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Just a quick note at the beginning of this episode to let you know that today’s content is not safe for young children. We cover some heavy topics and I’m certain a few cuss words survived the final edit. I also wanted to let you know we cover the topic of abuse and understand this could be triggering for some listeners. Please take care while listening. In early June, Shiny Happy People: Duggar Family Secrets debuted on Amazon Prime. It reached more viewers in its first 9 days than any Amazon docuseries. Journalist Selome Hailu reported in an article for Variety, that “measured over the same nine-day period, the series has been responsible for the acquisition of more new Prime Video costumers than any other Amazon docuseries. While many have been drawn to watch this docuseries because of interest in the Duggar family, once they turn in, they get an education on an organization the Duggars have been closely tied to. And that organization was founded and led for many years by a man we now know to have been credibly accused of the sexual assault of multiple young women among other abusive behaviors. On today’s episode I’ll share some of the history of that organization and some stories from those who participated in one way or another in this community.   JJ Merrick and Kristina Kallman join Amy to share about their experiences with the IBLP and ATIA world. Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith  https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz https://twitter.com/faithuntangled https://twitter.com/amyfritz Host/Creator: Amy Fritz Producers: Michele Pjanic Phil and Susan Perdue Pam Forsythe Chelle Taylor

Dave Ramsey's Legal Nightmare: Time Share Exit Team Class-Action Lawsuit Deep Dive with Melissa Hogan Dave Ramsey is facing a class action lawsuit from invested fans who trusted his endorsement of Timeshare Exit Team, a company accused of committing fraud. The case raises questions about what Ramsey knew or should have known, and whether he did due diligence before endorsing the company. This episode covers: The controversial partnership between Ramsey Solutions and Timeshare Exit Team. The legal implications surrounding the class-action lawsuit filed against Dave Ramsey. The importance of transparency and thorough evaluation in business interactions. The power of class-action lawsuits in promoting a responsible corporate culture.   My special guest is Amy Fritz, Melissa Hogan Melissa Hogan is an accomplished lawyer with a career spanning over two decades. Her extensive experience has given her a deep understanding of the legal world, which she shares with listeners on the Untangled Faith podcast. Host Amy Fritz invites Melissa to discuss the recent class-action lawsuit against Dave Ramsey. Melissa simplifies the complex legal issues surrounding the case, helping listeners to better understand its implications. The key moments in this episode are: How the Lawsuit was Discovered Allegations Against Timeshare Exit Team Endorsed Local Provider Program Expectations for Ramsey's Response Class Action Lawsuit Timeline  Resources: Melissa Hogan's article on the Time Share Exit Team Class Action Lawsuit against Dave Ramsey and Ramsey Solutions. https://melissajhogan.medium.com/breaking-dave-ramsey-sued-by-former-fans-in-class-action-lawsuit-3b92d3cb60d8   Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/02/22/71-in-the-dark-spiritual-and-ethical-implications-of-ramsey-solutions-updated-employee-agreement/ https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/07/20/48-former-ramsey-solutions-employees-reflect-on-their-experience-with-ramsey-meetings/ Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith  https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz https://twitter.com/faithuntangled https://twitter.com/amyfritz Host/Creator: Amy Fritz Producers: Michele Pjanic Phil and Susan Perdue Pam Forsythe Chelle Taylor

Neil Schori joins Amy Fritz to talk about how to recognize when someone is in an abusive relationship or you're interacting with an abuser. This is a crucial conversation for pastors and ministry leaders and anyone who cares about being a safe refuge for those who have been harmed.  Document The Abuse   Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com   Amy and Neil talked about Signs of unhealthy and unsafe relationships and the importance of supporting affected individuals. The impact of financial control and the normalization of "permission language" in relationships. The tragic case of Stacy Peterson and what it teaches us about recognizing abuse. How misconceptions about abuse, particularly emotional and psychological abuse, persist in both public and faith communities. The religious perspectives on divorce, particularly in the context of abuse. The proper counseling approach when dealing with abuse, warning against couples counseling in abuse cases. Featured Guest Neil Schori   Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Document The Abuse   Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media.   Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict   Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/05/11/43-what-weve-gotten-wrong-about-divorce-guest-gretchen-baskerville/  

Have you been told to (or seen others) push through personal pain and trauma while engaging in advocacy for the health of the Church without being given the tools to manage your (or their) own emotional wellness? Are you often feeling overwhelmed and exhausted? Meet Lori Anne Thompson: a compassionate survivor, storyteller, and student. Lori Anne is a devoted wife, mother, and enthusiastic cook who loves to share her passion for sustainable rhythms and healing for those who have survived trauma. Lori Anne and Amy talk through these topics in this episode of the Untangled Faith podcast:   Who is Lori Anne Thompson? The Three Phases of Recovery How trauma can't be your whole life Chronic activation Finding sustainable ways to give back Red flags to look for Becoming what we're against The power of saying no.   If you want to submit a question for the 2nd-anniversary episode, you can submit a question here: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/anniversary   Links: Victim Impact Statement from Lori Anne Thompson regarding Ravi Zacharias:  https://loriannethompson.com/2021/02/08/lori-anne-thompson-victim-impact-statement/ https://loriannethompson.com https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/podcasts/bulletin/cpac-trump-transgenderism-oscars.html Truth & Repair: How Trauma Survivors Envision Justice by Judith Herman: https://amzn.to/3mxzx0W Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/01/25/67-the-secret-to-being-courageous-guest-kj-ramsey/ https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/09/14/55-a-curious-faith-guest-lore-wilbert/ Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith  https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz https://twitter.com/faithuntangled https://twitter.com/amyfritz Host/Creator: Amy Fritz Producers: Michele Pjanic Phil and Susan Perdue Pam Forsythe Chelle Taylor

Pete Singer, executive director of GRACE, shares about grooming, hidden trauma, being "overly" sensitive to abuse, and the importance of third-party investigations. “Perpetrators put a lot of effort into being the kind of person who would never do that.” "Being more sensitive may be the product of having more knowledge."   Pete Singer is the Executive Director of GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment and an expert on third-party investigations, trauma, and trauma-informed practice.   GRACE: Godly Response to Abuse in the Christian Environment is a nonprofit organization that specializes in safeguarding initiatives to guard against church abuse, sexual abuse in the church.   In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. What misconceptions about perpetrators of abuse do people have, and how can we ensure we are more informed? 2. How does trauma-informed practice apply in churches, and why is it important? 3. How can churches protect possible victims and be transparent and trustworthy in their response to allegations of misconduct? Links: https://netgrace.org SAMHSA’s Six Principles of Trauma-Informed Care – Post-Secondary Peer Support Training Curriculum (opentextbc.ca) Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/11/03/20-our-ramsey-story-part-4-the-got-your-six-meeting-1-of-2-episodes/ https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/11/03/21-our-ramsey-story-part-5-the-got-your-six-meeting-2-of-2-episodes/ Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith  https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz https://twitter.com/faithuntangled https://twitter.com/amyfritz Host/Creator: Amy Fritz Producers: Michele Pjanic Phil and Susan Perdue Pam Forsythe Chelle Taylor

Here's why you should reconsider a Ramsey Solutions job. "If telling the truth is risking the business, you've got a truth problem, not a business problem."- Melissa J. Hogan Melissa Hogan is an attorney and fan favorite of the Untangled Faith Podcast. She joins Amy Fritz to discuss the implications of new requirements for employees of Ramsey Solutions, and to shine a light on the ethical and spiritual issues surrounding the policies. Here's what I cover with Melissa Hogan in this episode: Unethical, spiritual and practical issues surrounding a Christian company's new policies. Fear tactics and how they are used to control and manage an image, instead of promoting truth and Jesus. Potential legal challenges and rights surrounding non-disclosure agreements, works-for-hire and non-solicitation clauses, and forced arbitration. Dave Ramsey's unhealthy work environment has implications for employee rights.  Episode transcript: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/transcription-3.docx-1.pdf Links: Ramsey Solutions Reviews: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Ramsey-Solutions-Reviews-E355423.htm https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/board-rules-that-employers-may-not-offer-severance-agreements-requiring https://melissajhogan.medium.com/dear-churches-stop-using-ndas-and-other-silencing-strategies-b45b7c8d297c https://danwatt.org/2022/09/comparing-the-non-disparagements-of-a-christian-workplace/ https://religionnews.com/2022/09/08/ndas-are-a-tool-for-toxic-church-cultures/ Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/08/31/54-silencing-techniques-used-by-churches-and-faith-organizations/ https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/07/20/47-impression-management-ramsey-solutions-guest-dr-wade-mullen/ https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/07/20/48-former-ramsey-solutions-employees-reflect-on-their-experience-with-ramsey-meetings/ https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/05/04/42-boz-tchividjian-answers-your-questions-on-g-r-a-c-e-caring-well-churchtoo-ndas/ Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith  https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz https://twitter.com/faithuntangled https://twitter.com/amyfritz Host/Creator: Amy Fritz Producers: Michele Pjanic Phil and Susan Perdue Pam Forsythe Chelle Taylor

What happened when Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding courageously revealed the truth about abuse of power in the church? Lori Adams-Brown shares more about speaking on the record with Julie Roys about her experience with Pastor Andy Wood, successor to Rick Warren at Saddleback Church. Lori Harding shares about speaking on the record with Julie Roys about her experience with Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church. "We do what we can with what we know, and that is a courageous act of faith." -Lori Adams-Brown Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding are two courageous women who have gone on the record with a journalist to share their experiences with abusive and unhealthy leaders in the church. They both have a deep love for Jesus and a desire to bring justice and healing to those who have been hurt. Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding found the courage to speak out despite the personal risk. In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. What was it like to wait for their stories to be shared? 2. What they would have done differently. 3. Advice to those considering speaking out. Links: Lori Harding's story- https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-1/ https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-2/   Lori Adams-Brown story- https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/   Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/02/08/69going-on-the-record-with-lori-adams-brown-lori-harding-trust-trauma-telling-your-story/ https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/15/26-what-about-bob-an-interview-with-religion-journalist-bob-smietana/ Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith  https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz https://twitter.com/faithuntangled https://twitter.com/amyfritz   Host/Creator: Amy Fritz Producers: Michele Pjanic Phil and Susan Perdue Pam Forsythe Chelle Taylor  

"We did this out of love to protect sheep. Exposing the darkness to the light is how it happens." - Lori Adams-Brown Some of you have a story to tell that you’ve never told anyone. And some of you are wondering if that story should find it’s way to a journalist. Where would you go? How does that even work? What all goes into the process and what do you need to know to make it out on the other side? Today I’m joined by two friends who answer those questions as we pull back the curtain to show you what it’s like to go on the record for a journalist. Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding are two courageous women who have gone on the record with journalist Julie Roys to share their stories of abuse in the church. In this episode: 1. How they decided to go public with their story of abuse. What was the process like? What were their concerns? How did they navigate the process? 2. The role of investigative journalism in exposing the darkness and restoring the church: How did they choose a reporter? What were the expectations? What was the interview process like? 3. The consequences of speaking out: How did they prepare for the backlash? What were some of the criticisms they faced? Links: Lori Harding's story- https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-1/ https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-2/ Lori Adams-Brown story- https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/ https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/ Related Episodes: https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/15/26-what-about-bob-an-interview-with-religion-journalist-bob-smietana/ Support the show: Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Where you can find me: Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg https://untangledfaithpodcast.com https://instagram.com/untangledfaith  https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz https://twitter.com/faithuntangled https://twitter.com/amyfritz Host/Creator: Amy Fritz Producers: Michele Pjanic Phil and Susan Perdue Pam Forsythe Chelle Taylor

Shannan Martin drops by the Untangled Faith podcast to talk with Amy Fritz about learning how to be a good neighbor. Amy shares how she was afraid Shannan might cause her to get in trouble with Amy's husband's former employer, Dave Ramsey.   Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com   Featured Guest Shannan Martin   Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Start With Hello https://amzn.to/403XSva   Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media.   Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict   Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky  

Bob Smietana swings by the Untangled Faith podcast to talk to Amy about his new book, Reorganized Religion, how he was able to land an interview with Beth Moore that broke the news that she was no longer in the SBC, and his hope for the future of religion.   Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com   In this episode Issues facing modern churches "Only a fool fights in a burning house." The Beth Moore interview The need for organized religion   Featured Guest Bob Smietana, Religion Journalist   Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Reorganized Religion https://amzn.to/3ZXcwEw   Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media.   Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict   Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky