

Getting Smart Podcast
Getting Smart
This podcast has over 500 episodes highlighting developing trends in K-12 education, postsecondary and lifelong learning. Each week, Getting Smart team members interview students, leading authors, experts and practitioners in research, tech, entrepreneurship and leadership to bring listeners innovative and actionable strategies in education leadership.
Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.
Be sure to also check out GettingSmart.com to stay on the cutting edge of innovations in learning.
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Sep 7, 2022 • 50min
Belle Liang and Tim Klein on How to Navigate Life
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by Dr. Belle Liang, a professor of Counseling Psychology at Boston College, and Tim Klein, an award-winning urban educator, clinical therapist, school counselor and formerly served as the Chief Impact Officer at Project Wayfinder. Tim now works with Belle at the Purpose Lab. Both are also authors of the great new book How to Navigate Life: The New Science of Finding Your Way in School, Career, and Beyond.

Aug 31, 2022 • 34min
Abel McClennen on Place-Based Community Schools
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, it’s a family reunion! Nate McClennen is joined by Abel McClennen, the Director and one of the founders of La Paz Community School in Guanacaste, Costa Rica. A PK-12 school on two campuses with a mission to cultivate informed, mindful citizens of the world. Links: La Paz School Abel McClennen LinkedIn Ted Sizer David Rogers on Dual Language Enrollment

Aug 26, 2022 • 52min
Relationship Mapping: A Getting Smart Town Hall
This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is a part of our New Pathways campaign. In partnership with ASA, the Gates Foundation, Stand Together and the Walton Foundation, the New Pathways campaign will question education’s status quo and propose new methods of giving students a chance to experience success in what’s next. On the recent Getting Smart Town Hall, the team was joined by Julia Freeland Fisher (Clayton Christensen Institute), Edward DeJesus (Social Capital Builders, Inc.) and Tyler Thigpen (The Forest School) for a discussion of innovative approaches to mapping and analyzing students’ existing networks as a way to build more asset-based pathways.

Aug 24, 2022 • 36min
Bruno Manno on Opportunity to Rise and Social and Economic Mobility
This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is a part of our New Pathways campaign. In partnership with ASA, the Gates Foundation, Stand Together and the Walton Foundation, the New Pathways campaign will question education’s status quo and propose new methods of giving students a chance to experience success in what’s next. On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast Tom Vander Ark is joined by Bruno Manno, a veteran of education philanthropy and editor of a new collection of essays, The Opportunity to Rise: Rethinking K-12 Education Pathways to Social and Economic Mobility.

Aug 17, 2022 • 33min
Karla Phillips-Krivickas on Succeeding in Policy and Inclusive Education
This episode of the Getting Smart Podcast is a part of our New Pathways campaign. In partnership with ASA, the Gates Foundation, Stand Together and the Walton Foundation, the New Pathways campaign will question education’s status quo and propose new methods of giving students a chance to experience success in what’s next. On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Karla Phillips-Krivickas, CEO of Think Inclusion and member of the Arizona state education board in. Karla has spent 25 years leading policy work at KnowledgeWorks and ExcelinEd and is an expert in competency-based education. She also serves as an advisor to Getting Smart. Let’s listen in as they discuss Karla’s recent policy victories, what truly inclusive education means, Karla’s unique journey and much more.

Aug 10, 2022 • 33min
Lisa L. Lewis on The Sleep-Deprived Teen
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Nate McClennen is joined by Lisa Lewis, a freelance journalist who focuses on the intersection of parenting, public health, and education and recent author of The Sleep-Deprived Teen: Why Our Teenagers Are So Tired, and How Parents and Schools Can Help Them Thrive. Let’s listen in as they discuss the problem with the school schedule, research and science around sleep and getting work done at the policy level. Links The Sleep-Deprived Teen: Why Our Teenagers Are So Tired, and How Parents and Schools Can Help Them Thrive Lisa L. Lewis Start School Later’ Lisa Lewis Twitter

Aug 3, 2022 • 36min
Dr. Valerie Truesdale, Dr. David Miyashiro and Dr. Kelly Niccolls on Next Generation School Leaders
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Dr. Valerie Truesdale, the Assistant Executive Director of AASA, the Superintendents Association; and Dr. David Miyashiro, Superintendent of Cajon Valley Unified School District and Dr. Kelly Niccolls Teaching and Learning Asst. Director, Secondary at Cheney School District to discuss next generation school system leadership. Together they cover: What skills are required today? Who is the next generation of school leaders? What matters to them? Links: AASA Cajon Valley Unified School District Cheney School District Previous town hall with David Myashiro Previous podcast with Valerie Truesdale Decolonizing Education by Kelly Niccols

Jul 29, 2022 • 34min
Dr. Michael Conner on the Disruptive Excellence Framework
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by Dr. Michael T. Conner, CEO/Founder of the Agile Evolutionary Group. Dr. Conner served as Superintendent of Schools (Middletown, CT), Chief Academic Officer (Norwalk, CT), Assistant Superintendent of Teaching and Learning (Willimantic, CT) and Principal of Augusta Lewis Troup School (New Haven, CT). He is the creator and architect of the Disruptive Excellence Framework. Links: Agile Evolution Group Dr. Michael Conner Twitter Dr. Michael Conner LinkedIn Thomas Siebel - Digital Transformation What’s Next - Clay Christensen Atul Gwande

Jul 27, 2022 • 28min
Kaya Henderson on Reconstruction and Identity Affirming Curriculum
On this episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, Tom Vander Ark is joined by the phenomenal Kaya Henderson. Kaya is the CEO of Reconstruction, a edtech company that delivers k-12 courses that situates Black people, culture, and contributions in an authentic, identity-affirming way. Kaya is a career educator, starting as a middle school Spanish teacher in the South Bronx with Teach for America. Kaya has been a leader in DC for 20+ years, first with TFA, then TNTP and then a decade at DCPS. She co-hosts the popular podcast Pod Save the People, with DeRay McKesson. Let’s listen in as they discuss representation, hosting a podcast and the importance of culturally responsive pedagogy. Links: LinkedIn Pod Save the People

Jul 20, 2022 • 47min
Getting Smart on Approximately 400 Podcast Episodes
On this special episode of the Getting Smart Podcast, producer Mason Pashia is joined by Tom Vander Ark and Shawnee Caruthers to celebrate the approximately 400th episode of the Getting Smart Podcast. They discuss why Getting Smart started a podcast in the first place, run through a quick lightning round of favorite moments and laugh a lot. Episodes mentioned in the episode: Dr. Roberta McFarland on The Magic of Outdoor Education Joe Erpelding on Magical Schools and Thrively EduCatered: Ululani Shiraishi 100 Days of Conversation Project and The Importance of Community Agreements Chris Emdin on STEM, STEAM, Make Dream Summit Tech Academy on Learning Pathways Immokalee High School on Entrepreneurship and Projects That Serve Community Embark Education on Embedding Learning in Business Jamie Merisotis on Human Work in the Age of Smart Machines Clifton Taulbert on Habits of the Heart Timothy Jones on HipHopEd and Techniques4Learning Erin Jones on Stories and Strategies for Racial Healing Dr. Trish Scanlon on How Voice Technologies Should Work For Kids Dr. Angela Duckworth on Developing Character The Future of Learning with Dr. Pamela Moran, Byron Sanders and Dr. Ed Hess Stephanie Krauss on Readiness, Opportunity, and The Right to a Decent Life Michelle Weise on Long Life Learning Chelsea Craig and Dr. Anthony Craig on Indigenous Ways of Knowing and Leading