
Untangled Faith
A podcast for anyone who has found themself disillusioned or discouraged in their faith journey and who wants to hold on to their faith while untangling it from all that is not good or true.
Latest episodes

Mar 18, 2025 • 1h 1min
132: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor. Guest: Caleb Campbell
Caleb Campbell joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to discuss his journey from pastoring to becoming an author, and how to engage lovingly with Christian nationalists. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Explore Caleb Campbell's background and transformation from a neo-Nazi skinhead to a church pastor. Discover the origins and motivations behind Caleb's book on Christian nationalism. Reflect on the challenges pastors face in navigating cultural and political divides, particularly within the past decade. Reframe the approach to Christian nationalism as a mission field rather than an enemy to combat. Consider practical steps for engaging in meaningful, compassionate conversations with those holding nationalist views. Featured Guest Caleb Campbell https://www.disarmingleviathan.com Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor https://amzn.to/4hEwCdi The Quiet Damage: QAnon and the Destruction of the American Family https://amzn.to/4hEwCdi Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Mar 11, 2025 • 52min
131: Exploring Women's Historical Roles in Ministry. Guest: Dr. Beth Allison Barr
Dr. Beth Allison Barr joins Amy Fritz to talk about the how women's roles in church ministry have changed throughout history. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we: Dive into the origins and unexpected reactions to Barr's previous work, "The Making of Biblical Womanhood." Explore how Barr's experiences as both a historian and pastor's wife influenced her latest work. Unpack the historical context of ordination and the roles women played in early church leadership. Reveal how cultural forces and economics, rather than biblical mandates, have historically dictated views on women's roles. Discuss the Southern Baptist Convention's shifting stance on women's ordination in response to social and cultural changes. Shine a light on current issues within the SBC, including the connection between power dynamics and handling of abuse cases. Featured Guest Dr. Beth Allison Barr https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817 Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling- get 10% off here: BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Beth's book: https://bakerbookhouse.com/products/598817 Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Mar 4, 2025 • 57min
130: Engaging Cultural Issues Through Faith: A Conversation with Marty Duren
Marty Duren joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast to explore the intersections of faith, politics, and societal issues. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode Amy and Marty: Talk about Marty's journey away from the Moral Majority Discuss the impact of Christian Nationalism and how that's different than patriotism Consider how proximity changes how we understand different issues. Talk about why Marty hates the word "impactful"! Featured Guest Mary Duren Kingdom in the Midst - On Earth as It is in Heaven Marty on Bluesky: Marty Duren (@martyduren.bsky.social) — Bluesky Marty on Facebook: Facebook Resources mentioned Faithful Counseling- get 10% off here: BetterHelp - Get Started & Sign-Up Today Marty's Book, The Disparate Ones https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-disparate-ones-essays-on-being-in-the-world-but-not-of-the-world/ae8b8e3c312ea6ff?ean=9781736282182&next=t&next=t Blood Brothers https://amzn.to/41qTiYq The Hundred Years' War on Palestine https://amzn.to/4i3G9fa Whose Promised Land https://amzn.to/43lCULB A Stranger In the Land https://amzn.to/43lCULB Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Feb 25, 2025 • 52min
129: Searching For Safety After Abuse and Harm. Guest: Melissa J. Hogan
Melissa J. Hogan joins Amy to talk about a talk she gave at the Restore conference in Feb 2025. What does it look like to search for safety after abuse? Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com What we talk about: Finding safe community Establishing stability The cocoon stage Reckoning with imperfect communities The risk of truly living Featured Guest Melissa J. Hogan (1) Res Ipsa with Melissa J. Hogan | Substack Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Feb 11, 2025 • 47min
128: Understanding Conspiracy Theories. Guest: Dr. Karen Swallow Prior
Dr. Karen Swallow Prior joins Amy Fritz for a conversation about conspiracy theories and what it looks like to be responsible consumers of information. Subscribe to my newsletter (paid and unpaid options available to support the show): https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about What's a conspiracy theory? What's the appeal of conspiracy theories? How literature and media we consume forms our imaginations Featured Guest Dr. Karen Swallow Prior https://karenswallowprior.com Resources mentioned Holy Post Video about conspiracy theories: Why Do We Believe Conspiracy Theories? Dr. Francis Collins on The Bulletin https://www.christianitytoday.com/podcasts/the-bulletin/one-on-one-with-francis-collins I Cheerfully Refuse https://amzn.to/4jIoRFw The Evangelical Imagination https://amzn.to/411X9fG Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Feb 4, 2025 • 1h 4min
127: False Redemption: It's Not A Marriage Issue Guest- Melissa J. Hogan
Attorney and Institutional Response Specialist Melissa J. Hogan joins Amy Fritz on the Untangled Faith podcast for a candid discussion about how communities and leaders should respond when there is a breakdown of trust in a marriage, especially when issues of abuse or infidelity are involved. What happens when we diagnose an abuse issue as a marriage issue? Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we talk about What communities, leaders, and friends should consider when addressing trust breakdowns in marriages. Why the first instinct to restore the marriage might be harmful. Common myths around quick-fixes such as short-term therapies and intensives. Practical steps and resources for leaders. Featured Guest Melissa J. Hogan https://melissajhogan.substack.com Resources mentioned GRACE https://www.netgrace.org Dr. Diane Langberg https://www.dianelangeberg.com Caring Well Conference 2019 ERLC National Conference - Caring Well on Vimeo Gretchen Baskerville About Me | Life-Saving Divorce Leslie Vernick Home - Leslie Vernick Natalie Hoffman Flying Free Support for Women in Abusive Relationships Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Jan 28, 2025 • 49min
126: Revisiting Left Behind with Jerry Dugan
How well does the 1995 hit book, Left Behind hold up? Amy Fritz is joined by author and podcaster, Jerry Dugan to talk about this cult classic. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode we'll cover The origin story of Left Behind Left Behind and end times speculation Who is the anti-Christ? The impact the book had on evangelical Christians in the US Failed end-times predictions Featured Guest Jerry Dugan Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Revelation For The Rest of Us Left Behind Much Ado About Nothing Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Jan 21, 2025 • 60min
125: Meet the "Sharon Says So" of the PCA denomination. Guest: Lynna Sutherland
Lynna Sutherland, whom Amy refers to as the "Sharon McMahon of the PCA" stops by the Untangled Faith podcast to talk about her work in her ministry Advocacy From the Presbyterian Pew Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Amy and Lynna talk about What inspired Lynna Sutherland to start Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew Complexity of the PCA How understanding the origin of the PCA helps Lynna in her work Current issues: DASA Advice for men in leadership in the denomination Advice for women Featured Guest: Lynna Sutherland Presbyterian Pew Resources mentioned Advocacy from the Presbyterian Pew: Presbyterian Pew Dr. Langberg on Russell Moore podcast Harm, Trauma, and Church Abuse - Christianity Today Darby Strickland Home | Darby Strickland Ian Sears case, Nashville Presbytery Nashville pastor ousted: A landmark in PCA abuse reformMee Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Jan 14, 2025 • 28min
124: 4 Year Anniversary of Going on The Record About Ramsey Solutions
Amy Fritz reflects on the 4 year anniversary of the Religion News Service article Is Dave Ramsey's Company the Best Place to Work? Say No and You're Out. Heather Fulk joins Amy to talk about going on the record for that article. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com In this episode you'll find Origin of the RNS article Heather Fulk shares what it's like to go decide to go on the record. Amy reflects on the Ramsey response and the main RNS article Featured Guest Heather Fulk Resources mentioned Ramsey Solutions, Dave Ramsey Episodes | Untangled Faith Dave Ramsey, Christian person finance guru, defies COVID-19 to keep staff at desks. Is Dave Ramsey’s empire the ‘best place to work in America’? Say no and you’re out. Full Ramsey Solutions Response. Exclusive: Audio Shows Dave Ramsey’s Board Knowingly Kept Adulterous Personality on Staff. At Dave Ramsey’s company, some sex outside marriage was OK, court documents show Dave Ramsey Sued for $150 Million By Former Fans Who Followed His Time Share Exit Advice Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky

Dec 31, 2024 • 16min
123: Year in Review: Favorite Reads, Podcast Moments, and Insights from 2024
Amy Fritz reflects on lessons learned in 2024, favorite books, and what's coming next. Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com Hire Amy to help you with your podcast. Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Episode Highlights Most downloaded episode of 2024: The episode where Amy re-recorded her part of the conversation by herself Favorite Books Lessons Learned What's Next! Resources mentioned This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled Episode 111:How to Know Who to Trust in the Religion World Episode 113 with Chuck DeGroat Othered by Jenai Auman https://amzn.to/40gPCsU Lessons From the COVID War https://amzn.to/49Z22ZM My, Myself and Bob https://amzn.to/4a0okdM Final Accounting https://amzn.to/4gCsieY You Could Make This Place Beautiful https://amzn.to/4gxnec3 The Next Right Thing Guided Journal https://amzn.to/4iYPKow Tell Your Friends! If you loved this episode, leave us a review on your favorite podcast app and share it with a friend. Tag us if you share it on social media. Follow Untangled Faith wherever you listen to podcasts Follow on Apple podcasts Subscribe on YouTube Follow on Spotify Follow on Podcast Addict Want to share your thoughts with us or talk about partnering with the show? Email: amy@untangledfaithpodcast.com Follow me on Instagram Follow me on Threads Follow me on BlueSky