

Learning Unboxed
Annalies Corbin & NOVA Media
We hear, frequently, that the global education system is broken, and as a result, we spend billions of dollar trying to fix it. But the K-12 system isn’t actually broken at all – it’s working exactly as it was designed, 100 years ago, and it’s obsolete. So in Learning Unboxed, we will have a conversation about teaching, learning, and the future of work; we will reimagine, rethink, and redesign our educational system.
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May 26, 2025 • 34min
BONUS. Learner-Centered Schools in Every State with Sonn Sam
Welcome to a bonus edition of Learning Unboxed, where we will spend two weeks revisiting innovative case studies of student-centered learning. We know that the one-size-fits-all sit-and-get strategy is not the most effective for students. Join us in moving to a system that deeply values the individual. Tune in to get inspired and walk away with tools ready to champion student-centered environments in your own community.There’s a good chance your state’s policies actually allow for more innovative and student-centered learning than you think. Sonn Sam is the National Director of Partnerships at Big Picture Learning and he’s our guest on the show today. He explains how they have been able to create more space for innovative student-centered learning over the last 30 years.Big Picture Learning’s mission is to activate the potential of schools, systems, and education through student-driven, real-world learning with a vision that all students live lives of their own design, nurtured by supportive mentors, meaningful relationships, and equal opportunities to succeed. Big Picture Learning now has 111 schools in the US and 150 internationally.Sonn explains Big Picture Learning’s emphasis on locally-infused school design, working through everyday obstacles to community-based learning like transportation issues, and helping teachers become well-connected generalists.If you’re looking for practical ways you can make student-centered learning possible in your area, be sure to listen to this episode.To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:The difference between a school model and a school designWhat it means to say “the student is the curriculum” Why it’s important for teachers to be well-connected generalistsResources:Learn more at BigPicture.orgRead Education Reimagined’s research, “Progress and Possibilities to Support Learner-Centered Education and Ecosystem Design.” BPL Guided ExperienceGetting to Know BPL: a document that can help explain who BPL is, what they value, and how they do their work for and with young people. BPL OARIAProduced by NOVA

May 19, 2025 • 34min
BONUS. Institute for Self Directed Learning with Tyler Thigpen
Welcome to a bonus edition of Learning Unboxed, where we will spend two weeks revisiting innovative case studies of student-centered learning. We know that the one-size-fits-all sit-and-get strategy is not the most effective for students. Join us in moving to a system that deeply values the individual. Tune in to get inspired and walk away with tools ready to champion student-centered environments in your own community.Dr. Tyler Thigpen co-founded The Forest School in Fayetteville, GA, and from there he also co-founded the Institute for Self Directed Learning. Tyler is our guest on the show today and shares with us key practices he has researched and used to nurture student-led environments.We talk about the concept of mastery and how to measure it with single-point rubrics, with an emphasis on longitudinal growth. We discuss the role exhibitions and practicals play in developing student responsibility. We also get into how to create space for students to forge their character and learn how to manage conflict.The Forest School is a model for all of us interested in education innovation, and its Institute for Self Directed Learning is a resource to help us achieve it. To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:How Tyler implements self directed learning at the micro school he co-founded, The Forest School.The importance of measuring longitudinal growth in a mastery-based environment.How to create an environment where kids take responsibility for their learning.Resources:Learn more at the Institute for Self Directed LearningFor more free online resources, check out Transcend Read: “The Playbook for Self Directed Learning”Produced by NOVA

May 12, 2025 • 35min
275. Playful Learning with Dr. Diane Jackson Schnoor
We’re diving into the joy and purpose of play in this episode of Learning Unboxed with Dr. Diane Jackson Schnoor, director of Dr. Diane’s Adventures of Learning. Diane brings a powerful message about the deep connections between literacy, creativity, and hands-on exploration—reminding us that learning through play isn’t just for preschoolers, it’s a critical tool for all ages.Diane shares vibrant, story-driven examples—like using “The Three Little Pigs” to explore everything from character sequencing to air pressure experiments—that show how play naturally builds literacy, science, and collaboration skills. She explains how thematic invitations to play create space for students to explore curiosity, make mistakes, and lead their own learning journeys. And it’s not just for little learners—she shares how even middle and high school students benefit from playful problem-solving that builds real-world skills and deeper engagement.Together, we explore how educators can start small, collaborate with colleagues, and reimagine lesson planning to infuse wonder back into learning. Whether it’s sinking pirate ships or building TikTok bios of architects, Diane reminds us that when we treat curiosity as a tool, we unlock creativity in both students and teachers alike.To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:How play supports literacy and cognitive developmentUsing picture books and STEAM challenges to drive inquiryThe power of story-based learning across all grade levelsPractical ways to bring play into middle and high school classroomsHow teachers can advocate for hands-on learning with administratorsThe policy shifts needed to support transdisciplinary educationResources:Dr. Diane’s Adventures of Learning PodcastRead: Sheepwrecked by Ashley BeloteRead: Dreaming Up by Christy HaleDark Skies InitiativeProduced by NOVA

May 5, 2025 • 34min
274. Innovative Urban Learning with Kalimah Fergus Ayele
What if your city was your classroom? In this episode of Learning Unboxed, we meet Kalimah Fergus Ayele, Head of the New York City campus of The Winchendon School, a high school program that reimagines education through experiential learning and citywide engagement.Kalimah shares the origins of this innovative school model and the intentional design behind its iLab and CoLab programs. These programs push students beyond the walls of the classroom and into the streets, museums, pantries, and research centers of New York City. It’s all about cultivating agency, belonging, and real-world problem-solving—equipping students not just with knowledge, but with purpose.From the power of design thinking to the importance of mindset shifts and community healing, Kalimah reflects on her global teaching experiences and how they shaped her leadership. As she guides students toward a future where uncertainty is the norm, she’s helping them discover their voice, creativity, and capacity to lead right now—not someday.To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:The city-as-classroom model at The Winchendon School NYCHow real-world learning cultivates student agency and belongingThe role of design thinking in education transformationWhy mindset shifts matter more than strategiesResponding to student needs in times of social and political changeCreating future-ready learners through curiosity and choiceResources:The Winchendon SchoolBooks by Ruha Benjamin:Race After TechnologyViral JusticeNAIS People of Color Conference (PoCC)The Winchendon School NYC Instagram: @winchendon_in_the_cityProduced by NOVA

Apr 28, 2025 • 30min
273. Summer Learning Through Outdoor Joy with Lisa Gitelson
In this episode of Learning Unboxed, we explore the powerful intersection of summer camp and education with Lisa Gitelson, CEO of the Fresh Air Fund. With over 148 years of impact, the Fresh Air Fund offers low-income youth from New York City transformative summer experiences—think swimming, hiking, stargazing, and leadership training—all designed to develop independence, confidence, and community connection.Lisa shares how the Fresh Air Fund continuously evolves its programming through strategic planning, curriculum themes tied to outdoor learning, and feedback from youth, alumni, and families. We discuss the barriers many families face in accessing outdoor experiences and how the organization builds trust through transparency, outreach, and storytelling—like youth-produced podcasts.We also talk about how these immersive, joyful experiences shape not just campers but future leaders. Lisa highlights the ripple effects of camp, from mentoring and year-round programming to encouraging curiosity and questions in every learning environment. Join us as we imagine how summer camps can inspire schools to embrace joy, agency, and community.To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:The Fresh Air Fund’s 148-year legacy of empowering NYC youthWhy outdoor learning fosters leadership, confidence, and curiosityTackling cultural and logistical barriers to accessYear-round programming that builds on summer experiencesHow summer camp values can inform classroom teachingResources:Learn more at The Fresh Air FundFollow Lisa on X (formerly Twitter): @LisaGitelsonConnect with Lisa on LinkedInFollow The Fresh Air Fund on Instagram: @thefreshairfundProduced by NOVA

Apr 21, 2025 • 31min
272. Reimagining EdTech and Data with Chris Hull
In this episode of Learning Unboxed, we dive into the transformative power of data in education with Chris Hull, former educator and co-founder of Otus. Otus is a K-12 assessment and data insights platform designed to centralize the many fragmented tools educators use and provide actionable data to drive student success. Chris brings a deep understanding of the classroom and a passion for leveraging technology to empower teachers, students, and families.We talk about the overwhelming nature of data in schools today and how Otus helps educators move from being "data rich but information poor" to truly data-informed. Chris explains how the platform supports intentional instruction, fosters collaboration across stakeholders, and simplifies the daily workflow through AI-powered insights. Instead of adding more to teachers' plates, Otus is designed to save time and enhance student outcomes.From the value of asking better questions to the magic of those “aha” moments in the classroom, this conversation offers practical insight into using data not just as numbers on a page, but as a tool for deeper connection and more effective teaching. If you've ever felt lost in the sea of edtech tools or unsure how to make data work for you, this episode is for you.To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:How Otus simplifies and centralizes educational data for teachersThe importance of data literacy and asking better questionsHow AI assists in interpreting student performanceTurning instinctual insights into actionable strategiesReducing teacher workload while increasing impactResources:Learn more about OtusConnect with Chris on LinkedInProduced by NOVA

Apr 14, 2025 • 33min
271. Transforming Education Through Teaming with Nick Salmon, Mar Cano Mesa, and Erin O’Reilly
In this episode of Learning Unboxed, we're joined by Nick Salmon, Mar Cano Mesa, and Erin O’Reilly, co-authors of TeamEd, a transformative guide to collaboration in education. Together, they share the story behind their international partnership and their deeply rooted belief that teaming—at every level of the education ecosystem—is essential to building a more learner-centered, sustainable, and joyful system.We dig into what makes a true team (not just a group), how ecosystem thinking influences team development, and how teacher preparation programs can intentionally plant the seeds of collaboration. Erin shares how she integrates team-based principles into her work training future educators, while Mar explores how visiting schools like Green School Bali and High Tech High shaped her approach. Nick reminds us that education needs diverse voices—especially non-traditional ones—and that the power of team teaching can unlock possibilities we never imagined.Tune in to hear how this trio models the very work they advocate for—blending ideas, supporting one another’s growth, and pushing education toward a more equitable, connected, and empowered future.To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:Why true collaboration means more than just working in groupsThe role of ecosystems in transforming educationPractical strategies for building trust and psychological safety in teamsHow teacher prep programs can use teaming to support retentionThe power of including non-traditional voices in educationUsing teaming as a model for both staff and studentsResources:Read TeamEdGreen School Bali – A model of holistic, sustainability-focused educationHigh Tech HighConnect with Nick on LinkedInConnect with Mar Cano on LinkedInConnect with Erin on LinkedInProduced by NOVA

Apr 7, 2025 • 30min
270. Revolutionizing Math Education with Dr. Aditya Nagrath
Math anxiety holds many students back, but what if we could change the way they experience mathematics? In this episode of Learning Unboxed, we sit down with Dr. Aditya Nagrath, founder of Elephant Learning Mathematics Academy, to explore how his innovative approach helps students master years of math in just a few months—using only 10 minutes a day, three days a week.Dr. Nagrath shares the science behind teaching math as a language, explaining why early exposure to mathematical thinking strengthens all forms of literacy. He also dives into the root causes of math anxiety, how belief systems shape student confidence, and why meeting children at their level of understanding is critical for success. His research-backed methodology focuses on experiential learning, ensuring students grasp math concepts rather than just memorizing formulas.With a mission to transform math education, Elephant Learning is now expanding into public schools, making these powerful tools accessible to more students. Join us as we discuss how we can change the narrative around math, boost confidence, and ensure every child has the foundation they need to thrive in a world that’s becoming increasingly mathematical.To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:How math anxiety develops and how to overcome itWhy learning math early enhances overall literacyThe power of experiential learning in math educationHow Elephant Learning personalizes math instruction in just 10 minutes a dayThe importance of belief and confidence in student successBringing research-backed math tools into public educationResources:Learn more: Elephant Learning Mathematics AcademyRead: Treating Mathematics Anxiety by Dr. Aditya NagrathProduced by NOVA

Mar 31, 2025 • 33min
269. AI as a Positive Disruptor in Education with Jose Moreno
In this discussion, Jose Moreno, Founder and CEO of Neulight and former Netflix employee, shares his passion for using AI to transform education. He dives into how IntelliTier can personalize student support, making it easier for educators to track progress. Jose also addresses the balancing act of AI ethics, emphasizing data security and minimizing bias. He draws parallels between AI today and past tech revolutions, advocating for thoughtful adoption to create equitable learning environments. Tune in to discover the future of education with AI!

Mar 24, 2025 • 30min
268. Jazz Lab & STEM with Stephanie Matthews
In this episode of Learning Unboxed, we explore the transformative power of jazz in education with Stephanie Matthews, Executive Director of A Tribe for Jazz. Stephanie has pioneered Jazz Lab, an innovative pilot program that integrates jazz with STEM education to foster creativity, collaboration, and emotional wellness in students. Backed by the Battelle Central Ohio STEM Grant, Jazz Lab provides an interactive, interdisciplinary learning experience where kids build 3D-printed instruments, explore the physics of sound, and even engage in virtual reality music-making.Stephanie shares how jazz, with its improvisational nature, can be a powerful tool for problem-solving, innovation, and community building. By merging music with science and technology, Jazz Lab helps students develop essential 21st-century skills, from resilience to collaboration. More than just a music program, Jazz Lab is about expanding possibilities—whether through hands-on exploration of sound, engaging with professional musicians, or discovering new career paths in STEM and the arts.Join us as we discuss the impact of Jazz Lab and the vision for its future, including expanding beyond Ohio and developing a model that could be replicated nationwide. Stephanie’s work is a testament to the incredible ways we can rethink education and create engaging, meaningful learning experiences for all students.To learn more, visit: pastfoundation.orgWe unbox:How Jazz Lab bridges the gap between music and STEM educationThe power of improvisation in fostering creativity, collaboration, and problem-solvingWhy jazz is more than music—it’s a tool for emotional wellness and social connectionHow hands-on experiences like 3D-printed instruments and VR music-making engage students in learningThe long-term vision for Jazz Lab and its potential to reshape traditional education modelsResources:A Tribe for Jazz: atribeforjazz.orgFollow A Tribe for Jazz on Instagram: @atribeforjazz_COSI (Center of Science and Industry): cosi.orgProduced by NOVA


