browser, device or platform to deliver a consistent, stress-free purchasing experience. Fast is entirely consumer focused and invests heavily in its users' privacy and data security. Headquartered in San Francisco, Fast is a privately held company funded by Stripe, Index Ventures, Susa Ventures, Global Founders Capital and Brian Sugar – who also serves on the board.

Dec 7, 2020 • 40min
Frank Rotman, Founding Partner at QED Investors - Past, Present, and Future of Fintech!
Miguel Armaza interviews Frank Rotman, Founding Partner of QED Investors, a Venture Capital fund that invests in early-stage, disruptive financial services companies around the world. Frank focuses on financial services and financial technology companies that are credit-oriented or have data analytics foundations at their core and his portfolio includes some of the fintech rockstars of our generation, including LendUp, Credit Karma, Avant, SoFi, and many more.
We talk about:
- Frank’s experience at Capital One, starting as one of the first employees to senior executive and chief credit officer
- The evolution of QED
- The state fintech in the US, Latin America, and around the world
- His approach to evaluating early-stage fintech startups
- His outlook on the road ahead for the industry.
- And much, much more!
Finally, we also talk about Frank’s Twitter presence. It’s not an exaggeration to say he is probably the most respected fintech voice on Twitter and has become famous for sharing some of the most thoughtful and in-depth twitter threads. In case you’re not following him, I recommend you check him out. His username is @FintechJunkie.
Frank Rotman
Frank Rotman is a founding partner of QED Investors. His investments are focused on financial services and financial technology companies that are credit oriented or have data analytics foundations at their core. His portfolio of 20+ investments includes many of the emerging next-generation companies in the financial services eco-system such as Credit Karma, Prosper, Avant Credit, SoFi, GreenSky, LendUp and ApplePie Capital.
Frank was one of the earliest analysts hired into Capital One and spent almost 13 years there helping build many of the company’s business units and operational areas. With two decades in consumer & small business finance, Frank is widely known in the industry as a Credit Risk and Portfolio Management Expert. His responsibilities have included turning around underperforming business units, building new businesses from concept to market leadership positions, overseeing the credit performance of Capital One as a whole, and creating a Student Lending company after leaving Capital One in December 2005. Frank graduated from the University of Virginia with degrees that included Applied Mathematics (B.S.) and Systems Engineering (M.S.).
About QED Investors
QED is a leading boutique venture capital firm based in Alexandria, VA, co-founded by Nigel Morris and Frank Rotman. It invests in early-stage, disruptive financial services companies in North America, South America, and the United Kingdom. QED is dedicated to building great businesses and uses a unique, hands-on approach that leverages its partners’ decades of entrepreneurial and operational experience, helping companies achieve breakthrough growth. Notable investments include Nubank, SoFi, Credit Karma, Klarna, GreenSky, Avant, Flywire, Remitly, QuintoAndar, Creditas, ClearScore, and Konfio.

Dec 4, 2020 • 33min
The Future of Financial Advice with Jess Liberi, Head of Product at eMoney
On today’s episode, Ryan Zauk is joined by Jess Liberi, Head of Product for eMoney, a Fidelity-owned company.
eMoney is a company most people aren’t familiar with, but many have been affected by. eMoney is a software company that empowers financial advisors with the tools to create robust financial plans, set savings, investing, and spending goals, conduct cash flow analysis, and much more. eMoney is used by over 70,000 financial professionals across a wide variety of practices in the US, reaching the financial future of ~5 million US households.
It’s been trendy over the last decade to claim that financial advisors are becoming obsolete, have archaic fee models, etc. But Jess and Ryan dive into how advisors have adapted to new consumer demands both from the product and fee side, and the importance of a planning-centric advisor. During the COVID crisis, advisors were as important as ever, helping people stay the course during rough times. They also cover eMoney's product, the advisor trends Jess spotted during COVID, their new "Project Incentive," how advisors have been (and will continue to) adapt, and much more.
Highlights below:
7:50 - A brief look at the evolution of the financial advisor
9:01 - eMoney's "competitive advantage" and what differentiates them
10:05 - Some incredible initiatives eMoney has taken on to help 2,000+ students get externships and push advising toward planning-centricity
12:41 - What behavior changes, or lack thereof, they saw during COVID
18:45 - What's keeping advisors up at night, how they need to adapt products and fee structure, and surprising statistics about the engagement of people over the age of 60
22:50 - eMoney's "Project Incentive"
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Dec 2, 2020 • 30min
Building Unicorns and Redefining Online Banking - Renaud Laplanche, Upgrade CEO/Co-Founder
Building Unicorns and Redefining Online Banking - Renaud Laplanche, Upgrade CEO/Co-Founder
I sat down with Renaud Laplanche, co-founder and CEO of Upgrade, a neobank that offers affordable and responsible credit to mainstream consumers. Since inception in 2017, Upgrade has surpassed $100 million in revenue run rate and a billion-dollar valuation. The company is backed by some of the best VCs in the industry and has raised over $200M dollars in debt and equity, including Mouro Capital, Ribbit Capital, Union Square Ventures, FirstMark Capital, CreditEase, and many more.
Prior to Upgrade, Renaud founded and ran Lending Club, a company that pioneered consumer fintech and that he took public in December 2014 at a 10B dollar valuation. There’s no doubt Renaud and Lending Club inspired a generation of fintech founders around the world and countless of fintech founders repeatedly cite Lending Club as an inspiration for their companies.
Renaud is also in a select and exclusive club of founders that have started not one, but two unicorns.
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Renaud Laplanche
Renaud is the co-founder and CEO of Upgrade, Inc. a neobank that offers affordable and responsible credit to mainstream consumers. Under his leadership, Upgrade reached $100 million in revenue run rate, profitability and a billion-dollar valuation within 3 years of launch. Upgrade is the only neobank backed by one of the world’s top 10 largest banks.
Prior to Upgrade, Renaud founded and ran Lending Club for 10 years. He took the company public, reaching a market capitalization of $10 billion in December 2014. At Lending Club, Renaud pioneered consumer fintech and grew the company to become the largest provider of personal loans in America.
Renaud was ranked #23 in Bloomberg Markets’ 2015 Most Influential List, an annual ranking of the World’s top 50 most influential leaders across technology, finance, and politics. He was also recognized at the Clinton Global Initiative by President Clinton for expanding access to affordable and responsible credit. In 2014, he won the Economist Innovation Award in the consumer products category and was named the "best start-up CEO to work for" by Business Insider. Renaud was named “Fintech Executive of the Year” by Finovate in 2020.
He also holds the Newport-Bermuda world speed sailing record.
About Upgrade
Upgrade is a neobank that offers affordable and responsible credit to mainstream consumers through personal loans and cards, together with credit monitoring and education tools that help consumers better understand and manage their money. Over $3.5 billion in loans and cards have been originated by the Upgrade platform since inception in 2017. Upgrade is headquartered in San Francisco, California, with an operations center in Phoenix, Arizona, and a technology center in Montreal, Canada. Personal Credit Lines are issued by Cross River Bank, a New Jersey State Chartered Commercial Bank, Member FDIC, Equal Housing Lender. Upgrade Card is issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC, pursuant to a license from Visa U.S.A. Inc. Rewards associated with the Upgrade Card, when applicable, are provided by Upgrade, Inc. More information is available at: https://www.upgrade.com.
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Nov 30, 2020 • 30min
Anish Acharya, General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz - Doubling Down on Fintech
Miguel Armaza sits down with Anish Acharya, General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz (A16Z), where he invests primarily in financial services and adjacent technologies.
Prior to joining A16Z, Anish held multiple leadership roles at Credit Karma and before that he founded two different startups – SocialDeck (acquired by Google) and Snowball (acquired by Credit Karma).
In this episode, we talk about his transition from operator investor; The evolution of his investing approach; Why all of his best career decisions have mostly been focused on people; and, why he believes there’s a huge opportunity in fintech for the GenZ generation.
Anish is also a passionate DJ and loves to spin records, so as bonus for our listeners, we have included a few minutes of his latest mix at the end of the show!
Anish Acharya
Anish Acharya is a General Partner at Andreessen Horowitz where he invests primarily in financial services and adjacent technologies. He currently serves on the boards of remote payroll and compliance platform Deel and construction technology company Mosaic. Anish joined Andreessen Horowitz in 2019.
Prior to joining a16z, Anish held multiple roles at Credit Karma including the General Manager of Core Product and General Manager of U.S. Card, which he helped scale to over 100MM members and nearly $1B in 2019 revenue. Anish joined Credit Karma in 2015 via the acquisition of Snowball, a notifications startup he founded a year earlier.
Prior to creating Snowball, Anish founded SocialDeck, a social-gaming company that was acquired by Google in 2010. He went on to lead various mobile product efforts as well as invest at Google Ventures. Anish graduated from the University of Waterloo and lives in the Bay Area with his family.
About A16Z
Andreessen Horowitz (a16z) is a Silicon Valley-based venture capital firm that backs bold entrepreneurs building the future through technology. The firm is stage agnostic, investing in seed to late-stage technology companies, across the consumer, enterprise, bio/healthcare, crypto, and fintech spaces. a16z has nearly $16.5B in assets under management across multiple funds. See portfolio companies here: https://a16z.com/portfolio/.
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Nov 29, 2020 • 38min
The Latin American Opportunity - Hernán Fernández, Founder of Angel Ventures
Miguel Armaza sits down with Hernan Fernandez, Founder and Co-Managing Partner at Angel Ventures, one of the oldest and most active Venture Capital funds in Latin America investing in early-stage to early-growth companies with business models tailored for the Latin American market.
We talked about Hernan’s career, what drove him to leave the corporate world and launch one of the first VC’s in the region, his take on the entrepreneurial market in Latin America, and some of the trends and opportunities that get him going these days.
Hernan is also the founder of the largest angel investment network in Latin America and serves as a Board Member at the Mexican Association of PE & VC Funds. Prior to AV, Hernan got his MBA degree at MIT’s Sloan School of Management
Hernán Fernández Lamadrid
Hernan is the Founder and Co-Managing Partner at Angel Ventures, where he manages deal-flow, investor relations and shares duties in creating value for the investment portfolio. He is also the founder of the largest angel investment network in Latin America. He currently serves as a Board Member at the Mexican Association of PE & VC Funds (AMEXCAP). Prior to Angel Ventures, Hernan started his professional career as a corporate lawyer in PwC’s Mexico City and Paris branch offices, as a consultant for the Sustainable Business Initiative of the United Nations Development Program in the U.S. and Paraguay and later as a management consultant for Strategy& (formerly Booz & Company) in Mexico City. He has been named one of CNN/Expansion 30 Mexico’s Promises and the Most Influential Angel Investor in Mexico according to TechCrunch. Hernán holds a master’s degree in Business Administration (MBA) from the MIT Sloan School of Management and a law degree from ITAM in Mexico. AV has put together a strong and flexible team, bestinclass, in-house developed processes and attracted a multidisciplinary group of advisors, mentors and allies that not only provide capital, but most importantly, talent, relationships, and brain power. The managing team has extensive experience in company development and growth, private equity transactions, management and operation of venture capital funds, mergers, and acquisitions, launching startups and new business units, as well as strategic consulting and operational administration of multinational conglomerates.
About Angel Ventures
Founded in 2008, AV is one of the most active and influential Mexican VC firms in Latin America. The Firm invests in early-stage to early-growth companies by becoming a leading Series Seed and Series A investor in startups that drive innovative business models tailored for the Latin American market. We manage two investment funds (one in fundraising), and we strive to perform the best possible investments by attracting best-in-class entrepreneurs, applying exhaustive and progressive methodologies to assess opportunities and leveraging our intangible assets to boost our portfolio returns, all while being compliant with major global standards for VC practices.
AV is the official VC firm recognized by the four governments of the pacific alliance region (México, Colombia, Perú and Chile). The Company was awarded such recognition through a call of proposals organized by the Inter-American Development Bank in June 2016.
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Nov 25, 2020 • 39min
Entrepreneurship, Stand-up Comedy, & Investing – Eric Satz, Founder/CEO of AltoIRA
Miguel Armaza sits down with Eric Satz, Founder and CEO of AltoIRA, a company on a mission to help individuals in the US access and execute investments in alternative assets using their retirement savings.
We cover:
- Eric’s journey from investment banker, to coffee shop owner, to venture capitalist, to AltoIRA founder.
- What influenced him to pursue entrepreneurship throughout most of his life.
- Why he thinks this is now a great time to invest in private companies.
- The advantages of launching a fintech startup in Nashville, Tennessee.
- Why he thinks the only thing harder than fundraising for startup money is making somebody laugh and why he has so much respect for stand-up comedians.
- And much, much more!
Eric is also the host of his own podcast, The Altogether Show, which features unfiltered interviews with untraditional entrepreneurs who ignored boundaries and followed their instincts. https://altogether.show/
Eric Satz
An entrepreneur and former investment banker, Eric worked for DLJ/Credit Suisse First Boston before co-founding Currenex, Plumgood Food, and Tennessee Community Ventures, a VC firm. Eric served on the Board of the TVA from 2015-January 2019, and he teaches an entrepreneurship class to high school students. A Miami native and diehard 'Canes and Dolphins fan, Eric went to Amherst College. After years in NYC and then San Francisco, he and his wife moved to Nashville, her hometown, to raise their kids. When he's not breathing life into startup companies, Eric loves to ski, play soccer, and practice yoga.
About AltoIRA
AltoIRA is a financial technology company on a mission to help individuals access and execute investments in alternative assets using their retirement savings. The firm's cost-effective and hassle-free platform streamlines the process for investors, funding portals and issuers alike. Alto currently works with leading platform partners including AngelList, Wefunder and Masterworks, as well as financial advisors, funds and other direct issuers. Launched in 2018, the Nashville-based fintech firm is backed by leading investors including the family office of Tony James, Moment Ventures, Foundation Capital and the Sequoia Scout Fund. For more information, please visit www.AltoIRA.com
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