
The Cloud Native Attitude
The Cloud Native Attitude is your go-to podcast for cutting through the jargon and unlocking the real potential of cloud native technology. Whether you’re a tech leader, developer, or business strategist, this show brings you clear, practical insights into how cloud native can drive innovation, scalability, and efficiency. Join us as we break down cloud native in a way that’s engaging, insightful, and—most importantly—useful. Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.
Latest episodes

Jun 18, 2025 • 18min
Bonus Episode: Gen AI Makes People Happier and Systems Unstable
In this bonus episode, Jamie is joined by Nathen Harvey, Developer Relations Engineer at Google Cloud and lead of the DORA (DevOps Research and Assessment) program, to dive deep into the surprising findings of DORA's report: Impact of Generative AI in Software Development.Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Brought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn

Jun 13, 2025 • 37min
Episode 8: The Sustainability Attitude
In Episode 8 of The Cloud Native Attitude, Jamie and Ian chat with tech author Anne Currie about how going green in the cloud isn’t just good for the planet, it’s good for your bottom line too. They explore why sustainability and cloud-native thinking go hand in hand, how to cut waste and costs in your data centre, and why the idea of cleaning your room applies to software too. Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Ian Miell - LinkedInBrought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn

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May 23, 2025 • 39min
Episode 7: Continuous Delivery
Dave Farley, a leading authority on continuous delivery and author of 'Continuous Delivery', dives deep into the evolution of CI/CD from the mid-1990s to today's cloud-native environments. He clarifies common misconceptions surrounding continuous integration and discusses how infrastructure became integral to the build process. With anecdotes like the rogue robot named Frank, he illustrates the importance of collaboration and data-driven approaches in modern software development, making a strong case for continuous delivery as the cornerstone of efficient engineering.

May 16, 2025 • 36min
Episode 6: The Mythical Blank Slate
In this episode of The Cloud Native Attitude, Jamie and Ian take on the myth of the “blank slate” - the idea that starting fresh will magically solve your software problems. Spoiler: it won’t. With insights and real-world examples, they explain why legacy systems aren’t just technical baggage but often valuable, misunderstood assets. They break down when (and if) it makes sense to start from scratch, how to spot unnecessary rewrites, and why experimenting before scaling is key. Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Ian Miell - LinkedInBrought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn

Apr 3, 2025 • 21min
Bonus Episode: Systems that Can’t Scale are Systems that Will Fail
In another bonus episode Jamie is joined by Allard Buijze, founder and CTO of AxonIQ. Jamie and Allard rewind the clock to the early days of Axon, uncovering how a frustration with system complexity sparked the creation of a framework now powering mission-critical systems around the world. They unpack the nuanced difference between “scalable systems” and “systems that scale,” explore the challenges of microservices, and reflect on the mindset shifts and organisational culture needed to succeed in today’s tech landscape.Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Ian Miell - LinkedInBrought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn

Apr 3, 2025 • 32min
Bonus Episode: From Borg to Kubernetes
In this bonus episode dropping in the midst of KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe, Jamie chats with Randy Shoup about all things Kubernetes. Randy dives into his time at Google and how Kubernetes evolved from their internal system, Borg. They get into the backstory of Kubernetes, how it changed the cloud game, and why open source matters more than ever. Plus, Randy shares some great career advice on staying curious and keeping up in a tech world that never slows down.Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Ian Miell - LinkedInBrought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn

Apr 3, 2025 • 39min
Episode 5: Microservices are the Architecture of Last Resort
In the fifth episode of The Cloud Native Attitude, Jamie and Ian sit down with Sam Newman. Sam is a renowned expert in cloud, continuous delivery, and microservices, and author of the upcoming book Building Resilient Distributed Systems (coming August 2025). Together, they unpack what microservices really are, when they make sense, and why jumping on the bandwagon without a clear purpose can cause more harm than good. Sam shares hard-earned lessons on how microservices can empower organisational autonomy, the communication challenges they introduce, and how to navigate the architectural trade-offs involved.The conversation also explores how microservices intersect with object-oriented programming and what capabilities teams need to succeed in this complex space. Whether you're scaling your system or just curious about the hype, this episode cuts through the noise with clarity and candour.Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Ian Miell - LinkedInBrought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn

Mar 28, 2025 • 53min
Episode 4: Gubernator -- Kybernetes -- Cybernetics -- Kubernetes
In the fourth episode of The Cloud Native Attitude, Jamie and Ian delve into the world of Kubernetes, exploring its origins, its role as an orchestrator, and its significance in the cloud computing landscape. They discuss the evolution of orchestrators, the impact of Kubernetes on development and operations, and provide insights into learning resources for those interested in mastering Kubernetes. The conversation emphasises the importance of understanding the underlying principles of technology and the value of hands-on experience in the learning process.Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Ian Miell - LinkedInBrought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn

Mar 21, 2025 • 36min
Episode 3: Docker Did to Apt what Apt did to Tar
In the third episode of The Cloud Native Attitude Jamie and Ian are joined by Adrian Mouat (author of Container Security and part of the team at Chainguard) for a deep dive into containers, security, and the hidden complexity of modern software supply chains.They get into why containers really took off (spoiler: it's not just about microservices), and how eliminating build variability can make or break a team’s ability to scale. Adrian shares what his team at Chainguard is doing to rethink container security from the ground up, plus some of the surprising ways vulnerabilities can sneak into even the most well-intentioned pipelines.Along the way, they swap stories from the early days of containers (floppy disks and zip drives make an appearance) and talk candidly about imposter syndrome. Turns out, even the people writing the books on security have felt it.Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Ian Miell - LinkedInBrought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn

Mar 14, 2025 • 44min
Episode 2: Diagnosing context
In the second episode of The Cloud Native Attitude, Jamie and Ian discuss the importance of context in cloud-native transformations. They break down how companies sometimes totally misread their own situations and what that means for their success (or failure). They introduce the idea of the 'electric maze' as a metaphor for navigating challenges in cloud computing, emphasising the need for a culture that embraces learning from failure. Along the way, they swap stories, share case studies, and explore key differences between startups and enterprises, how leadership shapes culture, and why scaling up isn’t just about tech. If you're into cloud-native, digital transformation, or just love a good tech conversation, this one’s for you!Visit Container Solutions where you can get your free sample chapter of The Cloud Native Attitude. Available to purchase on Amazon, Waterstones and WHSmith.Get in touch with us at podcast@container-solutions.com.Hosted by: Jamie Dobson - LinkedIn Ian Miell - LinkedInBrought to you by: Container Solutions - Website, LinkedIn