

The Data Exchange with Ben Lorica
Ben Lorica
A series of informal conversations with thought leaders, researchers, practitioners, and writers on a wide range of topics in technology, science, and of course big data, data science, artificial intelligence, and related applications. Anchored by Ben Lorica (@BigData), the Data Exchange also features a roundup of the most important stories from the worlds of data, machine learning and AI. Detailed show notes for each episode can be found on https://thedataexchange.media/ The Data Exchange podcast is a production of Gradient Flow [https://gradientflow.com/].
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Oct 25, 2025 • 30min
Stop Piloting, Start Shipping: A Playbook for Measurable AI
In this conversation, Evangelos Simoudis, a venture investor and partner at Synapse Partners with a deep focus on AI and robotics, shares crucial insights into why many enterprise AI pilots stall and the signs of an emerging AI bubble, including runaway valuations. He emphasizes the importance of cross-functional ownership for successful AI adoption and compares the current situation with the past internet boom. They also discuss U.S.-China competition in technology, noting China's advancements in robotics and semiconductors while maintaining a cautionary perspective on humanoid robots.

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Oct 23, 2025 • 28min
Databases for Machines, Not People
Luke Wroblewski, venture partner at Sutter Hill Ventures and expert on AI and application design, dives into the shift from traditional coding to an AI-driven approach in application development. He introduces the 'URL + model' paradigm, showcasing how AI agents can now replace conventional databases. Luke discusses the innovative AgentDB, designed specifically for AI agents, and shares examples of practical applications such as personal finance management and lead enrichment. He emphasizes the evolving roles of designers and developers in this new landscape.

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Oct 16, 2025 • 29min
When AI Agents Need to Talk: Inside the A2A Protocol
Heiko Hotz and Sokratis Kartakis, engineers at Google Cloud, delve into the Agent-to-Agent (A2A) protocol, a groundbreaking standard for AI collaboration across different frameworks. They discuss the importance of statefulness and security in multi-agent systems. With real-world examples, they illustrate how specialized agents communicate similarly to business cards. The duo also highlights the A2A’s potential to transform enterprise communication while addressing security concerns and developer ease of adoption, marking a significant step for future AI interactions.

Oct 9, 2025 • 48min
The Infrastructure for Production AI
Zhen Lu, CEO of Runpod, joins the podcast to discuss what it means to build an “AI-first” cloud, moving beyond the architectures of the Web 2.0 era. Subscribe to the Gradient Flow Newsletter 📩 https://gradientflow.substack.com/Subscribe: Apple · Spotify · Overcast · Pocket Casts · AntennaPod · Podcast Addict · Amazon · RSS.Detailed show notes - with links to many references - can be found on The Data Exchange web site.

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Oct 2, 2025 • 46min
How to Make Your Data Truly AI-Ready
Yoni Leitersdorf, the CEO and co-founder of Solid, dives into the world of AI and data access. He explains why simply using LLMs for text-to-SQL can lead to errors without adequate business context. Yoni highlights the importance of a semantic layer, which acts as a Rosetta Stone for AI, providing essential data quality and query context. He discusses how organizations can start building this layer, the role of human oversight in AI accuracy, and the challenges in creating cross-system semantic layers. Plus, he shares his vision for the future of AI in enterprise.

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Sep 27, 2025 • 30min
Beyond the Agent Hype
Evangelos Simoudis, a venture investor and AI strategy expert, dives into the disconnect between the hype surrounding AI agents and their actual enterprise application. He highlights critical issues like the reliance on shadow agents, the necessary foundations for effective AI, and the importance of clean data. Topics include the challenges faced in pilot programs and the need for reliable AI solutions. They also discuss the potential negative impact of new H-1B visa policies on tech startups, advocating for a balanced approach to immigration reform.

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Sep 25, 2025 • 39min
How to Build and Optimize AI Research Agents
Jakub Zavrel, CEO of Zeta Alpha and expert in AI research agents, dives into the evolution from traditional enterprise search to advanced deep research systems. He contrasts user expectations of fast web searches with the thorough, report-style answers of deep research. Zavrel discusses the importance of customization and quality optimization, and his innovative JEPA method for prompt evolution that outperforms traditional reinforcement learning. He also emphasizes the need for secure enterprise search as a foundation for powerful AI solutions.

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Sep 18, 2025 • 42min
Why Digital Work is the Perfect Training Ground for AI Agents
Andrew Rabinovich, CTO and Head of AI at Upwork, dives into the synergy between digital work marketplaces and AI agents. He reveals how Upwork's unique Reinforcement Learning from Experience (RLEF) methods optimize agent training. The discussion highlights the importance of user evaluation in shaping AI performance and explores innovative multimodal feedback systems. Rabinovich also envisions a future where human workers and AI coalesce seamlessly, providing expedited services and new opportunities for freelancers.

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Sep 11, 2025 • 38min
Beyond the Chatbot: What Actually Works in Enterprise AI
Jay Alammar, Director and Engineering Fellow at Cohere and co-author of "Hands-on Large Language Models," delves into enterprise AI. He discusses the challenges in understanding large language models and the adoption of GraphRag, emphasizing the gap between vendor enthusiasm and real-world application. Alammar highlights the balance between self-directed and collaborative learning in AI, and the critical role of evaluation processes for effective AI development. He also explores the potential of smaller AI models, showcasing their efficiency in addressing specific tasks.

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Sep 6, 2025 • 53min
Why China's Engineering Culture Gives Them an AI Advantage
Evangelos Simoudis, a venture capitalist at Synapse Partners and a corporate innovation blogger, dives deep into AI's complex landscape. He reveals the challenges of AI regulation in the U.S. compared to China's engineering-centric approach. The discussion highlights how China's governance fosters rapid technological advancement. They also explore issues around intellectual property in training data and the need for transparent regulations. Simoudis emphasizes the importance of balancing innovation with ethical considerations amid a rapidly evolving AI industry.


