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Apr 5, 2023 • 36min
Dovi Frances - Founding Partner of Group 11 - Empowering Revolutionary Founders in the Early Stages
In today's episode, Josh Benadiva sits down with Dovi Frances from Group 11 to discuss the future of Fintech and Venture Capital. Josh and Dovi discuss how Dovi sees Fintech hitting an inflection point in the near future, how venture capital is ripe for disruption and more.
Dovi Frances is a financial services entrepreneur and the Founding Partner of Group 11, a venture capital firm based in Los Angeles, California. Over the course of his career, Frances has invested over $550 million in some of Silicon Valley’s most prominent and disruptive financial technology companies, including Tipalti, Navan (fka TripActions), Next Insurance, Papaya Global, HomeLight, Sunbit, Masterschool, EquityBee, Venn, and Lili to name a few.
Group 11 invests in revolutionary software companies that are redrawing the landscape of the financial services industry. As FinTech continues to gain momentum and to disrupt the traditional industry value chain, Group 11 has positioned itself as a partner of choice to provide capital and guidance to entrepreneurs that are creating the world’s next generation of financial services industry leaders.
Since its inception, the firm has deployed over $550 million in some of Silicon Valley’s most prominent and disruptive financial technology companies, including Tipalti, TripActions, Next Insurance, Papaya Global, HomeLight, Sunbit, Masterschool, EquityBee, Venn, and Lili to name a few.

Apr 3, 2023 • 31min
Kurt Lin, Co-Founder & CEO of Pinwheel — Creating a fairer financial system
Kailee Costello hosts Kurt Lin, CEO and Co-Founder of Pinwheel, a leading payroll connectivity API provider. Pinwheel’s mission is to create a fairer financial system, by enabling consumers to share their payroll and income data with financial institutions, which then use this data for direct deposit switching, income and employment verification, earned wage access, and more.
In this episode you will hear about:
- Pinwheel’s vision to help fintechs and financial institutions to build products that will lead to better financial outcomes for customers
- How Pinwheel’s API is currently being used for direct deposit and earned wage access, and what the next generation of use cases will look like
- Pinwheel’s survey insights on blindspots in the financial services industry
- How the current macroeconomic environment has increased the need for real-time payroll data
- Pinwheel’s “north star” metric, and key factors that have contributed to Pinwheel’s success
- Why Pinwheel brought on the former first-ever deputy director of the US Consumer Financial Protection Bureau as an advisor
- And much more!
About Kurt Lin
Kurt Lin is co-founder & CEO of Pinwheel, the leading payroll connectivity API. The son of two immigrant parents, Kurt saw how the lack of credit history created a greater struggle for them to access and secure financial products. This experience became a driving force for him and his co-founders to create Pinwheel. Prior to Pinwheel, Kurt has been involved in multiple startup acquisitions: first Idean and later with Luxe.
About Pinwheel
Pinwheel is the market-leading income and employment API. With Pinwheel, fintechs and financial institutions are empowered to build the next generation of financial products that will help create a fairer financial system. Pinwheel provides access to consumer-permissioned income & employment accounts and actionable insights that help them make sense of the data they need to tailor their tools and services for consumers. Fintechs and financial institutions leverage Pinwheel to power direct deposit switching, earned wage access, income & employment verification, and build innovative new products.
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Mar 30, 2023 • 51min
Cambrian - Rex Salisbury on investing in the Fintech commmunity
Andrew Janssens hosts Rex Salisbury, General Partner at Cambrian Ventures. Rex recently launched Cambrian, a solo-GP fund, after three years at Andreesen Horowitz establishing their Fintech team. In his last appearance on the podcast he talked about setting up the Cambrian fintech community (formerly Fintech Devs & PMs meetup).
Cambrian is a U.S fintech fund investing $500K non-lead checks in Fintechs at the pre-seed and seed level. The Cambrian community allows Fintech founders and operators to connect via their slack channel and regular activities such as bi-annual founder matching.
In today's episode we cover:
-The evolution of Fintech Devs & PMs into the Cambrian community
- Rex's investing philosophy
- Rex's fintech predictions for 2023
- And much, much more
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Mar 28, 2023 • 34min
Pushkar Mukewar, CEO & Co-Founder of Drip Capital - Simplifying trade finance for small businesses
Tarang Gupta hosts Pushkar Mukewar, CEO and Co-Founder of Drip Capital. Drip Capital is a California and India-based fintech company, focused on solving the working capital problem for SME exporters using tech.
In this episode you will hear about:
- Working capital challenges that SMEs face
- Differences in how financial services operate across the globe
- Starting up in emerging markets
- Value that an MBA added to Pushkar’s startup ambitions
And much more!
About Pushkar Mukewar
Pushkar is the Co-Founder and CEO of Drip Capital. In his 13-year career, Pushkar has worked across various geographies and has an in-depth understanding of the global financial services industry. Prior to starting Drip Capital, Pushkar was a venture capitalist at Saama Capital and was involved with several high-growth start-ups in India. He has also been a Consultant with Oliver Wyman and started his career at Capital One, developing credit risk analytics for the subprime consumer loans business. Pushkar holds an MBA degree from The Wharton School and an MS degree from the Georgia Institute of Technology.
About Drip Capital
Founded in 2015, Drip Capital is on a mission to make global trade easy and accessible for small businesses. Drip is using technology to re-build core parts of the international trade finance infrastructure and make the underwriting and financing of international B2B transactions seamless for small businesses.
Special Announcement
The 3rd Annual Wharton Fintech Conference scheduled for March 30 and 31, 2023. This year's lineup includes speakers from Greycroft, QED Investors, Ribbit, Visa, PayPal, Chime, Ripple, and more. Go to www.whartonfintechconference.com to get tickets!
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Mar 22, 2023 • 34min
Dee Choubey, Co-Founder & CEO of MoneyLion - Rewiring banking to make money more approachable
Tarang Gupta hosts Dee Choubey, CEO and Founder of MoneyLion. MoneyLion is an all-in-one finance app that gives consumers access to a comprehensive suite of products and personalized advice, making it more engaging to bank, borrow, save, invest, and grow.
In this episode you will hear about:
- Building a culture of innovation within an organization
- How to be successful in B2C vs B2B fintech
- Challenges of taking a fast growing private company public
- Why starting up is easier than it was a decade ago
- Where does crypto fit in consumer finance
And much more!
About Dee Choubey
Dee Choubey is the Co-Founder and CEO of MoneyLion. Prior to starting MoneyLion, Dee was an investment banker and had worked at Barclays, Goldman Sachs, and Citigroup; he also served as a Vice President at Citadel Securities. Dee holds a BA in Economics with Honors from the University of Chicago.
About MoneyLion
Founded in 2013, MoneyLion is a public company on a mission to rewire the American banking system to make money more approachable and to give consumers a more accessible and sustainable path to their goals.
Special Announcement
The 3rd Annual Wharton Fintech Conference scheduled for March 30 and 31, 2023. This year's lineup includes speakers from Greycroft, QED Investors, Ribbit, Visa, PayPal, Chime, Ripple, and more. Go to www.whartonfintechconference.com to get tickets!
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Mar 13, 2023 • 31min
Caesar Sengupta, Co-Founder & CEO of Arta Finance - Sharing the 'financial superpowers of the rich'
Kailee Costello hosts Caesar Sengupta, CEO and Co-Founder of Arta Finance. Arta is a digital family office that offers proprietary AI-Managed Portfolios and gives customers access to alternative asset investments such as private equity and real estate.
In this episode you will hear about:
- Arta’s mission to give more people access to the ‘financial superpowers of the rich’ and how Arta’s technology differs from other robo-advice and AI/ML personal finance offers
- Trust and transparency in financial investing
- Caesar’stransition from being a leader at a large tech company to founding a startup, and his advice for anyone looking to start a FinTech company
- Arta’s recent acquisition of Money Minx
- Trends impacting the personal finance sector
- Challenges and learnings from Ceasar’s experience leading Google Pay
- And much more!
About Caesar Sengupta
Caesar Sengupta is the co-founder and CEO of Arta Finance. Prior to Arta, Caesar was at Google, where he was the VP & GM of Payments & the Next Billion Users initiative. He led Google Pay, which went from 0 to over 175 million users in 5 years. He earned an MBA from the Wharton School and an MS in Computer Science from Stanford University.
About Arta Finance
Arta Finance is a digital family office that offers proprietary AI-Managed Portfolios and gives customers access to alternative asset investments such as private equity and real estate. Arta raised $90M Series A at the end of 2022.
Special Announcement
The 3rd Annual Wharton Fintech Conference scheduled for March 30 and 31, 2023. This year's lineup includes speakers from Greycroft, QED Investors, Ribbit, Visa, PayPal, Chime, Ripple, and more. Go to www.whartonfintechconference.com to get tickets!
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Mar 6, 2023 • 49min
F-Prime Capital - State of Fintech 2023
Josh Benadiva and Kailee Costello sit down with David Jegen and Abdul Abdirahman from F-Prime Capital to discuss the State of Fintech 2023 Report. Josh and Kailee discuss how David’s lengthy experience in FinTech has informed his perspective on the most recent business cycle, and hear from Abdul about how the Fintech Index got its start and much more.
F-Prime Capital is an independent venture capital group that grew from Fidelity Investments. They have been backing entrepreneurs building ground-breaking companies for over fifty years. F-Prime has more than $3B under management and has invested in companies from Alibaba and Prosper to Toast and Flywire.

Mar 3, 2023 • 37min
Neal Desai, CEO & Co-founder of Kafene - Enabling financial flexibility through lease-to-own
Tarang Gupta hosts Neal Desai, CEO & Co-founder of Kafene, a fintech company helping consumers with affordable lease-to-own options for furniture, appliances, electronics, tires, and more.
In this episode you will hear about
- What is lease-to-own (LTO) and how it is different from the BNPL model
- Challenges of disrupting and modernizing a legacy industry
- Difference between financing companies holding risk on balance sheets vs those that operate as a marketplace
- Not letting fear dictate one's decision making process
- Value that an MBA added to Neal’s entrepreneurial journey
And much more!
About Neal Desai
Neal Desai is the Co-Founder and CEO of Kafene. Before Kafene, Neal was the CFO at Octane Lending, a fintech unicorn. Neal also has almost 15 years of experience as a portfolio manager and a trader at companies like Alpine Partners, Summit Securities, and Merrill Lynch. Neal holds an MBA from the Wharton School and a B.A. from Princeton University.
About Kafene
Kafene is a Series B fintech startup that is a point-of-sale payment partner and underwriting technology platform helping retailers offer flexible lease-to-own (LTO) purchase options for prime and nonprime consumers.
Special Announcement
The 3rd Annual Wharton Fintech Conference scheduled for March 30 and 31, 2023. This year's lineup includes speakers from Greycroft, QED Investors, Ribbit, Visa, PayPal, Chime, Ripple, and more. Go to www.whartonfintechconference.com to get tickets!
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Feb 28, 2023 • 39min
Todd Schwartz, CEO & Founder of OppFi - Helping underbanked consumers gain access to credit
Tarang Gupta hosts Todd Schwartz, CEO, Executive Chairman, and Founder of OppFi, a fintech platform that helps everyday Americans gain access to credit with digital specialty finance products.
In this episode you will hear about
- How observing pawn shops inspired Todd to start OppFi
- OppFi's partnerships with incumbent banks to provide services to underserved consumers
- Alternate data analysis and how OppFi underwrites loans
- OppFi's special 'Turn-up' program to help borrowers find lower cost debt options
And much more!
About Todd Schwatz
Todd Schwartz is the CEO, Chairman, and Founder of OppFi. He is also a Principal at Schwartz Capital Group, a dynamic family investment business based in Chicago, IL, and a Partner at Strand Equity, a LA-based growth equity firm investing in consumer brands. Previously, Todd founded the multi-family real estate company Beach Coast Properties in California. He also holds a B.S. in finance from Tulane University.
About OppFi
Based in Chicago, OppFi provides a fintech platform to streamline the personal lending process and provide access for underserved borrowers and middle-income, credit-challenged consumers who do not qualify for traditional loan options.
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Feb 23, 2023 • 32min
Coatue - Michael Gilroy, Co-Head of Growth Investing and Head of Fintech on the State of Fintech
Andrew Janssens hosts Michael Gilroy, Co-Head of Growth Investing and Head of Fintech at Coatue. Coatue is a multi-stage technology investor across both private and public markets.
In this episode you will hear about:
- Michael's investing philosophy
- The State of Fintech in 2023
- Coatue's proposed "Rule of 200" for fintech investments
- And much, much more!
About Michael Gilroy
Michael is a thought leader in the fintech space, and recently co-published "Fintech & the Pursuit of the Prize" a widely-cited assessment of the Fintech space that was presented at last year's Money 20/20. Prior to Coatue, Michael was a Partner at Canaan, an early-stage VC fund.