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Mass Mutual, a top life insurance company and heavily relied upon insurance carrier in the Infinite Banking space, recently came out with a memo to their agents against the Infinite Banking Concept. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFhcV4Kp1yg They shared that the company doesn’t support concepts that promote or present whole life insurance as a personal banking policy, prioritizing the maximization of policy cash values and immediate and regular access via policy loans. [paraphrased] Today, we’ll talk about why an insurance provider may choose to take this position, why this doesn’t impact the Infinite Banking Concept, and how you, as a wise financial steward and wealth creator, can ensure you’re making the best decisions. So, if you’re considering Infinite Banking, and you want to see exactly what you should watch out for … tune in now! Table of contentsWhy Would Mass Mutual Denounce Infinite Banking?Combating MisinformationWhat Does This Mean for the Future of Infinite Banking?What Should You Be Aware of About Infinite Banking?Sales Tactics vs. Education and DisclosureBeware of Transactional RelationshipsRecognize that Illustrations are Projections, Not PredictionsKnow You’re Buying Life InsuranceBook A Strategy CallFAQsIs Infinite Banking still a valid strategy?Why would an insurance company limit the language around Infinite Banking?What’s the deal with Mass Mutual and infinite banking?Can I still use policy loans for personal investments or expenses? Why Would Mass Mutual Denounce Infinite Banking? When a company shoots down the infinite banking concept, what they’re really doing is denouncing the use of oversimplified sales tactics in the sale of whole life insurance. In other words, Mass Mutual and other companies have an interest and a duty to make sure that life insurance remains life insurance. That means that the death benefit remains the purpose of a life insurance policy.  This doesn’t mean people can’t use whole life insurance to save money and take policy loans, especially considering how closely tied Mass Mutual and infinite banking have historically been. In fact, life insurance companies legally must allow policy loans as a contractual provision—they’re not going anywhere. Insurance companies like Mass Mutual are simply taking a stance against practices that may indicate life insurance is not performing first and foremost, as life insurance should.  This statement is about the integrity of the industry, not about IBC in general. Combating Misinformation There’s a lot of misinformation about infinite banking policies, both within the IBC community and outside of it. One of the major problems within the industry is that advisors are trying to make whole life insurance look better than it is. And to be clear: whole life insurance is a very good product. But it’s not magic. The problem arises when people attempt to spread information that makes it seem magical.  It’s unfortunate when clients purchase a whole life insurance policy only to be blindsided by how life insurance actually works. We’ve heard many a horror story about how clients didn’t know their policy loans counted against their death benefit if they didn’t pay it back. Or they believed that the cash value was unrelated to the death benefit. Many clients are also misled about how life insurance is taxed. It’s critical that companies like Mass Mutual take a stand against this misinformation to protect consumers. This is, first and foremost, the priority of the life insurance companies, as it should be. Hopefully, this will encourage more agents to take IBC seriously, thereby preventing the spread of misinformation. [21:30] “The problem is [that] this muddies the water. It makes it difficult for consumers to figure out well who do I actually listen to. Who is telling me the right information? How am I going to get a policy that lasts? How am I going to make sure this is set up properly,

You have heard of the Seven Deadly Sins: pride, greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath, and sloth. Each is a natural human weakness that impedes happiness. In addition to these vices, however, there are economic sins as well. And they, too, wreak havoc on our lives and in society. They can seem intuitively compelling, yet they lead to waste, loss, and forgone prosperity. James Otteson, the John T. Ryan Professor of Business Ethics at the University of Notre Dame, is the author of Seven Deadly Economic Sins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxZ8_rxEbyI In this thoughtful and compelling book, James Otteson tells the story of seven central economic fallacies. He explains why believing in these fallacies leads to mistakes and loss, and how to avoid costly errors. This, ultimately, enables us to live in peace and prosperity. Today, on the podcast, we discuss: What economists agree about Why wealth creation is positive-sum, not zero-sum How market economies have enabled more prosperity than any other system of economics Why business can be moral and honorable If you want a conversation about economics, philosophy, and how nations prosper… tune in now! Table of contentsFrom Philosophy to EconomicsTeaching Business EthicsWho is James Otteson’s Seven Deadly Economic Sins For? Is Wealth a Zero Sum?The Morality of BusinessAbout James OttesonOtteson at Notre DameBook A Strategy Call From Philosophy to Economics In the blink of an eye, James Otteson found his path changed from medicine to philosophy, thanks to a required college course. [7:40] “I thought if you went to college, you should either become a medical doctor or a lawyer. I thought those were the two things you became. So I was going to be a medical doctor, and I just happened to take a course that I was required to take, that was taught by a Classics professor… It led me into the great books program at Notre Dame.” He notes that when he was in grad school in Chicago, one of his philosophical heroes was David Hume. In particular, he wanted to write his thesis on Hume’s moral theory. His research eventually led him to Adam Smith and his book, The Theory of Moral Sentiments, which was a pivotal moment in Otteson’s career and became the new subject of his dissertation. What he discovered was that very few people had really written on or responded to Smith’s book, and Otteson viewed it as an untapped well. It was Smith's ideology on morals that sparked Otteson's initial interest in the economy and politics. Teaching Business Ethics After teaching courses on the history of economic thought for some time, Otteson was asked to teach a course on business ethics. When working on the course and how he would approach it, Otteson learned there was very little consensus on how a business ethics course ought to go.  [11:41] “I thought it might be more interesting and maybe more productive, if instead of just looking at all the ways that business could go wrong, instead turning it around a little bit and asking: “Is there some kind of moral purpose that a life in business could actually serve?”  By reframing the class slightly, he could have students think through whether it is possible to be fully engaged in a business and also be a virtuous person.  Who is James Otteson’s Seven Deadly Economic Sins For?  James Otteson’s research heavily influenced his latest book, Seven Deadly Economic Sins. The book was written with an intelligent audience in mind, specifically, those who are not economists yet are interested in working well within the existing economy.  [14:10] “We all have our opinions about politics. But we also, many of us, have very strong opinions about economic matters even though, curiously, many of us have not studied economics.” So while everyone may have an opinion about something like minimum wage, not everyone has read the academic literature on the topic. And in fairness, as Otteson shares,

Why do top banks own billions of dollars of cash-value life insurance, if Dave Ramsey and Suze Orman say it's such a bad idea? Today, we're looking into bank financials at a little-known, highly desirable asset banks use as a Tier 1 Capital Asset to increase their financial strength. We're talking about bank-owned life insurance, or BOLI. https://youtu.be/7gqAiiHQLXI We’re going to lay to rest the fallacy that this type of insurance is such a terrible investment,  and explain exactly why the most successful financial institutions in the world are pouring billions into it. So, if you want to fortify your finances and increase your stability through economic turbulence … tune in now to find out about becoming your own banker with the Infinite Banking Concept! Quick Takeaways What you'll discover: Why the smartest money managers in the world are pouring billions into life insurance while financial gurus tell you it's a bad idea The staggering amounts banks actually own - numbers that will make you question everything you've been told about life insurance What banks did during the 2008 crisis that should change how you think about protecting your wealth How to copy what banks do and apply their strategies to your personal finances Why banks choose life insurance over other investments when they could put money anywhere How to become your own bank using the same wealth-building principles as billion-dollar institutions Table of contentsWhat Is BOLI?How BOLI WorksWhat About COLI?Why BOLI Is So EffectivePredictable Asset with Regulatory ApprovalHigh Cash Value Accumulation and StabilityHow Much Do Banks Actually Own?What Banks Did During the Financial CrisisWhat Individuals Can Learn from BOLILearn How to Use Life Insurance Like a Bank What Is BOLI? BOLI stands for Bank Owned Life Insurance, and while it’s widely available knowledge, it’s not widely understood. So why would banks want to own life insurance, and what does it do for those institutions?  Banks really didn’t own life insurance until about 1994. In large part, banks take life insurance policies out on their key employees. This doesn’t just give the banks an additional place to store and grow capital securely. The death benefit also provides the banks with a means to train a replacement in the event of that employee’s death. In fact, even the cash value is useful in allowing the banks to prepare for a key employee to retire. This is how banks have “insurable interest” in their employees.  But banks don’t just take out these policies on their employees, either. Banks have actually started group policies on the bank's customers who have loans with the bank. This means that if a customer died, the death benefit would pay for any outstanding loans.  Banks are great at protecting their money. They see the value in having their money over-collateralized in order to protect it.  If that is something that this institution is doing, why shouldn’t you be doing it in your own life? Banks didn't stumble into this strategy by accident - they discovered what wealthy families have known for generations. How BOLI Works Boli isn’t some sort of experimental strategy. This is how the smartest money managers in the world protect and grow capital. Let's say a bank has a key executive making $200,000 a year. The bank takes out a $1 million life insurance policy on that executive, pays the premiums, and owns the policy. Year one: The bank pays a $20,000 premium. Nearly all of it goes into cash value immediately, with full liquidity from day one. That cash value earns a competitive, tax-advantaged return. Year five: The cash value has grown significantly. The bank can borrow against it if it needs capital for operations or lending.. Year ten: The executive retires. The bank still owns a growing asset with even higher cash value and a $1 million death benefit,

So you’ve decided to buy a specially designed whole life insurance policy. You’re working with the right advisor, you have an excellently designed policy. But one day you think: How do I become the best banker I can and use my policy to its fullest potential? To get the most out of your IBC policies, you must follow Nelson Nash’s 5 Rules of IBC. Here to unpack these 5 principles for IBC is David Stearns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v177xxW5c4M David Stearns is Nelson’s son-in-law and president of Infinite Banking Concepts, LLC. He is carrying on Nelson’s legacy both professionally and personally. If you want to learn from the best, this is as close to the source as you can get… so tune in now! Table of contentsContinuing Nelson Nash’s LegacyThe Evolution of the Nelson Nash InstituteHow to Find an IBC PractitionerDavid Stearns Shares The 5 Rules of IBCThink Long-RangeDon’t Be Afraid to CapitalizeDon’t Steal the PeasDon’t Do Business with BanksRe-think Your ThinkingBonus: Be Prepared for WindfallsAbout David StearnsBook A Strategy Call Continuing Nelson Nash’s Legacy Nelson Nash was the innovative creator of the Infinite Banking Concept and the Author of Becoming Your Own Banker. Now, IBC and the Nelson Nash Institute continue to educate people about IBC and how life insurance can play an instrumental role in personal finance. The company is now headed by David Stearns, Nelson’s son-in-law, who we have the pleasure of speaking with today.  David joins us today to share the 5 Rules of IBC that Nelson shared, and how he interprets them today. [22:30] “Whole life insurance is not glamorous–okay, number one. Number two, it’s hard work because you’ve got to make the effort to build your portfolio over the years.” The Evolution of the Nelson Nash Institute Nelson Nash saw IBC as a way for people to get their money out of Wall Street, and have greater safety, liquidity, and leverage. Nelson was so passionate about IBC that even at the age of 85 he was doing dozens of seminars a year, teaching people about IBC.  These seminars were hosted by insurance agents and other financial professionals all over the country. They’d hire Nelson and fly him out, and he’d share his wealth of knowledge with whoever was in the room. But, according to David, no one ever really asked the question: what are people doing with this information?  Because the reality was, people were applying the information to the wrong life insurance products. Or, agents were sending non-selling associates to listen to the information. There were just too many instances of the IBC message being watered down or twisted into something it wasn’t. But, they were still using Nelson’s name. That’s when David Stearns and a few others got together and decided that it would be critical to the future of IBC to implement a standard. That standard would become what is the Nelson Nash Institute and the IBC Practitioner Program, which was meant to hold advisors accountable to the information Nelson offered.  This would ensure that advisors couldn’t co-opt Nelson’s message, nor morph it into something that it isn’t meant to be.  How to Find an IBC Practitioner If you are ever interested to know whether or not you’re working with or connecting with an IBC practitioner, there’s a database you can check. The IBC Practitioner database is extremely useful in verifying who has been through the training and whether they are adhering to the rules and standards of IBC.  The benefit of working with someone who is in the program or completed it is that you can be sure of their character. An IBC Practitioner will have all the values that Nelson Nash and IBC have shared and cultivated. Those in the program also get the benefit of working with other Practitioners to boost their knowledge and skills. This ensures that the training is solid and standardized.  The fundamentals of IBC are critical to the success of an agent and their client...

Want tax-free retirement income? Tax-free money in retirement sounds amazing… at first glance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mylXCXThFl0 But before you dive into this strategy, there are three things you need to know about why “Tax-Free Retirement” is a really bad idea. To find out exactly why you shouldn’t set up your financial game plan for tax-free retirement… tune in now! Table of contentsSetting FrameworksWhat is Tax-Free Retirement?“Don’t Let the Tax Tail Wag the Dog”Retirement is a Concept that Needs FixingHow to Change RetirementSo Why Shouldn’t You Do Tax-Free Retirement?Why Tax-Free Income is Not the Best First SolutionLife Insurance is InsuranceBook A Strategy Call Setting Frameworks When you’re presented with a certain lens or framework, it’s important to step back and consider:  Where is the information coming from? Who does this benefit?  What are the other options? These questions can go a long way in helping you determine whether a strategy is a good fit for you, whether it has merit, and how you should approach it.  The idea of tax-free retirement using whole life insurance is popular. Just the name alone makes it sound amazing. So why wouldn’t someone want to implement it? Keeping the above questions in mind, we’re going to unpack the nuances of this approach so that you can use that information to better your strategy. What is Tax-Free Retirement? The general idea of tax-free retirement is that you have set up a whole life insurance policy for maximum cash value growth that you can use for retirement income. The strategy suggests that after maximally funding a policy, you can choose to retire and use that cash value for retirement income. You use a certain formula to determine how much you can withdraw each year over a certain timeframe (instead of borrowing against it) without creating a taxable event.  The premise is that by saving into a whole life insurance policy, you can pull an income from your policy without paying taxes. And while this is true, there are certain disadvantages that people don’t often consider or discuss.  “Don’t Let the Tax Tail Wag the Dog” This concept comes from Garrett Gunderson, author of Killing Sacred Cows.  [14:10] “He talks about how you cannot ever make all of your financial decisions on the basis of, ‘How do I pay the least amount of tax?’ If you’re just looking at taxes, that’s a lens being put in front of your eye [saying], ‘Here’s the most important thing.’ Really, there’s not one most important thing; there’s a lot of factors that you need to consider.” When you only make financial decisions out of the fear of paying taxes, you’re acting from a place of scarcity. The scarcity mindset doesn’t serve you, because it prevents you from seeing other options or strategies that may be even better for you, depending on the purpose of your dollars. If you want to leave a large legacy to your children, but you choose a “tax-free retirement” strategy out of fear, you run the risk of disinheriting your children. This, of course, is not the outcome you want if you’re aiming for a legacy. So it’s important not to let fear dictate the lens through which you take financial action. Retirement is a Concept that Needs Fixing Let’s consider the typical retirement paradigm. Generally, you work from about age 20 or so until you’re somewhere between 60 and 70. In all of those working years, you work as hard as possible to make as much as possible. And hopefully, you save as much as possible. Then, when you’re ready to retire, you stop working completely and live off of what you’ve saved. You probably intend to continue living life at the same level of comfort and quality, so you take about the same income that you made when you had a job.  Unfortunately, many people only save about 10-20% of their income. But, they still want to live at 100% of what they’re used to. This means retirees are going through their money...

How does whole life insurance work out over the years? Today, we're looking at a real-world case study of someone with basic whole life insurance policies that have become very productive and efficient assets when held and used long-term.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0tsSgckpTY We'll discuss how policies for self, spouse, young kids, and future grandchildren work together. In particular, we'll see how the newest policies in Tom's family banking system have turned a corner. Now, they're accumulating more cash value than the cost of annual premiums. He then used these dollars to invest in cash-flowing assets that help fund the policies. We'll explore how you can establish policies for future grandkids to begin legacy planning. You'll learn how to use life insurance as a foundational piece of your kid's and grandkids' financial lives. If you want to see how Infinite Banking can work for your family ... tune in now! Table of contentsHow Tom Found Infinite BankingFirst Thoughts On Opening a Life Insurance PolicyHow Tom Feels About His Life Insurance Policy NowThe Power of Having Policies on Your ChildrenSelf-Sustaining PoliciesTom’s Family Banking SystemConnect with Tom SuvansriAbout Tom SuvansriBook A Strategy Call How Tom Found Infinite Banking [5:45] “The concept of infinite banking wasn’t talked about [when I started my whole life policy]...it was just a long-term savings vehicle that protects you from these bad things that could happen.” Tom shares that when he started his policy, he didn't even know about leveraging cash value. No one was talking about it. He was just aware that it was a suitable tool for saving money and protecting income. The knowledge about infinite banking came later.  Fortunately, Tom had the experience of those before him to draw on. His father had some universal life insurance that imploded, so they both knew to stay away from that structure of life insurance in the future. [6:48] “It’s just one of those sad stories, but you know, that was something that stuck with me. And so we got into talking around just a permanent whole life policy, right? From a mutual insurance company. Which, I didn’t understand what that meant at the time.” First Thoughts On Opening a Life Insurance Policy [12:46] “I think things through pretty deeply, and it took me a while to even get to there—to accept and get a policy. And I did initially, as I got into the first year or two when there was no cash, [feel skeptical]. I saw that, and it did sort of strike me as, ‘Did I do the right thing?’ I was a little concerned.” Tom opened this policy in 2003 and on top of still having his policy and benefitting from it, he now helps other people to implement Infinite Banking strategies. What helped him through these early years was to remind himself that it was a long-term product and that his results would not be overnight.  There’s a major mental hurdle to overcome because so many life decisions are short-term. We have to think and decide quickly, and expect to see quick results. But life insurance is a different beast. It’s something that takes time, and while you’re in the early stages it can be difficult to be patient. However, five to ten years down the line, you’ll be thanking your past self.  How Tom Feels About His Life Insurance Policy Now [14:25] “It’s so funny, I was kind of joking with my wife about [our policies]. Because every time I get an annual statement come through saying your premium is due, some people think of it like a bill. I’ll tell you, I give it a hug because I know what it’s done for us and our families. It’s secured so much for us over these years, and what it will do in the future—like I cannot wait to contribute to it.” Another added benefit of having a policy for 19 years is that as inflation impacts the value of a dollar, premiums actually feel like less. Premium payments are fixed payments, so inflation actually has the reverse effect on...

The podcast explores the factors to consider when deciding if someone is ready for infinite banking. They discuss the importance of protecting income and having good saving habits. They explain why infinite banking is not considered an investment but a strategy with guarantees. They also talk about the mindset and qualities needed to start an infinite banking policy, such as having an abundance mindset and making long-term decisions for generational wealth.

Want to be more successful in your life and business, gain more recognition and respect, create more impact, accomplish your goals, reach financial targets, increase your income, and raise happy kids? Then it’s time you found a secret hidden in the timeless Jewish practice of Mussar, as shared by Ruchi Koval. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQcMsQdidDQ It’s not where we usually start.  We look for strategies, scripts, tools, and tricks to beat the odds and get there faster. But today, motivational speaker, coach, and author of Soul Construction, Ruchi Koval shares the real keys to success that are found much deeper... by developing character.   So, if you want to become financially successful, then be prepared for a challenging, growing conversation that will help you have the right relationship with money… tune in now! Table of contentsWhat is Mussar?Why Does Character Development Matter?Money Doesn’t Define YouCharacter Development is a Lifelong ProcessConnect with Ruchi Koval About Ruchi KovalBook A Strategy Call What is Mussar? [5:12] “I was basically raised on the precepts of Mussar, from the time I was little enough to speak. So Musar is a concept of ethical character development… Throughout the generations, people have been asking themselves, ‘How can we make faith relevant to the next generation?’ One of the answers that came forth in the 1800s was this concept of Mussar, which had been in existence, but kind of latent—that a primary path to spirituality could be focusing on our character traits.” Before this, there were other popular schools of thought about how to achieve spirituality in the Jewish faith. It was Rabbi Yisroel Salanter who really brought this thinking to the forefront and inspired the Mussar movement. The Rabbi who founded the school that Ruchi attended was the son of a Mussar master. The character traits in question include things such as patience, kindness, joy, and humility. Ruchi also highlights that it’s also important to work on controlling your anger or allowing people to have their way.  [6:38] “That was as Jewish as charity and traveling to Israel and, you know, observing the Sabbath.” Why Does Character Development Matter? [8:43] “I believe that ancient Jewish wisdom is universal. That means that it can apply to anyone. That’s why this book that I wrote—Soul Construction—is not just targeted for Jews. It’s targeted for anybody, because I do believe that it’s universal wisdom. The point of Mussar is really self-transformation, but it definitely affects everybody around us.” Part of Mussar that Ruchi shares is to have your character traits in balance. Anything to an extreme, on either end of the spectrum, is unhealthy. For example, you must have generosity in balance. You want to tithe and be generous, but you also want to keep some of that money so you can do more with it and better your family. Ambition, too, can be a good thing, unless taken too far. Then, it becomes greed.  Keeping your character traits in balance not only allows you to be more spiritual, but it can also help you in your pursuit of certain things, like abundance. [11:55] “If I can get my character traits in balance, then my pursuit of money could be something that is fulfilling for me and my family, and will create harmony and not discord.  Money Doesn’t Define You [17:10] “So ancient Jewish wisdom actually teaches that money doesn’t define you… How much you have of it doesn’t define you at all.” In fact, Judaism recognizes wealth as a blessing from God. So earning a certain dollar amount cannot define you. It’s your attitude toward what you have and what you choose to do with it that defines you. If you’re generous, humble, and grateful, that speaks volumes no matter your income. It also speaks volumes if you’re miserly, snobbish, and conceited.  If you’re concerned about having entitled children because you’re leaving an inheritance,

The podcast discusses the multigenerational benefits of Infinite Banking, the concept of a family bank for perpetual wealth, and how to make Infinite Banking infinite. It also explores the importance of whole life insurance, the economic value of certainty in Infinite Banking, and the history and benefits of the concept. Tune in to learn how to increase opportunities and create lasting wealth.

For an intended multigenerational family business to last past the first generation, the family must become a successful team. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuQR8NBc2JY Professor, organizational consultant, family therapist, and family business consultant Dr. Dennis Jaffe joins us today. He has helped families overcome challenges that impede successfully transferring businesses, wealth, value, commitments, and legacies across generations. So, if you want to create a multigenerational family enterprise… tune in now! Table of contentsWhy Should Families Think Multi-Generationally?What Can History Teach Us About the Multigenerational Family Business?When Do You Bring Kids Into the Family Business?The Challenge of First-Generation WealthWhat is the Best Way to Create a Multigenerational Family Business?Connect with Dr. Dennis JaffeAbout Dr. Dennis JaffeBook A Strategy Call Why Should Families Think Multi-Generationally? [3:40] “There’s no ‘should’ about it. This is what families are concerned about—they’ve created wealth, been successful, they’ve providing for their family, they’re creating more wealth than they can use on a day-to-day basis, and they have young people growing up. And they begin to say, ‘Well, what’s going to be my legacy?’ And they begin to ask the question—not how do I get more wealth—-but what is the purpose of our wealth? What do we want to do with it?” Dr. Jaffe has noticed that as families build wealth, they think more seriously about what that wealth will do beyond them. And this consideration is critical because it’s how wealth lasts for generations. You can’t simply build up wealth, you also have to create systems, educate your kids and grandkids, and pass on your values so that the generations beyond you will know how to be good stewards of your money.  What Can History Teach Us About the Multigenerational Family Business? Dr. Dennis Jaffe has been in the field of family business and wealth since the early 80s. And over time, this industry has really evolved to include family meetings, family constitutions, and much more beyond just getting advice from a financial advisor. What Dr. Jaffe has done is interview and compile information from wealthy and successful families. A successful family, as Dr. Jaffe defines it, is a family that has kept and maintained its wealth for at least three generations. After all, these are the families who have done a good job of educating the next generation on how to build and keep wealth. Successful families are also families who spend time together and have a sense of connection.  [12:10] “What I found is that these hundred-year families had a great sense of their legacy and history. They could look back for the fifth generation and say, ‘Well, you know, grandpa did this.’ Or, ‘One of the things that grandpa did that really made a difference for us is this…’” This research proves helpful because it doesn’t suggest a singular path to wealth. Instead, it illustrates many paths and options for building and sustaining wealth. And behind it all is a sense of family history—that each generation can learn from the ones before. When Do You Bring Kids Into the Family Business? As important as it is to look to the past for guidance on sustaining wealth, it’s just as important to keep tabs on the future. After all, your children and your children’s children are the future of your legacy. They’re the ones who will carry the torch, so it’s important to prepare them to inherit the family’s wealth and continue that legacy.  [19:11] “So, one of the first things that I learned is that the older generation has to really listen to the next generation because they have a very unclear and unrealistic idea about the future. Because they see it from their own eyes and their own experience. They don't really understand the experience of their kids, the people that their kids marry, and their kid’s kids.