

Wharton FinTech Podcast
Wharton Fintech Podcast
Connecting you with the people, companies, and ideas revolutionizing global financial services. Our guests are the leading fintech founders, investors, and thinkers in the world.
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Jul 23, 2021 • 26min
Tosin Osibodu, CEO of Chaka - Building the African Robinhood
Miguel Armaza sits down with Tosin Osibodu, Co-Founder and CEO of Chaka, a Nigerian digital investment platform that is bringing access to trade over 4000 Nigerian and US stocks.
Tosin is a fintech veteran, serial entrepreneur and also a proud alum of our very own Wharton School.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Chaka’s journey and what it means to be the first Nigerian Fintech to receive a license by the Securities & Exchange Commission of Nigeria (SEC).
- Challenges and opportunities of building startups in emerging markets
- The amazing state of fintech in Africa and why these are the early days of a tech revolution
- Entrepreneurial lessons … and a lot more!
Chaka
Chaka is a technology solutions company on a mission to enable every business and person in Africa to access borderless digital investment and wealth management opportunities. The Chaka team combines investment expertise and best-in-class technology to provide reliable digital Investing, trading and wealth management solutions that are easy-to-use and easy-to-integrate.
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Jul 21, 2021 • 38min
Fabrice Grinda, Founding Partner at FJ Labs – Serial Entrepreneur & Investor in 700 Startups!
Miguel Armaza sits down with the legendary tech entrepreneur and venture capitalist, Fabrice Grinda, Founding Partner at FJ Labs, a stage-agnostic Venture Capital fund that focuses on marketplaces and consumer-facing startups.
Born and raised in France, Fabrice is amongst the world’s leading tech leaders.
As an investor, he has over 250 exits on almost 700 investments. With impressive investments such as Alibaba, Lending Club, Delivery Hero, Betterment, Klarna, Stripe, Palantir and Rappi.
As an entrepreneur, Fabrice co-founded OLX, one of the largest websites in the world with over 300 million unique visitors per month. Having previously founded Zingy and Aucland, two highly successful sites.
In this fun episode, we discuss:
- Fabrice’s fascinating background
- Investing during COVID - why FJ labs never stopped writing checks during the pandemic and why early-stage investing is actually better during crises
- FJ Labs’ investing strategy and the kind of team and company they look for
- Why he loves building and backing marketplaces
- Fintech trends and verticals Fabrice is excited about and some of the common traits he’s observed in successful fintech founders
- Investing mistakes and why he knew he was gonna regret passing on Uber… but did it anyway
- The exciting democratization and explosion of tech Latin America
- And a lot more!
Fabrice Grinda
Fabrice Grinda is among the world’s leading Internet entrepreneurs and investors. He has over 250 exits on 700 angel investments. Fabrice has served as CEO for three multinational companies and has an impressive track record as an early investor in Alibaba, Flexport, Delivery Hero, Betterment and Brightroll. Fabrice is currently running the startup studio and venture fund FJ Labs, which he cofounded with business partner Jose Marin. Fabrice was named the #1 Angel Investor in the world by Forbes
Prior to FJ Labs, Fabrice was co-founder and co-CEO of OLX, one of the largest websites in the world with over 300 million unique visitors per month. The company operates in 30 countries and has over 10,000 employees. OLX is the largest classifieds site in India, Brazil, Pakistan, Poland, Ukraine, Russia, Portugal and many other emerging markets.
Prior to OLX, Fabrice was the CEO and founder of Zingy, a mobile content company, which he grew to over $200 million in annual revenues and profitability in 4 years.
Fabrice started his entrepreneurial journey in 1998, at 23, when he co-founded and was CEO of Aucland. Soon after, Aucland grew into one of the largest auction sites in Europe.
Before his entrepreneurial endeavors, Fabrice worked as a management consultant for McKinsey & Company.
Fabrice holds a BA in Economics from Princeton University. He graduated Summa Cum Laude in 1996, and was awarded the Halbert White prize, given to the most distinguished economics student, as well as The Wolfe Balleisen memorial prize, awarded for best thesis. In his free time, Fabrice likes to travel the world, kitesurf, play tennis, and blog about his personal and professional life at www.fabricegrinda.com.
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Jul 19, 2021 • 29min
Adam Green, CEO & Co-Founder of YieldX - Democratizing Fixed Income Investing
Anirudh Singh sits down with Adam Green, co-Founder and CEO of YieldX. In this episode they discuss:
- Adam's experience at MoneyLion
- Founding something new at YieldX
- Lessons learned from growing during the pandemic
- Arbitraging Spice Girls concert tickets
And more!
Adam Green:
Adam Green is a technology innovator, founder and capital markets veteran. He is currently the CEO and co-Founder of YieldX, a breakthrough technology infrastructure that is reimagining fixed income. The company launched in October, 2020 and is helping institutional clients democratize fixed income access, analytics portfolio construction and optimization capabilities via an API-driven, modular technology platform. Prior to that, Adam was a co-Founder at MoneyLion. Founded in 2013, MoneyLion provides a mobile and financial membership platform that empowers users to take control of their personal finances.
In his work as a founder, Adam has collected deep experience in conceptualizing, funding, scaling and monetizing businesses, and providing executive leadership, strategic thinking and proven execution skills.
Prior to his time at MoneyLion, Adam spent the early part of his career in the investment banking space, with notable tenures at Bear Stearns, Credit Agricole and Citadel. He is a graduate of the Martin J Whitman School of Management at Syracuse University. Adam lives and works in Miami, Florida.
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Jul 16, 2021 • 21min
TechCrunch's Mary Ann Azevedo - Covering the Pulse of Fintech & Latin America's Tech Scene
Miguel Armaza sits down with the talented Mary Ann Azevedo, Senior Reporter at TechCrunch covering all things Fintech and Latin America Tech.
Mary Ann is a seasoned reporter, who’s been covering tech for 25 years! She’s seen and heard it all and this was a great conversation where we cover a ton of ground, including:
- Mary Ann’s writing and creative process
- Some of the biggest trends she’s seeing in the fintech space
- Managing the insane volume of industry news on a daily basis
- The main differences between US-based entrepreneurs and Latin American founders
- Have you ever wondered what goes behind the screen at Techcrunch HQ? We cover that too!
- Plus, tips and best practices to pitch a story to a reporter and some things you should absolutely avoid doing
- ... and a lot more!
Mary Ann Azevedo
Mary Ann Azevedo has more than 20 years of business reporting and editing experience for publications such as FinLedger, Crunchbase News, Crain, Forbes and Silicon Valley Business Journal. Prior to joining TechCrunch in 2021, she earned numerous awards including the New York Times Chairman’s Award and others for breaking news coverage. She holds a Master’s degree in journalism from the University of Texas in Austin, where she currently lives.
TechCrunch
TechCrunch, founded on June 11, 2005, is a global news website dedicated to the tech scene. The company provides breaking technology news, opinions, and analysis on tech companies from around the world. From publicly traded tech companies to emerging startups and venture capital funding rounds, TechCrunch is the number one guide for all things technology.
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Jul 14, 2021 • 37min
Powering The Alts Revolution with Leore Avidar, CEO of Alt !
Ryan Zauk sits down with Leore Avidar, CEO & Founder of Alt. Alt has created a marketplace for sports cards that authenticates its transactions & provides buyers with the peace of mind that the card they’re dropping thousands on is no fake!
Leore himself is a card collector and trader fanatic, having been deep in this asset class for years. Leore is also the CEO of Lob, a direct mail marketing & address verification API company on the path to going public. (Pretty good track record)
They cover:
- His journey from Wall Street, to tech, to entrepreneurship, & the Kobe card that sparked his journey
- How Alt works, how they verify cards, & the 3 key pillars of fraud they watch
- The crazy IRR Leore has reaped in this asset class
- His vision for the future of alt assets as stores of value & mediums of exchange
- The $31M round he raised from folks like Alexis Ohanian, Larry Fitzgerald, Founders of Coinbase & Blackrock, Darren Rovell, & Kevin Durant
- And much more!
Link: onlyalt.com
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Jul 12, 2021 • 30min
Kimwood Mott of the Central Bank of the Bahamas - Launching the First Nationwide CBDC
Anirudh Singh sits down with Kimwood Mott, project manager at the Central Bank of the Bahamas. In this episode they discuss:
- Kimwood's transition to the central bank
- The primary goals of the project including:
1. Increasing the efficiency of the Bahamian payments systems through more secure transactions and faster settlement speed.
2. Providing non-discriminatory access to payment systems without regard for age, immigration or residency status.
3. Achieving greater financial inclusion, cost-effectiveness, and access to financial services across all of The Bahamas.
4. Strengthening national defence against money laundering, counterfeiting, and other illicit ends by reducing the ill effects of cash usage.
- The impact that Hurrican Dorian and Covid-19 had on the project's rollout
And more!
Kimwood Mott:
Kimwood Mott has spent over 20 years in the banking and finance industries in both the retail and private banking sectors. He has an extensive background and experience in banking, information technology, and project management.
As the project manager for digital currency implementation, Kimwood is tasked with improving the domestic digital payments space and driving the national adoption of the Sand Dollar digital currency.
In addition to a wealth of knowledge and skills, Kimwood brings a unique perspective to the Sand Dollar project. As a small business owner, he recognizes the difficulties of our financial landscape and sees the potential and benefits of the Sand Dollar digital currency.
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Jul 11, 2021 • 44min
Mahmoud Abdelkader, CEO/Co-Founder of Very Good Security – Safeguarding the World’s Data
Miguel Armaza sits down with the inspiring Mahmoud Abdelkader, serial entrepreneur and CEO/Co-Founder of Very Good Security, a company that’s on a mission to protect the world’s information by providing essential security and compliance infrastructure for other businesses.
In this episode, we talk about:
- Mahmoud’s journey – moving from Egypt to New York City and how he found his love for entrepreneurship
- Launching Balanced Payments, his first startup over a decade ago, getting into Y Combinator and why every first time founder should try to go to YC
- Understanding Very Good Security’s mission to secure the world's information, and why they want to make data useful in the same way as money
- Challenges of unintended side effects of financial and privacy regulation and what Very Good Security is doing about it
- Getting comfortable with rejection and why you should never underestimate the hunger of immigrant entrepreneurs… And a lot more!
Mahmoud Abdelkader
Mahmoud Abdelkader is the CEO and co-founder of Very Good Security (VGS). He was previously CTO and co-founder of Balanced Payments (exited to Stripe). Prior to that, Mahmoud designed automated product matching systems at Milo.com (acquired by eBay) and built high-frequency trading systems for Wachovia Securities, now a part of Wells Fargo. With experience ranging from Wall Street to early-stage startups, Mahmoud is passionate about democratizing data security. He started Very Good Security to make best-in-class security and compliance attainable for businesses of all sizes.
Very Good Security
Very Good Security (VGS) is on a mission to secure the world’s information. Providing essential security and compliance infrastructure, VGS enables startups and enterprises to focus on their core business instead of compliance and regulatory overhead. VGS customers enjoy a Zero Data™ approach to information security, retaining the value of sensitive data without the cost and liability of securing it themselves. VGS Control accelerates compliances such as SOC 2, PCI, ISO 27001, GDPR, and more. For more information, visit verygoodsecurity.com.

Jul 9, 2021 • 47min
Chad Byers, Susa Ventures - Starting a VC, Robinhood's Seed Round, & A WFT Exclusive Announcement!
Ryan Zauk brings you a great episode today with Chad Byers, Partner & Co-Founder of Susa Ventures.
Susa is a sector-agnostic early-stage VC investing in areas like Enterprise Software, Fintech, Logistics, Healthcare, Consumer & Frontier Tech. Notable investments include Robinhood, Fast, Flexport, PolicyGenius, Okra, LendUp, Nova Credit, Railz, Treasury Prime, and Expanse.
Chad was named to the Forbes 30 Under 30 for VC in 2015. Prior to Susa Ventures, Chad was the senior director of platform at Integrate.com and held various marketing and product roles at Silver Spring Networks, Bloom Energy, and Electronic Arts.
They discuss:
- His unusual path to venture and the critical tools he used to become an incredible cold-emailer, meeting a16z’s Chris Dixon and BoxGroup’s David Tisch
- The wild story of turning a Jon Stewart taping into an internet phenomenon!
- Susa Ventures and the exciting, Wharton Fintech exclusive release of their upcoming opportunities fund (15:30)
- Critical advice for starting your first fund (or angel investments)
- His seed Robinhood investment, including the moment the lightbulb went off
- Fintech trends he's most excited ]for
- And much more!
Mentioned in the Episode:
Jon Stewart Tweet Thread: https://twitter.com/chadbyers/status/1273726486973804545?lang=en
Robinhood COO: https://bit.ly/3AGEHdi
Atom Finance CEO on PFOF: https://bit.ly/3hK0EzI
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Jul 6, 2021 • 36min
Anthony ‘Pomp’ Pompliano: Going All in On Bitcoin and Backing Industry-Changing Companies!
Ryan Zauk sits down with none other than Anthony “Pomp” Pompliano.
Anthony Pompliano is an entrepreneur and investor who has built and sold numerous companies, managing a portfolio valued at more than $500 million in early-stage companies. His investments include Coinbase, eToro, BlockFi, Airbnb, and many more.
He has a fantastic newsletter, podcast, and social platform anchored by his 1M+ followers on Twitter.
He is known for his extreme passion for bitcoin, having been a major part of the rallying cry of the last year. He has pushed his chips all in, allocating a huge portion of his portfolio to the asset! (or property…)
They cover:
- His bitcoin thesis, the "super cycle," and the events that got him so bullish
- Why Buffet and Munger disagreeing with him gives him more conviction
- How he thinks about generating outsized returns & his barbell capital allocation strategy
- His investments in startups like Strike and nearly kidnapping a founder
- The simple ways he’s grown such a massive following & influence
- And much more
Enjoy the show!
Discussed in the Episode:
Website (with most info): https://www.anthonypompliano.com/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/APompliano?s=20
Newsletter (180k+ subs): https://pomp.substack.com/
Mike Dudas: https://tinyurl.com/4c229whn
Simon Taylor: https://tinyurl.com/t994esjk
Wharton DeFi Paper: https://wifpr.wharton.upenn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/DeFi-Beyond-the-Hype.pdf
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Jul 2, 2021 • 39min
Amy Nauiokas, Anthemis CEO/Founder-Cultivating Change & Building Resiliency in the Financial System
Miguel Armaza sits down with the fascinating Amy Nauiokas, Founder and CEO of Anthemis, a Venture Capital firm founded in 2008 that aims to cultivate change in the financial system by investing in, growing, and sustaining businesses committed to resiliency, transparency, access and equity. Some of their most notable investments include Carta, Betterment, Pipe, Rally Rd, Simple, and Backstage Capital.
Amy is also Founder/CEO of Archer Gray, a media production and content company.
In this great conversation, we talk about:
- Amy’s journey and how she found herself making her first Venture Capital investments in Cameroon in the early 90s.
- Navigating Wall Street and why she eventually decided to leave big banks to launch Anthemis
- Fundraising from LPs in 2008 – a year when the financial industry collapsed but also a time with major technological innovations.
- Bridging the conversation between incumbents and startups.
- Backing models that transform and create resiliency inside of the financial system
- Their commitment to build the most diverse and inclusive team in Tech and Wall Street
- Anthemis’ Venture Studio strategy
- Fundraising reflections, leadership lessons as a VC founder… And a lot more!
Amy Nauiokas
Amy Nauiokas is Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Anthemis, the leading digital financial services investment firm, and Founder and CEO of Archer Gray, a media production and content company. She is a visionary executive, investor, producer and a recognized leader in innovation, strategy, and management across a variety of markets and industries.
As a venture capitalist, Amy identifies and invests in early stage technology companies focused on the disruption of media, financial services and marketplaces. She has built a strong investment portfolio of best-in-class, high growth companies. Current investments include Betterment, Trov, Happy Money and Currencycloud. Her exits include Flo Technologies, Zoopla, the UK’s leading property research website; Fidor Bank, acquired by BPCE in 2016; Simple, acquired by BBVA in 2014; and The Climate Corporation, acquired by Monsanto in 2013.
Amy received a master’s in international business from Columbia University, where she has also served as an Adjunct Professor in the business school, and received her BA in International Studies from Dickinson College.
About Anthemis
Anthemis cultivates change in our financial system by investing in, growing, and sustaining businesses committed to resiliency, transparency, access and equity. Founded on three guiding principles - authentic collaboration, virtuous cycle outcomes and diversity and inclusivity - our deep understanding of markets and models, passion for emerging technology and values inspire everything we do. By creating fertile ground for a diverse group of startups, investors, entrepreneurs, institutions, academics, and visionaries to converge, we believe we can solve the financial systems most pressing challenges faster, better and for the benefit of all. Visit www.anthemis.com for more information.
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