But We Loved

Andy Tobias, a prominent financial expert and author of "The Best Little Boy in the World," discusses his personal journey navigating gay identity in a conservative environment. He shares insights on the loneliness and secrecy faced during his formative years, the challenges of coming out, and the importance of acceptance. The conversation touches on love and loss during the AIDS crisis, as well as the power of chosen family in combating isolation. Tobias also reflects on his advocacy work, emphasizing visibility and community over societal expectations.

Mark S. King, author of "My Fabulous Disease," shares his powerful journey through crystal meth addiction and recovery. He discusses the alarming prevalence of crystal meth among gay men and connects it to feelings of isolation and identity struggles. Mark reflects on the duality of addiction, revealing how euphoria often masks deeper emotional turmoil. He also confronts the stigma surrounding addiction within the community and highlights the critical role of support systems in the journey toward sobriety and self-acceptance.

Tom Viola stepped down in December 2024, after leading Broadway Cares/Equity Fights AIDS for 36 years. His fundraising has helped save countless lives. He reminisces on what it was like to live through the grief and trauma of the AIDS crisis — and how he coped.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Peter Staley, a legendary AIDS activist and co-founder of ACT UP, shares his powerful insights on the AIDS crisis. He discusses the historical impact on the LGBTQ+ community, highlighting both struggles and resilience. Staley reflects on personal encounters with fear and despair, emphasizing emotional tolls faced by loved ones. The conversation also touches on the stigma during the early years and the relentless activism that demanded change. As the discussion weaves through joy and tragedy, it offers a poignant reminder of hope amid loss and the lasting legacy of the crisis.

Martha Shelley was one of the architects of the mid 20th century gay rights movement. She recalls the issues she fought against back then — and explains why they're so relevant today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ellen Broidy, a pioneering activist who organized the first Pride March in NYC in 1970, shares her inspiring journey. She reflects on the initial goals of the march and whether they have been achieved. Broidy discusses the grassroots origins of Pride, contrasting it with today's commercialized events. She dives into personal stories of resilience within the LGBTQ+ community and the importance of activism. The conversation also highlights the ongoing struggles for equality and the need for future generations to continue the fight for inclusivity.

Ken Lustbader is a historic preservationist and co-director of the NYC LGBT Historic Sites Project — which has identified nearly 500 historically queer sites in New York. He reflects on how becoming a historian was motivated by living through the loss of the AIDS Crisis.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this engaging conversation, Bill Glenn, author of "I Came Here Seeking a Person" and a gay spiritual leader, shares his transformative journey from seminarian to compassionate caregiver during the AIDS crisis. He candidly discusses the intricate dance of identity and faith within religious constraints. Bill reflects on overcoming addiction and emphasizes the power of community in times of grief. With a blend of heartfelt anecdotes and humor, he navigates the church's response to the crisis and the profound joy he found amidst sorrow.

Richard Burns has been a pillar of the American LGBTQ+ rights movement. He helped organize the first National March on Washington for Lesbian and Gay Rights in 1979. Later, he became the executive director of the NYC LGBTQ Center when New York was the epicenter for AIDS. Here, he discusses his role in history and why that history must be protected and passed down to young people.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Derek Hodel, former executive director of the New York Buyer's Club, shares gripping insights from his days smuggling life-saving AIDS medications in the 80s and 90s. He reflects on the systemic barriers faced by HIV/AIDS patients and the emotional weight of the epidemic on the LGBTQ+ community. Hodel's journey highlights the profound impact of grassroots activism, the personal transformations spurred by crisis, and the eventual breakthroughs in treatment. His powerful stories reveal resilience, compassion, and the urgent need for community support.